Well its looks like NASH is gonna be MVP

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Jun 27, 2005
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Tony said:
XXXtramish... there was hardly no contact. Nash just got dipped on plain and simple. He flopped!! Keep it real! Nash was trying to be sneaky. Didn't work out for him.
Turn your lakervision off for a second. kobe jumped straight into him.
 
Nov 1, 2005
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why are all the laker haters talking about the dunk being a foul,take the lose like men and move on.u didnt see any of us laker fans coming in here and complaining when kobe was smacked on the head in game 1 did u?.
 

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surcaliman said:
u didnt see any of us laker fans coming in here and complaining when kobe was smacked on the head in game 1 did u?.
That's what I am sayin'.... Even Tim Thomas admitted after the game that it was a foul. Kobe had a knot on his head.
 
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Psycho Logic said:
congratulations. you're a Lakres fan (big suprise there). you want a cookie?
This was in response to your banwagon comment, i dont want a cookie, just tryin to emphasize that im no where near a banwagon fan


Yes, its SO clear-cut, in fact, that Nash won the title IN A LANDSLIDE. and congrats again about being a big boy and being able to make your own inferences.. that doesnt mean you know shit about what an MVP is
why your gettin so worked up and saying i dont know shit is beyond me. Homie i know shit, probably more than you. I know that Nash is probably the worst player to get the mvp in history (Besides bob cousy who won it back in the day shooting a fg percentage of 37%) Nash didnt have the same impact on the NBA as a whole that kobe or lebron did. Again theres not much i can say because you give these sports journalists way to much creditablity. Until you figure out how much of a joke sports journalism is, you probably will never understand how the mvp award works.

oh boo hoo. there's a conspiracy out to get kobe, yes.. Im sure thats it. it has nothing to do with him allegedly raping a girl, then acting like an ass to the media. kobe brings that shit on to himself, my friend. dont kid yourself
What does all of that have to do with the on-court performance?? This has been the main question posed to writers, who continue to write bad articles about Kobe despite is excellence on the court. Even if Kobe raped 300 women and massacred 90 people, it shouldnt matter because its what he does on the hardwood. Most sports writers let the outside happenings influence what they think about him. No one wants to vote a alleged rapist, and no one wants to support a prick. But to say that what happend in colorado didnt effect the MVP race in 2006 is str8 up ignorant.

yo.. they do it for a LIVING. you think they just read prosports daily, watch the espn 10 ten highlights and thats it? they dedicate their lives to the game. they KNOW the game.. just cuz you been a fan since 91 (wow) doesn't mean that you know more about the game than these people do. get real
i think you need to get real, Most of these guys are not as "genius" as you make them out to be. I read my share of articles and the things they write are sometimes completely incorrect. Accuracy with these sports writers is not something that they strive for. And just cuz its their job doesnt mean their good at it. I mean would you respect an article written by the Ying Yang twins about the art of MCing? Its their job? They put a lot of work into it! you see what im saying? anyways you probably wont. With that being said there still is a minority of writers who keep it real, and their basketball knowledge shows in their articles. Like Charlie Rosen, writes for fox sports, he may be a big kobe hater, but he can write in depth articles.

IT WAS A CHARGE. look, here is the definition of a blocking foul and a charge.

Blocks/Charge: A block/charge foul occurs when a defender tries to get in front of his man to stop him from going in that direction. If he does not get into a legal defensive position and contact occurs, it is a blocking foul. If he gets to a legal position and the offensive player runs into him it is an offensive foul. In both situations, if the contact is minimal, no foul may be called. To get into a legal position defending against the dribbler, the defender just needs to get in front of him. On a drive to the basket, the defender must get to his position before the shooter starts his upward shooting motion. For most other cases, the defender must get into position and allow enough distance for the offensive player to stop and/or change direction.

That means, regardless of how "airborne" kobe got, IT WAS A CHARGE. I dont give a fuck how well kobe played, that was a charge. moving on...
lol, man what im typing really goes over your head, let me explain this more. The instant kobe's two feet were off the ground, Nash's leg was still sliding into position. Kobe was in the act of shooting, before nash was set, maybe by a split second. Regardless, that would never have been called, and shouldnt be called because this is the playoffs and this is the NBA, when your 6'3" and have limited vertical leap, when you are slow to rotate, get out of the way.
 
