VP Candate Palin just killed that shit

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she held it down. gotta give it to her. obama is way too much of a world healing pussy to throw jabs like that. hope and change has no edge.
your right, peace and love has no edge.

i don't get why we try to teach our politics like action movies lol.
if there is no bad guy with a gun, then we aint paying attention?? shit.
 
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your right, peace and love has no edge.

i don't get why we try to teach our politics like action movies lol.
if there is no bad guy with a gun, then we aint paying attention?? shit.
because george bush said we live in a dangerous world.
we cant let no hippie gunshy coon in the white house unless hes ready to murk some people within 48 hours. we got a lot of freedom spreading to do in the next couple years. russia aint feelin it.
 
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we will all see how october 14th pans out..
and then i will make a thread asking everyone how they think of our government and political standing/direction.

=D

so i been thinking about getting a sticker for my car that says the immortal technique quote "and they think illuminati is a fucking conspiracy theory" just to get these southern hicks riled up. does anyone know the website where you can create your own message and order these bumper stickers? my bro used to know a site but i forgot it..
lol tony gonna delete my post "teh google, bitch"



BTW
@ COONDOGG, seriouslythug posted a website for your information, i know its pretty manipulating how the news stations are set up, but unfortunately there is no such thing as a channel or show on public television that is "liberal" because of the economical pull that people with excessive money and ties have. sad but true.
 

Sydal

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Republicans that listen to hip hop? Whats next the Klan?
Just because you like a republican candidate and not a democratic one doesn't make you a Republican. See, that's the problem with this country. NOBODY knows how to sit on the fence and decide for themselves. There are INDEPENDENTS in this country, people that listen to issues and decide for themselves. Because REALLY, everybody has a bit of liberal and a bit of conservative in them.

Chris Rock has it right....
 

Sydal

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Republicans that listen to hip hop? Whats next the Klan?
You wanna know what's funny? Rappers that want to vote for Obama. That dude is ready to tax the fuck out of this nation. But he's good. WHY? Because he's "Black"? That dude is Half-White. A half white dude that doesn't identify with that side of his culture...so in my eyes, dude is half-sellout trying to play the racial line.

Just my own observation.
 
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You wanna know what's funny? Rappers that want to vote for Obama. That dude is ready to tax the fuck out of this nation.
According to what, McBush's smear commercials?

Turn off the TV and actually do some research before you call yourself a true independent who can make uninfluenced decisions.
 
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According to what, McBush's smear commercials?

Turn off the TV and actually do some research before you call yourself a true independent who can make uninfluenced decisions.
co-sign to the fuckin fullest

copied from another thread:


go deeper than the blurbs...

tax plans:


Tax plan face off: Obama vs. McCain
WHITE HOUSE RACE | Whoever wins, you'll probably pay less

June 30, 2008
BY ABDON M. PALLASCH
Political Reporter/[email protected]


The rich would pay more under Barack Obama's tax plan, and the poor and middle-class would pay less, a nonpartisan analysis finds. Under John McCain's plan, the rich would pay much less than they do now, the poor and middle-class would pay a bit less, and the federal deficit would grow, the study found.

Each individual's tax situation is different, so it's hard to say for sure how much more or less you would pay under the presidential candidates' ever-evolving tax proposals.

And at this point that's all they are -- proposals that may or may not get through Congress. They don't take into account wars, whether the president will sign an expensive social program into law, or the world economy.

With those caveats, here are highlights of how the candidates' proposals to change the tax code would impact you:

Obama says he would hike several taxes on people making more than $250,000, including the amount they pay on capital gains. Currently, the top income tax rate is 35 percent. Under Obama, that would go back up to 39 percent. Obama's staff told the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center he would raise the rates for people in the top two brackets -- about 2.5 million filers out of 100 million-plus. People in those high tax brackets would see the tax rate on their capital gains hiked from the current 15 percent to 20-28 percent.

Obama started his campaign saying his plans would not increase taxes for people earning less than $250,000. But he found himself in an apparent contradiction by saying he would tax all income to fund Social Security, not just income up to $102,000, as is now the case. So now, Obama's plan calls for no Social Security tax on income between $102,000 and $250,000, but all income above $250,000 would be taxed for Social Security.

The 95 percent-plus of the American population that earns less than $250,000 would see the following tax breaks: A $500-per-worker tax credit for people who earn less than $150,000 and do not itemize, and a $4,000 credit per child in college. Seniors who earn less than $50,000 would pay no income tax.

