Top Rank & Golden Boy agree to all terms - the fight is in floyds hands
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I hear you bro but Team Floyd and Golden Boy wants to know who was he been negotiating with on Floyd's behalf. They've pretty much confirmed it wasn't Al Haymon and Greenburg hasn't said it was Al. I think it was Oscar (without Team Floyd's approval) if anyone was negotiating. Since he was the one who admitted that there had been talks and the fight was almost finalized.
Oscar doesn't negotiate man he's just the name and the public mouthpiece for golden boy. All work is done by Schaefer.
It was Al haymon man, there is no one else. Clearly Floyd/Golden boy are lying to save face. I actually feel a little bit bad for Oscar & Schaefer because they were put into this horrible situation by floyd and they have to protect their client and like I mentioned, Golden Boy really doesn't have any big names, they will bow down to anything floyd says because they feel they have to.
It was Al haymon man, there is no one else. Clearly Floyd/Golden boy are lying to save face. I actually feel a little bit bad for Oscar & Schaefer because they were put into this horrible situation by floyd and they have to protect their client and like I mentioned, Golden Boy really doesn't have any big names, they will bow down to anything floyd says because they feel they have to.
You guys are putting way too many pieces in the puzzle.
Promoters, HBO, legal advisers, team this, team that.
What the hell is team Floyd anyways?
In regards of actually making the fight it all boils down to Floyd Mayweather Jr., the man himself. The rest is smoke and mirrors...
He didn't want to fight him earlier this year.
He doesn't want to fight him in October.
He doesn't want to fight, whether it be now, later, never, who knows. Right now, he doesn't want it. You can point fingers in all sorts of directions but it all boils down to the same guy.
Promoters, HBO, legal advisers, team this, team that.
What the hell is team Floyd anyways?
In regards of actually making the fight it all boils down to Floyd Mayweather Jr., the man himself. The rest is smoke and mirrors...
He didn't want to fight him earlier this year.
He doesn't want to fight him in October.
He doesn't want to fight, whether it be now, later, never, who knows. Right now, he doesn't want it. You can point fingers in all sorts of directions but it all boils down to the same guy.
Floyd was ready to fight Pac in March 2010, negotiations failed because Pac didn't wanna blood test 2 weeks before they got in the ring. His excuses were it made him feel weaker and he didn't want to give in to Floyd's demands. Plus his feelings got hurt because the Mayweather's think he's using PED's. Pacquiao bitched out (while his team sold more wolf tickets than their PPV numbers against Clottey) instead of taking care of Mayweather in the ring.
So in came Mosely who talked all that shit and ended up taking the ass whoopin Pacquiao was going to receive.
So in came Mosely who talked all that shit and ended up taking the ass whoopin Pacquiao was going to receive.
Floyds Negotiations
"I want this"
>OK
"I want this"
>OK
"I want this"
>OK
"I want this"
>OK
"I want this"
>OK
"I want this"
>Well, that's a little close. Let's compromise. How about 24 days. Is that OK?
"Oh hell no!!! You can totally do a bunch of steroids in 10 days. Fuck that, this shit is OFF!!!" *runs*
"I want this"
>OK
"I want this"
>OK
"I want this"
>OK
"I want this"
>OK
"I want this"
>OK
"I want this"
>Well, that's a little close. Let's compromise. How about 24 days. Is that OK?
"Oh hell no!!! You can totally do a bunch of steroids in 10 days. Fuck that, this shit is OFF!!!" *runs*
I don't know Manny personally but I seriously doubt he cares about what Floyd says or getting his ass whooped. He probably doesn't even understand what Floyd is saying without a translator. He talks way too quick and throws in too much slang for Manny to get it.
I seriously doubt he is worried about getting his ass whooped as well. He's a fighter, he fights. You swear he goes to bed at night like "Oh man, I really don't want Floyd to whoop my ass".
