Why do you believe in god?
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Ok then, prove there is no GOD. :classic:
I'm interested in seeing what U guys come up w/ since thousands of scientist and professionals haven't been able to prove that there is no GOD.
Non believers always make it into prove to me there is a GOD. Why should we?? Since U are the ones w/ the issue then prove there is no GOD. Use the same mediums U want us to use.
I'm interested in seeing what U guys come up w/ since thousands of scientist and professionals haven't been able to prove that there is no GOD.
Non believers always make it into prove to me there is a GOD. Why should we?? Since U are the ones w/ the issue then prove there is no GOD. Use the same mediums U want us to use.
@Roxy, its been said before and it will be said again......
The burdon of proof does not lay upon the Atheist, it lays upon the Theist!!!!
You speak of this faith, this belief of nothing.....well....
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, "mad cow" disease, and many others, but I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate."
-Richard Dawkins
The burdon of proof does not lay upon the Atheist, it lays upon the Theist!!!!
You speak of this faith, this belief of nothing.....well....
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, "mad cow" disease, and many others, but I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate."
-Richard Dawkins
Who says that the burden of proof lies with the believers? I'm not trying to make U believe what I believe. If I was I could see why. Just prove to me that there is no GOD. That's all I ask.
In fact, this thread is not about proving or disproving GOD, but somehow the believers always get the burden of proof laid on them. If U don't believe in GOD why even read these posts?
In fact, this thread is not about proving or disproving GOD, but somehow the believers always get the burden of proof laid on them. If U don't believe in GOD why even read these posts?
you have got to be kidding right. have you ever read anything of argumentation or the burden of proof, i would guess you have not. the person that claims that something is, must proof it. not the person who claims that something is not. how about this
there are dead people walking around that you can not see, touch or hear. if you dont agree then prove to me that its false....NO....you must prove this to be true
there are dead people walking around that you can not see, touch or hear. if you dont agree then prove to me that its false....NO....you must prove this to be true
@206 i glanced over your post i will get back to you later.
@tadou. you are the same person that people threaten to beat up. the same person that is ridiculed on almost every section of this website.
lets look at what you said.
YES I DO. A TREE IS KNOWN BY THE FRUIT THAT IT BEARS. YOU CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS. YOU WILL LOVE ONE AND HATE THE OTHER. HOW CAN YOU KEEP THE COMMADNMENTS OF YHWH IF YOU ARE GLORIFYING MURDER,FORNICATION,ADULTRY,CRIME, PHARMECIA (DRUGS) AND THE LUST OF MONEY??????? RAPPERS DO JUST THAT. HAVE VIDEOS WITH BISEXUAL ACTS,DRUGS,VIOLENCE AND LUST OF MONEY. WHEN ITS TIME TO ACCEPT THE AWARDS THE FIRST THING TO COME FROM THEM IS "I WOULD LIKE TO THANK GOD".
YOU MUST BE NEW TO THIS SIDE OF THE BOARD SO I WILL SHOW PITY ON YOUR IGNORENCE.
IN REGARDS TO GOVERNMENTS INVOLVEMENT WITH DRUGS AND THE PRODUCTION AND SHIPMENT OF DRUGS I WILL START YOU OFF SLOW.
FREEWAY RICK. STUDY THAT AND FIND INFO ON IT.
PLEASE ELABORATE ON YOUR STATEMENT. "ONE NATION UNDER GOD". I THOUGHT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON "GOD" AND HIS VALUES (IT WAS ACTUALLY FOUNDED BY OCCULTIST)?
I WILL ALLOW YOUR INSANTIY TO DOMINATE *YOU*..... BUT BE AWARE THAT IN THE FUTURE I WILL NOT BE SO KIND.
1.WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME SOMETHING ON THIS BOARD I DIRECT THEM TO BOOKS,LIBRARIES,AUTHORS,WEB SITES,NAMES,DATES,FACTS AND EVENTS. BEFORE THE SICCNESS WENT DOWN I PROBABLY MADE THE MOST INFORMATIVE POSTS IN REGARDS TO GLOBALISM. ONE THREAD LISTED CFR,TLC AND BILDERBERGER MEMBERS. WHICH COMPANIES THEY OWNED,HOW TO CONTACT THEM ETC ETC ETC. MUCH OF THE INFO IS GONE NOW. HOWEVER I CAN DIRECT YOU TO IT.
