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Tony

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Yeah I get what you're saying.

I haven't seen to many of the Cassius Clay fights... I don't like watching fights in black and white.

I just always thought that Holyfield would smash Ali.
 
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2-0-Sixx you're proving my point. People need to shut up with all the blind hate and get to the facts. See what i wanted to do was shut up all the Mayweather is ducking Manny talk which I think I did. No one wants to states the facts that Manny has made a name for himself by beating up already damaged fighter that come straight to him. For the record Cotto has no defense other the running like he did the last 4 rounds of the Mosley fight. Cotto is and was HBO hype. HBO commenators will lead you to believe some this bums they hype up are elite fighters. Khan,Ortiz, Angulo,and Jacobs all HBO hype job fighting nothing but shot and washed up named fighters. ArGenTin3 Manny is all action again walking punching bags.
 
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2-0-Sixx you're proving my point. People need to shut up with all the blind hate and get to the facts. See what i wanted to do was shut up all the Mayweather is ducking Manny talk which I think I did.
What are you talking about man? This isn't about hate or whatever, fact is I've been a mayweather fan as long as I can remember. But a duck is a duck. You don't "go on vacation" and "not think about boxing" when $60 million dollars is right there.

Let's all be real with ourselves here. Floyd didn't want the fight in 2010. Maybe, hopefully, that changes in 2011. But Floyd didn't want it. That's known, that's factual. Interpret that how you want (him being a pussy, scared, big-headed, bored, or whatever).


No one wants to states the facts that Manny has made a name for himself by beating up already damaged fighter that come straight to him.
Manny beat everyone he needed to beat and then some. Name some of the guys at 122, 126, and 130 pounds that Pac didn't fight? He fought the best/biggest names. And beat them.

For the record Cotto has no defense
Man please! Cotto OUTBOXED shane mosley. That means something. Floyd nearly got dropped by Shane and Cotto never buckled. That must mean something. He's no pernell whitaker, but cotto does have defense and he can box effectively.

other the running like he did the last 4 rounds of the Mosley fight.
If he just ran the last four rounds he would have lost the fight. He out-boxed mosley, simple & plain.

Cotto is and was HBO hype.
See man, this what I'm talking about. This is just utter bs. Cotto has one of the best resumes in the game right now. Just look at!

Foreman
Pacquiao
Clottey
Margarito
Mosley
Zab Judah
Urkal
Carlos Quintana
Paulie Malignaggi
Branco
Ricardo Torres
DeMarcus Corley
Randall Bailey
Pinto
Lovemore N'dou

That's was/is the who's who of 140, 147 and even a fight at 154. He's not hype man, you don't beat those types of caliber fighters for that long over 3 weight classes and be nothin but hype! That is an impressive resume, for anyone, period.

Cotto deserves more credit and respect than that. He's taken on all the big names, never complained, never ducked anyone, just did his job. More fighters I wish were like cotto.


HBO commenators will lead you to believe some this bums they hype up are elite fighters. Khan,Ortiz, Angulo,and Jacobs all HBO hype job fighting nothing but shot and washed up named fighters. ArGenTin3 Manny is all action again walking punching bags.
HBO can and is biased, but that doesn't take anything away from Cotto.
 
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Take away the Mosley win from that list and you have nothing on that list that is great. He ran more then the Golden boy vs Tito the last 4 rounds of the Mosley fight how can you beat champion by running. Cottley has beat no one elite. I'm sorry but i just didn't see a great resume. I see a guy that can't beat an elite fighter.
 
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what are you talking about man? His win against Judah was awesome. He fucked up Paulie Malignaggi who was undefeated at the time. He fucked up Carlos Quintana who was undefeated at the time (who went on to beat Paul Williams shortly after let's not forget). Ricardo Torres was also undefeated at the time. Urkal was a solid win who's only losses came to Kostya Tszyu and Vivian Harris. Clottey was a solid win. Even his loss to Margarito was a good fight as he was winning till he got stopped.

Does anyone else but bigface agree with this? I know tony does since he predicted alfonzo gomez was going to knock cotto out, but tony doesn't have a fully functional brain. Anyone normal support this claim that Cotto never beat anyone good?

I think Cotto is a clear hall of fame fighter. His resume is impressive. Not many guys these days have gone through that type of opposition.
 

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I think if anybody ducked anybody it was Pacquiao ducking Mayweather. The fight would have happened on March 13th if Pacquiao would have agreed to the 14 day cut off date (that he's supposedly agreeing to now).

After seeing how Floyd got rocked, Pacquiao thinks he could rock and finish Floyd off, so that answers my own question about why Pacquiao all of a sudden changed his stance on the drug testing. I guess being blood tested so close to the fight doesn't weaken him anymore...
 