I seriously doubt he is worried about getting his ass whooped as well. He's a fighter, he fights. You swear he goes to bed at night like "Oh man, I really don't want Floyd to whoop my ass".
This guy is a complete MORON, what part of Floyd doesn't want to fight don't you understand. Shit came out of his own damn mouth. Quite dickriding so hard. It makes you look bad.
Mayweather exposed as chicken
By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports
Jul 27, 11:38 pm EDT
You can follow Kevin Iole on Twitter at @KevinI
HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg released a four-paragraph, five-sentence statement Monday which cast doubt upon the veracity of Floyd Mayweather Jr.; Mayweather’s best friend, Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe; Golden Boy Promotions president Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer and which forever eliminated any doubt about Mayweather’s intention: He’s ducking Manny Pacquiao.
There can be no other rational explanation.
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Welcome to “Mayweather in Wonderland,” where they try to convince you that up is down, the grass is blue and the sky is green. Never mind that Mayweather has tarnished, perhaps forever, his legacy as one of the best boxers of all time. Given his disinclination to fight Pacquiao, it’s hard to regard him as the best fighter of his own time.
Mayweather was nowhere to be found on Monday, still on vacation, apparently oblivious to the millions of boxing fans desperate to hear a word about his intentions. If Mayweather cared about his legacy, if he cared about the sport that has made him rich and famous, he wouldn’t have been invisible the last few weeks while allowing Ellerbe to spew a lot of mumbo jumbo.
Mayweather and his cronies attempted to insinuate that Top Rank chairman Bob Arum was being deceitful when he said he’d been negotiating for a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight with Greenburg serving as the middle man. Greenburg and Arum have not had the strongest of relationships, while Greenburg has an extraordinarily cozy relationship with Golden Boy. If Arum were lying, their frequently contentious history together suggests that Greenburg would have called him on it immediately.
Greenburg, though, clearly sided with Arum, when he said, in part, “I had been negotiating with a representative from each side since May 2nd … “
That’s what Arum, who promotes Pacquiao, has steadfastly claimed for weeks. On June 30, Arum told Yahoo! Sports that “all issues were resolved” and that the only outstanding matter was whether Mayweather wanted to fight in 2010 or 2011. Arum then set a July 16, 11:59 p.m. deadline on Mayweather to accept the deal. On a conference call in the early morning hours of July 17, Arum announced the deadline had passed without word from Mayweather and that he was pursuing a fight for Pacquiao with either Antonio Margarito or Miguel Cotto.
Ellerbe, though, released a statement on July 19 that was the beginning of the end for Team Mayweather’s credibility. Ellerbe disputed that talks had even taken place. “Here are the facts,” the statement read. “Al Haymon, Richard Schaefer and myself speak to each other on a regular basis and the truth is no negotiations have ever taken place nor was there ever a deal agreed upon by Team Mayweather or Floyd Mayweather to fight Manny Pacquiao on November 13. Either Ross Greenburg or Bob Arum is not telling the truth, but history tells us who is lying.”
That led many in the media to quickly assail Arum’s credibility and for Schaefer and De La Hoya to issue self-righteous comments backing Ellerbe and denying negotiations had ever taken place.
And they would have won this silly game had it ended there and had Greenburg not entered the fray. Arum insisted he was telling the truth, but few seemed to believe him. They didn’t, that is, until Greenburg released his brief, simple, but truly remarkable statement.
In it, he said, “Fights like Mayweather vs. Pacquiao are significant because of these fighters’ ability to connect with sports fans around the world. It’s unfortunate that it won’t happen in 2010. I had been negotiating with a representative from each side since May 2nd, carefully trying to put the fight together. Hopefully, someday this fight will happen. Sports fans deserve it.”
Here’s what sports fans deserve: They deserve better than to waste their hard-earned money on “Money,” who acts as if he’s invented the sport. Mayweather’s a brilliant talent who never seems to let one forget it, who behaves as if he should be able to dictate terms and others should gratefully accept it because he said so.