2.IN REGARDS TO ANY TEMPLE BEING BLOWN UP AND THE EXACT DATE . YOU SHOULD LOOK UP THE WORD ESCHATOLOGY, TITUS AND THE YEAR 70 A.D.
3.I AM NO MESSIAH. NEVER CLAIMED TO BE THE MESSIAH.
4.IN REGARDS TO THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE STUDY THE PROPHETIC CALANDER OF DANIEL AND THE DECREE OF THE BUILDING OF THE TEMPLE.
5.THE TEMPLE I AM SPEAKING OF IS THE TEMPLE THAT SOLOMON BUILT. THE TEMPLE THAT THE JEWS USED TO WORSHIP IN BUT WAS DESTROYED.
6. IN REGARDS TO WHAT PAGE ITS ON IN THE BIBLE I WILL GIVE YOU *ONE* OF MANY THAT EXPLAINS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT (IN REGARDS TO THE TEMPLE).
DANIEL 9.
1. WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT RELIGION?
2.DO CURSE WORDS WIN DEBATES? CAN YOU ARTICULATE YOURSELF WITHOUT THE FOUL LANGUAGE? OR WILL YOU (LIKE MANY OTHERS) SPEW HATEFUL WORDS?
3.YOU ARE TERRIBLE AT PRESENTING YOUR VIEWS (TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR POST BUDDY).
PHILOSOPHY IS REQUIRED OT WIN A DEBATE??????? LMAO!!!!!!!!!! THAT MY FRIEND IS AN ABSURD STATEMENT WHICH WOULD APPEAR MANIACAL TO *ANY* PERSON WITH A BRAIN. AT THIS POINT IN TIME ITS SAFE TO COME TO THE ASSESSMENT THAT YOU HAVE THE MENTAL CAPACITY OF A WORM.
YOU ARE DEVOID OF KNOWLEDGE AND IM SURE YOU WILL RESORT TO ANOTHER FEEBLE ATTEMPT TO RIDICULE...............
WHY NOT LOOK IT UP FOR YOURSELF? IF I AM TELLING YOU TO LOOK IT UP IM TELLING YOU SO YOU CAN COME TO YOUR OWN ASSESSMENT BASED ON THE KNOWLEDGE AND RESEARCH THAT YOU HAVE DONE. LETS SAY I SAID THE FOLLOWING:
ESCHATOLOGY IS THE STUDY OF WORDS,CHATTING AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD. .
AT FIRST GLANCE YOU WILL SEE THE WORD *CHAT*. THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE BELIEF IN GOD.
YOUR MIND WILL THINK THATS THE DEFINITION IF YOU
a) dont know the definition
b)are to lazy to look it up for yourself
SO YOU SEE I TELL PEOPLE TO LOOK IT UP SO THEY WONT BE MISLEAD. I HOPE YOU CAN GRASP WHAT I AM TRYING TO CONVEY TO YOUR WEAK (and lackluster) SOUL.
IF THATS WHAT YOU SAY. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING WITH? YOU CANT EVEN MAKE A POST WITHOUT REFRAING FROM FOUL LANGUAGE. CAN YOU PRESENT YOUR VIEWS WITHOUT YOUR CRUTCH?
INFERIOR TO WHO? YOU? IN WHAT ASPECT? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW (THIS WILL BE COMEDY)
HERESY
http://www.arn.org/docs/orpages/or161/161main.htm
@tadou. you are the same person that people threaten to beat up. the same person that is ridiculed on almost every section of this website.
lets look at what you said.
YES I DO. A TREE IS KNOWN BY THE FRUIT THAT IT BEARS. YOU CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS. YOU WILL LOVE ONE AND HATE THE OTHER. HOW CAN YOU KEEP THE COMMADNMENTS OF YHWH IF YOU ARE GLORIFYING MURDER,FORNICATION,ADULTRY,CRIME, PHARMECIA (DRUGS) AND THE LUST OF MONEY??????? RAPPERS DO JUST THAT. HAVE VIDEOS WITH BISEXUAL ACTS,DRUGS,VIOLENCE AND LUST OF MONEY. WHEN ITS TIME TO ACCEPT THE AWARDS THE FIRST THING TO COME FROM THEM IS "I WOULD LIKE TO THANK GOD".