The Tax Policy Center notes seniors could end up paying more if corporations respond to Obama's proposed increase in the corporate tax rate by passing those costs along to consumers.

McCain would make permanent most of the tax cuts President Bush has already enacted, including those that benefit the middle class, such as elimination of the marriage penalty and the increase in child credits. He would also keep cuts that benefit the wealthy, such as the elimination of the highest tax brackets. Obama would keep the breaks for the middle class but not the ones for the wealthy.

McCain would also double the dependent exemption from $3,500 to $7,000, benefitting big families of all incomes.

Obama would leave the top corporate tax rate at 35 percent. McCain would cut it to 25 percent.

The two candidates differ widely in their approach to the estate tax, which the Republicans call the "death tax." McCain would set it at 15 percent for estates above $5 million. Obama would set it at 45 percent for estates above $3.5 million.

Both candidates favor extending a "patch" that would keep the Alternative Minimum Tax from encroaching on middle-income families.

Largely because his tax proposals would leave tax breaks for the wealthy in place, McCain's plan would cost the U.S. Treasury more than Obama's, the Tax Policy Center found.

The precise cost depends on whether you assume the current tax breaks would be renewed or would expire.

Assuming they would have been renewed anyway, Obama's plan would bring in an additional $700 billion in taxes over the next 10 years, while McCain's would cost the Treasury $600 billion. Assuming legislators would have let the tax breaks expire, Obama's plan would cost the U.S. Treasury $2.7 trillion and McCain's $3.7 trillion.

The center uses various assumptions both campaigns quarrel with. Each campaign also accuses the other of not being honest with the numbers.

"Obama raises taxes in a way that's detrimental to the economy," said McCain adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin. "The John McCain plan is a jobs-first plan that keeps small businesses in the game."

Obama's Brian Deese said the $600 million deficit the study pro- jects McCain's plan would create "doesn't count impact of current Iraq war spending. If McCain's plan drives the deficit up and puts upward pressure on interest rates, that increases costs for families and could force really Draconian, across-the-board spending cuts."
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1031268,CST-NWS-tax30.article
 

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According to what, McBush's smear commercials?

Turn off the TV and actually do some research before you call yourself a true independent who can make uninfluenced decisions.
According to this...

"The rich would pay more under Barack Obama's tax plan, and the poor and middle-class would pay less, a nonpartisan analysis finds". Rich cats, esp. rap cats and people that make an assload of money, do NOT WANT TO PAY MORE TAXES! They're already getting taxed at what, 46%? Somewhere around there, just shy of half their income. Which, I don't care who you are, is bullshit. The poor and middle class SHOULD pay less, but the rich don't need to carry the extra tax money, it's not cool (and I'm not rich, so my opinion isn't based on personal shit). Tell you what, if Obama wants to be a liberal and not kick out illegal immigrants, he needs to find them and tax them as well. If they want to live here, they have to pay like the rest of us. Again, just my opinion. He also needs to do something about prisons because I'm sick of paying to house crack addicts and feed them. If they wanna be cracked out, let 'em and stop taxing us to pay for it. He needs to address REAL SHIT!

Just an FYI, I barely watch T.V., and when I do, it's late night old school Fresh Prince shit. I don't have the time to mess with TV unless it's important. For example, the DNC and the RNC. I never claimed to be a democrat, a republican or an Independent. I said there are INDEPENDENTS in the country. I'm registered to a party, nobodies business which. BUT, when O'Bama came out my vote was for him. When I heard his plans, he lost my vote. I make my own decisions, I don't care who is going for what, if I agree with it I will run with that candidate...if I don't, I won't. If I agree with McCain after I see his speech (Recorded it), I will vote for him. If I don't, I won't be voting this time around. If you want somebody to do their homework, write O'Bama and tell him to do his homework on the defense program before he says it's not effective and puts people out of work.
 

Sydal

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"So now, Obama's plan calls for no Social Security tax on income between $102,000 and $250,000"

Also, I don't know what kind of money you make, but in most of the country, BESIDES New York and California, that right there is a fuck load of money. If Obama wants to tax rich folks, why isn't he taxing that bracket? National Average (Middle class) is lower than that.
 

Rusto

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lol.. no one talks about him teaching or him practicing law cuz they keep tryin to hide the fact that he studied at Harvard and what not..cuz that would make him an elitist..
huh?
obama owns 1 house, mccain owns 7. CIndy mccains outfit tonight costed $300,000.......obama is a elitist?