VP Candate Palin just killed that shit
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He hasn't been questioned because of his muslim background, there are plenty of Arabs in Africa. I questioned it because I've seen this statement everywhere...
Mr. Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side. He is 43.75% Arabic, and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side, a great-great grandparent. His ancestors on his father's side were Arab slave traders. They operated under an extended grant from Queen Victoria, who gave them the right to continue the slave trade in exchange for helping the British defeat the Madhi Army in southern Sudan and the Upper Nile region
Mr. Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side. He is 43.75% Arabic, and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side, a great-great grandparent. His ancestors on his father's side were Arab slave traders. They operated under an extended grant from Queen Victoria, who gave them the right to continue the slave trade in exchange for helping the British defeat the Madhi Army in southern Sudan and the Upper Nile region
LOL at reformed wiggers questioning Obama's blackness ...
thanks to the insatiable lust of the powers that be, mulattoes once made up 25% of the slave population.... as a result, finding one who is '100% black' would be a difficult task... although I wouldn't expect you to understand - especially if you've lived in a city with a >3% black population all of your life...
after college, instead of going for a 6 figure salary, Obama hit the South Side of Chicago (largest black population in the US), became a community organizer and drove a bucket...
and one needs to remember that at the beginning of the primary season, a large chunk of black voters were supporting Hillary, so your argument of black folks unquestionably voting for their own falls flat.... ie Alan Keys...
Now go back to your right wing parents and soak up some more racist propaganda, cuz the Willie Lynch tactics are stale...
Reformed wigger, huh? I, unlike a lot of folks, am proud of my heritage and have never tried to be black or tried to act black. So save that wigger shit for the dumb fuck white kid that has no identity. I talk the way I talk, I walk the way I walk, and I dress the way I dress because of the time I grew up and the people I grew up around. About Obama's "Blackness"...he's not even HALF AFRICAN, get a fuckin' grip.
What does this have to do with anything? None of Obama's family was here during slavery. His father is from Kenya, remember? Which means his immediate family wasn't taken during the slave trade. However, I did read that Obama is of Arab decent and his family was INVOLVED in slave trading. Kind of ironic if it's true, huh? So save that shit. He's half white by his fathers choice, not because a relative of his was raped by a slave owner. Slavery didn't effect Obama's family.
Oh wow, he drove a bucket. What did he do for the south side of Chicago? Anything? I can tell you what he DID do. He became an Illinois Senator and made his wife rich. What did he do for the community?
Nowhere in my argument did I EVER state that black folks were unquestionably voting for Obama. I DID say he's trying to play race to his advantage. Funny thing is, I know a lot of black folks that AREN'T voting for Obama because they question his "Blackness". Oh shit, those must be wiggers, too.
Pops is right wing, mom is independent in thought and practice. Racist propaganda, thoughts, expressions, words are not and never have been accepted in my family. Half of my family didn't even come to this country until the 20th Century...we don't think or act like most "white folks" you know, because we came from a different country...more recently than most.
If you're going to speak about me, learn about me first. I never came on here and disrespected you.
What does this have to do with anything? None of Obama's family was here during slavery. His father is from Kenya, remember? Which means his immediate family wasn't taken during the slave trade. However, I did read that Obama is of Arab decent and his family was INVOLVED in slave trading. Kind of ironic if it's true, huh? So save that shit. He's half white by his fathers choice, not because a relative of his was raped by a slave owner. Slavery didn't effect Obama's family.
Oh wow, he drove a bucket. What did he do for the south side of Chicago? Anything? I can tell you what he DID do. He became an Illinois Senator and made his wife rich. What did he do for the community?
Nowhere in my argument did I EVER state that black folks were unquestionably voting for Obama. I DID say he's trying to play race to his advantage. Funny thing is, I know a lot of black folks that AREN'T voting for Obama because they question his "Blackness". Oh shit, those must be wiggers, too.
Pops is right wing, mom is independent in thought and practice. Racist propaganda, thoughts, expressions, words are not and never have been accepted in my family. Half of my family didn't even come to this country until the 20th Century...we don't think or act like most "white folks" you know, because we came from a different country...more recently than most.
If you're going to speak about me, learn about me first. I never came on here and disrespected you.
Is that right? Tell me something then, why do I know Africans (REAL AFRICANS, STRAIGHT FROM AFRICA IN THE LAST CENTURY), that don't agree with African-American viewpoints, lifestyles, and aggression towards white people, esp. government and law enforcement?
You find these African cats, and tell them that American slavery affects them.
Remember, we had slaves in this country because Africans gave this country the slaves.
You find these African cats, and tell them that American slavery affects them.