YOU MUST BE NEW TO THIS SIDE OF THE BOARD SO I WILL SHOW PITY ON YOUR IGNORENCE.
IN REGARDS TO GOVERNMENTS INVOLVEMENT WITH DRUGS AND THE PRODUCTION AND SHIPMENT OF DRUGS I WILL START YOU OFF SLOW.
FREEWAY RICK. STUDY THAT AND FIND INFO ON IT.
PLEASE ELABORATE ON YOUR STATEMENT. "ONE NATION UNDER GOD". I THOUGHT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON "GOD" AND HIS VALUES (IT WAS ACTUALLY FOUNDED BY OCCULTIST)?
I WILL ALLOW YOUR INSANTIY TO DOMINATE *YOU*..... BUT BE AWARE THAT IN THE FUTURE I WILL NOT BE SO KIND.
1.WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME SOMETHING ON THIS BOARD I DIRECT THEM TO BOOKS,LIBRARIES,AUTHORS,WEB SITES,NAMES,DATES,FACTS AND EVENTS. BEFORE THE SICCNESS WENT DOWN I PROBABLY MADE THE MOST INFORMATIVE POSTS IN REGARDS TO GLOBALISM. ONE THREAD LISTED CFR,TLC AND BILDERBERGER MEMBERS. WHICH COMPANIES THEY OWNED,HOW TO CONTACT THEM ETC ETC ETC. MUCH OF THE INFO IS GONE NOW. HOWEVER I CAN DIRECT YOU TO IT.
2.IN REGARDS TO ANY TEMPLE BEING BLOWN UP AND THE EXACT DATE . YOU SHOULD LOOK UP THE WORD ESCHATOLOGY, TITUS AND THE YEAR 70 A.D.
3.I AM NO MESSIAH. NEVER CLAIMED TO BE THE MESSIAH.
4.IN REGARDS TO THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE STUDY THE PROPHETIC CALANDER OF DANIEL AND THE DECREE OF THE BUILDING OF THE TEMPLE.
5.THE TEMPLE I AM SPEAKING OF IS THE TEMPLE THAT SOLOMON BUILT. THE TEMPLE THAT THE JEWS USED TO WORSHIP IN BUT WAS DESTROYED.
6. IN REGARDS TO WHAT PAGE ITS ON IN THE BIBLE I WILL GIVE YOU *ONE* OF MANY THAT EXPLAINS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT (IN REGARDS TO THE TEMPLE).
DANIEL 9.
1. WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT RELIGION?
2.DO CURSE WORDS WIN DEBATES? CAN YOU ARTICULATE YOURSELF WITHOUT THE FOUL LANGUAGE? OR WILL YOU (LIKE MANY OTHERS) SPEW HATEFUL WORDS?
3.YOU ARE TERRIBLE AT PRESENTING YOUR VIEWS (TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR POST BUDDY).
PHILOSOPHY IS REQUIRED OT WIN A DEBATE??????? LMAO!!!!!!!!!! THAT MY FRIEND IS AN ABSURD STATEMENT WHICH WOULD APPEAR MANIACAL TO *ANY* PERSON WITH A BRAIN. AT THIS POINT IN TIME ITS SAFE TO COME TO THE ASSESSMENT THAT YOU HAVE THE MENTAL CAPACITY OF A WORM.
YOU ARE DEVOID OF KNOWLEDGE AND IM SURE YOU WILL RESORT TO ANOTHER FEEBLE ATTEMPT TO RIDICULE...............
WHY NOT LOOK IT UP FOR YOURSELF? IF I AM TELLING YOU TO LOOK IT UP IM TELLING YOU SO YOU CAN COME TO YOUR OWN ASSESSMENT BASED ON THE KNOWLEDGE AND RESEARCH THAT YOU HAVE DONE. LETS SAY I SAID THE FOLLOWING:
ESCHATOLOGY IS THE STUDY OF WORDS,CHATTING AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD. .
AT FIRST GLANCE YOU WILL SEE THE WORD *CHAT*. THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE BELIEF IN GOD.