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Wow, this thread took off in a hurry..

Tony said:
You don't win because of biased voting fool.
Biased? Come on man. I don't wanna get into an exchange of insults with you again, but let's be real for a moment. Nobody is being biased or plotting against Kobe Bryant. I'm a Sacramento Kings fan, I hate the Lakers, but I think Kobe is the best player in the NBA right now. I do not hate Kobe, I enjoy watching him play because he is exciting.. I thought he was definately in the running for MVP, without a doubt, but so was Nash and so was LeBron James. They were all deserving. If you really must know why I believe Steve Nash does deserve the MVP just read the first post of this thread. I already explained why Kobe didn't get the award, so I'll leave it at that.

Anyway, I don't see what all the fuss is about. Regardless of who is the league MVP, none of the three front-runners are getting a championship. It's just a fuckin MVP award, it shouldn't mean that much to you people. I think Shaun Alexander is the most undeserving NFL MVP in recent history because it was his O-Line that did most of the work, but you don't see me throwing a fit and arguing with people about who should have really been the MVP. Sure, I made a few comments about his O-Line deserving it more than he does, but that's it. It's not that big a deal. So, who gives a fuck?
 

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Obviously we give a fuck or we wouldn't be choppin' it up like this. It's all opinion but when a player has to score 81 points in a game... and a player outscored one a team for 3 quarters obviously that player is most valuable.
 
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Tony said:
Obviously we give a fuck or we wouldn't be choppin' it up like this. It's all opinion but when a player has to score 81 points in a game... and a player outscored one a team for 3 quarters obviously that player is most valuable.
That's bullshit.. So, you could do that in the first two games, get injured, and be most valuable? Nah.

Kobe I thought had a legit shot, but he doesn't do anything but score.. I thought LeBron, Nash and even Billups were better choices.
 
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Tony said:
and a player outscored one a team for 3 quarters obviously that player is most valuable.
Well obviously you are WRONG because he is not the MVP LOL. That is called being one of the best players. I'm done with this though because you can't accept that you are wrong. Nash MVP, Kobe not. GET OVER IT.
 
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FATAL NYGHTMARE said:
You people wanna know why Kobe didn't get the MVP? Fuck that bullshit article that Tony posted (both of them). He didn't get the MVP because of selfishness. Before you clowns try and come at me with your excuses, I already know he didn't have a great supporting cast. But nobody else on that team scored. They are professional basketball players, they should be able to put some points up on the board if they get a chance to do so. Kobe didn't give them that chance. The league values team players, and Kobe Bryant is far from a team player. Sure, he can take the game into his hands and possibly win it with minimal help, but that's not what the league and coaches want to see. The only thing Kobe did was put up points, he didn't help his teammates get better and it was a one-man show in a 5-man team sport. That's why he did not get MVP. Anybody who believes otherwise is a jackass.
1. Jordan was also selfish in the same respect.

2. His teammates DID get better, all of them.

3. He was more of a team player this year then he ever was. His past years seem to overshadow that, though. Some people are just stuck on that.

Kobe is deserving of the MVP, but so are a few other players.
 
Mar 18, 2003
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surcaliman said:
too bad hes never held up a championship trophy like kobe has on 3 occasions..
^LOL

It looks like the "foul" talk has subsided after being reminded of the hit Kobe took. Funny shit. This entire thread is funny.

Damn this is gonna be a good series.
 
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Nitro the Guru said:
1. Jordan was also selfish in the same respect.
Jordan was far better than Kobe. He was not as selfish, he was a better defender, and he made his teammates perform at a higher level. There is no comparison between Kobe and Jordan.

Nitro the Guru said:
2. His teammates DID get better, all of them.
No thanks to Kobe. Unless they tried harder because they were being left out so badly.. Either way he did not directly and deliberately try to help them perform at a higher level.
 
Jun 23, 2002
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I dont think anyone deserves to be MVP

Kobe = awesome player, NO ONE can deny he's tight, but hasn't made his team better like Nash or Lebron

Nash = makes everyone around him tight, deserved it LAST YEAR, but the 2 years in the row thing makes NO sense..how many championships he got? A 2nd year MVP gotta deliver the goods...he might get it this year..who knows

Lebron = incredible..better than Kobe when it comes to gettin his team mates involved, but still too young

It's a tough decision...I'd say no one gets it..or should I say really deserves it