Remember, we had slaves in this country because Africans gave this country the slaves.
slavery effects this whole fucking world...imo
there was african slaves with arabic slaveowners that made black people eat rotting meat in dog bowls and sleep outside
not that that means anything in the convo
check this book out if you get a chance
there was african slaves with arabic slaveowners that made black people eat rotting meat in dog bowls and sleep outside
not that that means anything in the convo
check this book out if you get a chance
"What these records show is that the modern slave trade flourished in the early middle ages, as early as 869, especially between Muslim traders and western African kingdoms. For moralists, the most important aspect of that trade should be that Muslims were selling goods to the African kingdoms and the African kingdoms were paying with their own people. In most instances, no violence was necessary to obtain those slaves. Contrary to legends and novels and Hollywood movies, the white traders did not need to savagely kill entire tribes in order to exact their tribute in slaves. All they needed to do is bring goods that appealed to the kings of those tribes. The kings would gladly sell their own kins.
This explains why slavery became "black". Ancient slavery, e.g. under the Roman empire, would not discriminate: slaves were both white and black (so were Emperors and Popes). In the middle ages, all European countries outlawed slavery (of course, they retained countless "civilized" ways to enslave their citizens, but that's another story), whereas the African kingdoms happily continued in their trade. Therefore, only colored people could be slaves, and that is how the stereotype for African-American slavery was born. It was not based on an ancestral hatred of blacks by whites, but simply on the fact that blacks were the only ones selling slaves, and they were selling their own kins. (To be precise, Christians were also selling Muslim slaves captured in war, and Muslims were selling Christian slaves captured in war, but neither the Christians of Europe nor the Muslims of Africa and the Middle East were selling their own kins).
Then the Muslim trade of African slaves came to a stop when Arab domination was reduced by the Crusades. (Note: Arabs continued to capture and sell slaves, but only in the Mediterranean. In fact, Robert Davis estimates that 1.25 million European Christians were enslaved by the "barbary states" of northern Africa. The USA bombed Morocco, Algiers, Tunis and Tripoli in 1801 precisely to stop that Arab slave trade of Christians. The rate of mortality of those Christian slaves in the Islamic world was roughly the same as the mortality rate in the Atlantic slave trade of the same period."
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/slavetra.html
This explains why slavery became "black". Ancient slavery, e.g. under the Roman empire, would not discriminate: slaves were both white and black (so were Emperors and Popes). In the middle ages, all European countries outlawed slavery (of course, they retained countless "civilized" ways to enslave their citizens, but that's another story), whereas the African kingdoms happily continued in their trade. Therefore, only colored people could be slaves, and that is how the stereotype for African-American slavery was born. It was not based on an ancestral hatred of blacks by whites, but simply on the fact that blacks were the only ones selling slaves, and they were selling their own kins. (To be precise, Christians were also selling Muslim slaves captured in war, and Muslims were selling Christian slaves captured in war, but neither the Christians of Europe nor the Muslims of Africa and the Middle East were selling their own kins).
Then the Muslim trade of African slaves came to a stop when Arab domination was reduced by the Crusades. (Note: Arabs continued to capture and sell slaves, but only in the Mediterranean. In fact, Robert Davis estimates that 1.25 million European Christians were enslaved by the "barbary states" of northern Africa. The USA bombed Morocco, Algiers, Tunis and Tripoli in 1801 precisely to stop that Arab slave trade of Christians. The rate of mortality of those Christian slaves in the Islamic world was roughly the same as the mortality rate in the Atlantic slave trade of the same period."
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/slavetra.html
like honestly, if you had no pic up, i'd know you were white based on that comment alone
you dont have to be in a place for it to effect you or trickle down, much like wars still effect the people sitting on their ass picking their noses to the tv.
if you can post some concrete evidence that slavery in no way effected anyone who wasnt enslaved personally, i would love to see it
are you familiar with the creole culture?
you dont have to be in a place for it to effect you or trickle down, much like wars still effect the people sitting on their ass picking their noses to the tv.
if you can post some concrete evidence that slavery in no way effected anyone who wasnt enslaved personally, i would love to see it
are you familiar with the creole culture?
Ok, the atrocities of slavery didn't trickle over to privileged people in Africa. Barack Obama's family wasn't raped and beaten, nor did they feel that from the other side of the globe. Since his pops had power, and his dads family had power, they were probably the ones giving people away for goods. That is my argument.
My concrete evidence has already been posted. AFRICANS that I know personally, that do not agree with African American attitude and do not share the same views as African Americans. Their reasons? "I was not a slave, why should I be hostile?". "I didn't go through what their ancestors went through, and neither did they...it doesn't matter to me". I know quite a few Africans that can't stand African Americans, because there's an attitude there that they will never understand. Again, their views, not mine.