YOUR MIND WILL THINK THATS THE DEFINITION IF YOU
a) dont know the definition
b)are to lazy to look it up for yourself
SO YOU SEE I TELL PEOPLE TO LOOK IT UP SO THEY WONT BE MISLEAD. I HOPE YOU CAN GRASP WHAT I AM TRYING TO CONVEY TO YOUR WEAK (and lackluster) SOUL.
IF THATS WHAT YOU SAY. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING WITH? YOU CANT EVEN MAKE A POST WITHOUT REFRAING FROM FOUL LANGUAGE. CAN YOU PRESENT YOUR VIEWS WITHOUT YOUR CRUTCH?
INFERIOR TO WHO? YOU? IN WHAT ASPECT? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW (THIS WILL BE COMEDY)
HERESY
http://www.arn.org/docs/orpages/or161/161main.htm
I found this online, Made me wonder about the scriptures christians follow... I guess im just stayin with spiritual and not religious..
The Biblical Picture Of God Is That Of An Evil God
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The Biblical picture of God can hardly be reconciled with Christian teaching that "God is love", eg.
All forms of life destroyed because of one imperfect species - Genesis 6:5,7, 7:23.
Human sacrifice commanded by God - Leviticus 27:28,29. God agrees that Jephthah sacrifices his daughter as a thanksgiving - Judges ll:29-40.
God sends ten plagues on Egypt because Pharaoh won't release the Hebrews, but he deliberately hardens Pharaoh's heart so he refuses to release the Hebrews making these plagues necessary in the first place - God admits this is so he can perform 'his wonders' (Exodus ll:9), ie. wholesale mass slaughter of life in Egypt - Exodus 7:3-4,l3-l4, l0:l,20.
God sanctions slavery and a man selling his daughter - Exodus 21:2-6,7.
Death demanded for heresy - Deuteronomy l3:l,2,5,l4,l5.
God says that if a man strikes 'his slave', male or female, and they do not die immediately, the man shall not be punished because 'the slave is his money (ie. property)' - Exodus 21:20-21.
God orders people to slaughter their own relatives because they rejected Moses' religion; 3000 killed. Moses tells the killers that God would bless them for doing this by making them ordained for his service - Exodus 32:27-29.
A person to kill their own family for a difference of religion - Deuteronomy l3:6-l0.
God demands death for anyone not circumcised - Genesis l7:9-l4. God demands the sick are to be driven out of the community - Numbers 5:l-4.
God burns people to death for complaining - Numbers ll:l.
God kills 24,000 people by a plague because one of them brought a Midianite woman to his tent - Numbers 25:6-9.
The curses of God upon the Hebrews (eg. eating their own children) - Leviticus 26:l4-39, Deuteronomy 28:l5-68.
God arranges the Midianite slaughter - Judges 7:2,9,22.
God instructs the mass slaughter of Midianites (Num 31:1- 18), and the Lord "slew every male", alongwith their rulers (31:7), and the Midianite women and children and animals were captured; Moses then demanded all the males, including babies and the women were to be slaughtered, but the young girls could be "kept alive for yourselves" (31:l8). This story records the extermination of the Midianites, but later on, God AGAIN instructs the slaughter of the Midianites (Judges 6:l6).
It is the same with the Amalekites - they are "ALL destroyed" in l Samuel l5:8, but they are destroyed yet again in l Samuel 27:8-9 and everyone - men and women - are killed; however, they are killed (- for the 3rd time) in l Samuel 30:l,l6-l7 except for 400 young men. At long last, they are are finally killed off in l Chronicles 4:43 when the 'remnant' were destroyed.
The Spirit of God comes upon Samson and he murders over a thousand people - Judges l4:l9, l5:l4-l5.
The Psalmist praises God for his 'steadfast love' but then details his slaughtering in the past - Psalm 136:l0-21.
God deliberately deludes people so they will not be saved - 2 Thess 2:ll-l2.
A girl not found to be a virgin was to be killed - Deuteronomy 22:l3-21 (Note the same did not apply to men !).
God kills a baby for its father's wrongdoing - ignoring the father's pleas - 2 Samuel 12:l5-20 (Contradicting the ruling in Deut 24;16, 2 Kings 14:6).