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2-0-Sixx you have proved my point. If Cotto has a great resume then how in the world can anyone question Mayweather resume.
Diego Corrales
Shane Mosley
Genaro Hernandez
Jose Castilla 2 times
Oscar De La Hoya
RickyHatton
Juan Marquez
Jesus Chavez
Phillip N'dou
Zab Judah-mentally bum a**
 
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2-0-Sixx you have proved my point. If Cotto has a great resume then how in the world can anyone question Mayweather resume.
Diego Corrales
Shane Mosley
Genaro Hernandez
Jose Castilla 2 times
Oscar De La Hoya
RickyHatton
Juan Marquez
Jesus Chavez
Phillip N'dou
Zab Judah-mentally bum a**
when did I ever question floyd's resume? I've said over and over and over again Floyd and pac are the two best fighters in the sport, without question. That doesn't mean I don't think he killed the pac fight. He's a part time fighter, let's face it. Like he said, he's like the superbowl only happens once a year.
 
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@bigface-Hahaha join in? No thanks. this stuff has already been talked about and discussed MANY times before. I just like coming in here to read boxing news and read other peoples views/opinions on certain things but it just amazes me how many times 206 has to school some of y'all one, two, three, four, five...ten...twenty times on the SAME OL subject. Really no point of talking about the first time Pac/Floyd tried negotiating, no point of talking about who's to blame for the fight not happenng this year, no point on talking about who's ducking who....EVERYBODY and their mom and their mom's mom knows that Floyd didn't want to fight this year. I'm new to boxing and only watched a few fights from the last 4-5 years so I'm learning everytime somebody schools you guys on boxing...only difference is it's easier for me to take in and understand what's written in front of me hahaha. You and Tony keep going backwards and it's just a waste of time if I joined in haha

@206, I feel sorry for you. I lost count on how many times you've posted the same posts in multiple threads about Pac/Floyd and these fools STILL can't understand anything hahaha. I swear ive seen you and Tony talk about certain subjects 3-4 different times haha
 
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@bigface-Hahaha join in? No thanks. this stuff has already been talked about and discussed MANY times before. I just like coming in here to read boxing news and read other peoples views/opinions on certain things but it just amazes me how many times 206 has to school some of y'all one, two, three, four, five...ten...twenty times on the SAME OL subject. Really no point of talking about the first time Pac/Floyd tried negotiating, no point of talking about who's to blame for the fight not happenng this year, no point on talking about who's ducking who....EVERYBODY and their mom and their mom's mom knows that Floyd didn't want to fight this year. I'm new to boxing and only watched a few fights from the last 4-5 years so I'm learning everytime somebody schools you guys on boxing...only difference is it's easier for me to take in and understand what's written in front of me hahaha. You and Tony keep going backwards and it's just a waste of time if I joined in haha

@206, I feel sorry for you. I lost count on how many times you've posted the same posts in multiple threads about Pac/Floyd and these fools STILL can't understand anything hahaha. I swear ive seen you and Tony talk about certain subjects 3-4 different times haha
this exact post applies to my point of view as a new fan to the sport, reading through these threads. dead-on.

i've watched mma since like 98', but just getting into this boxing shit..
 
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This is craziness. Cotto swallowed Randall Bailey's right hand several hand and still put him away (look up Bailey if you want to see how hard he can punch), stopped Chop Chop when plenty other great fighters couldn't, beat undefeated Ricardo Torres who went on to become a champion in the division, crushed undefeated Carlos Quintana who went on to beat Paul Williams, broke Malignaggi's face, broke down Zab Judah, outboxed Mosley & toughed it out against Clottey.

Cotto is no hype job. He was hyped and just so happened to be extremely good.
 
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This is craziness. Cotto swallowed Randall Bailey's right hand several times and still put him away (look up Bailey if you want to see how hard he can punch), stopped Chop Chop when plenty other great fighters couldn't, beat undefeated Ricardo Torres who went on to become a champion in the division, crushed undefeated Carlos Quintana who went on to beat Paul Williams, broke Malignaggi's face, broke down Zab Judah, outboxed Mosley & toughed it out against Clottey.

Cotto is no hype job. He was hyped and just so happened to be extremely good.
 
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LMAO @ tony still tryin!

It's ok though, tony is like my opposite evil brother from a different mother. I'm smart he's mentally handicapped. I'm tall he's short. I'm handsome he has a fetus growing out of his forehead. You know it's ok, I'm cool with it! When you deal with special people sometimes you got to say the same thing a couple times or a hundred.

btw I'm going to fuck you up in madden comrade