Those are words that came from the darkest Africans you'll ever see that don't share the same views as you. That's my concrete evidence, straight from the horses mouth.
My concrete evidence has already been posted. AFRICANS that I know personally, that do not agree with African American attitude and do not share the same views as African Americans. Their reasons? "I was not a slave, why should I be hostile?". "I didn't go through what their ancestors went through, and neither did they...it doesn't matter to me". I know quite a few Africans that can't stand African Americans, because there's an attitude there that they will never understand. Again, their views, not mine.
Those are words that came from the darkest Africans you'll ever see that don't share the same views as you. That's my concrete evidence, straight from the horses mouth.
YALL MOTHERFUCKERS
need to NOT turn this into a race campaign, and see of it more as a cultural campaign. This is AMERICA, and to live here you need to partially check the 'heritage' of wherever your ancestors came from at the door.
If you're Irish, you aint gonna sell a whole lot of potato soup here. If you're Arabic, you aint covering up any of MY mfkn girlfriends to the point where I can't look down her shirt if I damn well choose.
If you're German, I'm not going to come to your 'playhouse' with oxygen proof windows/doors and breathe in your 'funny gas'.
Because you can't force these things down my throat where I live.
I think this whole "blackness" question is fucking absurd. It's a representation of how ignorant our country is as a whole. We still see skin color as a means of identifying a sub-culture with particular stereotypes and ideals.
If there's ANY "_____ness" we should pay attention to it's "economic ladderness". Where do you sit? Who's going to put money in your pocket, and who's going to stimulate the economy and create jobs for us? I can tell you one thing, ending this war is the beginning of that. Who would make a better president?
I dont know at this point, I can only go with my intuition. We need a leader who identifies with most all sub cultures in this country on both a micro and macro sociological plane. I feel with either man's path to where they are now, Barack Obama understands a larger audience than John McCain does. Did you guys see him at that biker show he spoke at? What a fucking square, a fish out of water- a large pink elephant at a party full of mice. He was playing the crowd with a nervous smile, wondering if at any moment 6 bikers would steal and fornicate with his wife.
When I think of John McCain I think of a man who grew up under republican leaders such as Nixon, Reagan, and Bush Sr. I believe he would have been a much better choice than Bush for he last 8 years, and on the republican side there's no better nomination than McCain. However, at this point in time I feel that given the state of this nation Obama would serve the interest of the people as a whole... while McCain would serve the interest of his military friends, his friends who own real estate in 4 different states, and all the other republican who have helped him to the position he sits in to this day.
besides, Obama crossed Stuart Scott in a game of basketball. How couldn't you vote for a president that would run a 1 on 1 tournament at the United Nations?
first off, you being a white man, your argument for the plight of black people is completely invalid, as you have never lived, known, been a relative of, or historically can recall family history of black enslavement. unless it was on the power end.
i was crazy id just call you an evil pale face and the destruction of darker people is in your blood, regardless if youre aware or not.
but thats not the case so lets ignore that
secondly, an argument in power when were talking about slavery is completely off topic. you went from talking about blacks not being affected by slavery, to saying that his parents had power. what the fuck does that mean as a black man? can you honestly answer that to me? have you ever been a black man, have you grown up black?
do you know how many rich black people are unjustly targeted based on having any sort of power? remember a few black leaders back in the day getting shot?
third, you KNOWING AFRICANS DOES NOT MEAN SHIT and is the biggest cop out white people come up with when it comes to these talks. so all the sudden you just soaked up a lifetimes worth of blackness because you had a race convo? HA!
if you think slavery didnt effect africans, africa, america, and the entire world beyond that, you, and your african friends are ignorant as fuck and should be beheaded, and have your heads dumped in vacant lots.
imo.
maybe im wrong, you know?
i was crazy id just call you an evil pale face and the destruction of darker people is in your blood, regardless if youre aware or not.
but thats not the case so lets ignore that
secondly, an argument in power when were talking about slavery is completely off topic. you went from talking about blacks not being affected by slavery, to saying that his parents had power. what the fuck does that mean as a black man? can you honestly answer that to me? have you ever been a black man, have you grown up black?
do you know how many rich black people are unjustly targeted based on having any sort of power? remember a few black leaders back in the day getting shot?
third, you KNOWING AFRICANS DOES NOT MEAN SHIT and is the biggest cop out white people come up with when it comes to these talks. so all the sudden you just soaked up a lifetimes worth of blackness because you had a race convo? HA!
if you think slavery didnt effect africans, africa, america, and the entire world beyond that, you, and your african friends are ignorant as fuck and should be beheaded, and have your heads dumped in vacant lots.
imo.
maybe im wrong, you know?