God kills 70,000 men - 2 Samuel 24:l5
God has a friendly meeting with his arch enemy Satan - whom he doesn't even recognise - Job l:6-7, and they have a wager (Job l:8-12) over how much suffering it would take before righteous Job will reject God. Job then has his whole family killed and livelihood ruined (l:l3-l9) and then is afflicted by a loathsome plague (2:7-8).
Is it hardly surprising that a deity like this, that Bible-believing Christians behave in the way they do.
The Biblical Picture Of God Is That Of An Evil God
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Biblical picture of God can hardly be reconciled with Christian teaching that "God is love", eg.
All forms of life destroyed because of one imperfect species - Genesis 6:5,7, 7:23.
Human sacrifice commanded by God - Leviticus 27:28,29. God agrees that Jephthah sacrifices his daughter as a thanksgiving - Judges ll:29-40.
God sends ten plagues on Egypt because Pharaoh won't release the Hebrews, but he deliberately hardens Pharaoh's heart so he refuses to release the Hebrews making these plagues necessary in the first place - God admits this is so he can perform 'his wonders' (Exodus ll:9), ie. wholesale mass slaughter of life in Egypt - Exodus 7:3-4,l3-l4, l0:l,20.
God sanctions slavery and a man selling his daughter - Exodus 21:2-6,7.
Death demanded for heresy - Deuteronomy l3:l,2,5,l4,l5.
God says that if a man strikes 'his slave', male or female, and they do not die immediately, the man shall not be punished because 'the slave is his money (ie. property)' - Exodus 21:20-21.
God orders people to slaughter their own relatives because they rejected Moses' religion; 3000 killed. Moses tells the killers that God would bless them for doing this by making them ordained for his service - Exodus 32:27-29.
A person to kill their own family for a difference of religion - Deuteronomy l3:6-l0.
God demands death for anyone not circumcised - Genesis l7:9-l4. God demands the sick are to be driven out of the community - Numbers 5:l-4.
God burns people to death for complaining - Numbers ll:l.
God kills 24,000 people by a plague because one of them brought a Midianite woman to his tent - Numbers 25:6-9.
The curses of God upon the Hebrews (eg. eating their own children) - Leviticus 26:l4-39, Deuteronomy 28:l5-68.
God arranges the Midianite slaughter - Judges 7:2,9,22.
God instructs the mass slaughter of Midianites (Num 31:1- 18), and the Lord "slew every male", alongwith their rulers (31:7), and the Midianite women and children and animals were captured; Moses then demanded all the males, including babies and the women were to be slaughtered, but the young girls could be "kept alive for yourselves" (31:l8). This story records the extermination of the Midianites, but later on, God AGAIN instructs the slaughter of the Midianites (Judges 6:l6).
It is the same with the Amalekites - they are "ALL destroyed" in l Samuel l5:8, but they are destroyed yet again in l Samuel 27:8-9 and everyone - men and women - are killed; however, they are killed (- for the 3rd time) in l Samuel 30:l,l6-l7 except for 400 young men. At long last, they are are finally killed off in l Chronicles 4:43 when the 'remnant' were destroyed.
The Spirit of God comes upon Samson and he murders over a thousand people - Judges l4:l9, l5:l4-l5.
The Psalmist praises God for his 'steadfast love' but then details his slaughtering in the past - Psalm 136:l0-21.
God deliberately deludes people so they will not be saved - 2 Thess 2:ll-l2.
A girl not found to be a virgin was to be killed - Deuteronomy 22:l3-21 (Note the same did not apply to men !).
God kills a baby for its father's wrongdoing - ignoring the father's pleas - 2 Samuel 12:l5-20 (Contradicting the ruling in Deut 24;16, 2 Kings 14:6).
God kills 70,000 men - 2 Samuel 24:l5
God has a friendly meeting with his arch enemy Satan - whom he doesn't even recognise - Job l:6-7, and they have a wager (Job l:8-12) over how much suffering it would take before righteous Job will reject God. Job then has his whole family killed and livelihood ruined (l:l3-l9) and then is afflicted by a loathsome plague (2:7-8).
Is it hardly surprising that a deity like this, that Bible-believing Christians behave in the way they do.