Let him play in his fantasy world. Boxing doesn’t need him. And, truth be told, he’s wrong about his value.
Mayweather has sold more pay-per-views against common opponents than Pacquiao and his gates for those fights have been bigger. But Pacquiao’s Nov. 14 bout with Cotto at the MGM had a far greater economic impact upon the city of Las Vegas than either of Mayweather’s and the Nevada Gaming Control Board attributed casinos’ best performance in 22 months in November 2009 to the presence of the Pacquiao-Cotto bout and the high-rolling Asian gamblers who spent loads of money.
Despite apparently being caught red-handed when Greenburg released his statement, Ellerbe’s only response on the record was, “I hear his statement and I stand by my statement.” But he then attempted to insinuate that comments Mayweather made at a June 2 Make-a-Wish event in Las Vegas should have been taken by the media that he never planned to fight Pacquiao this year.
“At this particular time, Floyd Mayweather is taking probably a year off, a couple of years off from the sport of boxing,” Mayweather said at the charity event. “I don’t really know what the future holds for Floyd Mayweather at this particular time, but I’ll probably take a couple of years off.”
Saying one “probably” is going to take a year off is a lot different than releasing a statement or holding a media conference and announcing one’s retirement. Yet, Ellerbe attempted to intimate that Mayweather’s statement to sports director Chris Maathuis of KLAS-TV in his gym at a charity event was a definitive announcement.
What muddied the waters even more was De La Hoya apparently lying to Univision on June 11. In a televised Spanish-language interview, De La Hoya said of a potential Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, “I think right now we are very, very close in finalizing the contracts. I can’t talk right now in detail about the negotiations but I will say that we are very close.”
The comments caused quite a stir when they were made, but Schaefer dismissed them. He insisted De La Hoya had been misquoted. But when those pesky reporters actually went and had Spanish experts translate the recording, it turned out that De La Hoya wasn’t misquoted.
So the Golden Boy tried a different tactic on Monday. He told Robert Morales of BoxingScene.com, “I think I said it because I get the question so many times that, obviously, I was fed up and tired of it and I just said like, ‘Yeah, yeah, it’s gonna get made.’ ”
Essentially, De La Hoya on Monday admitted to lying on June 11, though it’s uncertain how his June 11 comments would have helped end the questioning he wanted to avoid. Given that he said a deal was close, that would only seem to make the scrutiny greater, no lesser. Had he said there were no talks – which he’s now insisting is the truth – and that the fight was not going to happen, no one would have had reason to keep asking him.
No one is going to ask any more. How can anyone support someone with Mayweather’s arrogance, who cares so little about the fans who made him rich beyond his wildest dreams that he won’t even consider the fight they want more than any other?
Mayweather has run from his biggest challenge. The fans, even those who have ardently supported him through the years, will surely remember that. And the next time he dares to compare himself to one of boxing’s all-time greats, such as Sugar Ray Robinson or Sugar Ray Leonard, they’ll scoff.
He can’t hold a candle to either.
^ It just shows you that it doesn't take very long to see the ignorance in your posts Tony.
I don't think he was insulting you as much as he was just pointing out the obvious. You're blindly defending Mayweather, when its clear now, that he doesn't want the fight. I'm starting to think you're Leonard Ellerbee.
I don't think he was insulting you as much as he was just pointing out the obvious. You're blindly defending Mayweather, when its clear now, that he doesn't want the fight. I'm starting to think you're Leonard Ellerbee.
It just shows nothing!
Floyd doesn't want any fight this year not "The Fight with Pacman".... y'all act like Floyd is really scared of Pacman or something. Pacquiao ain't all that.... I'm not blindly defending Floyd..... I'm calling it like I see it. They said he was scared of Mosely too and we see how that turned out.
Floyd doesn't want any fight this year not "The Fight with Pacman".... y'all act like Floyd is really scared of Pacman or something. Pacquiao ain't all that.... I'm not blindly defending Floyd..... I'm calling it like I see it. They said he was scared of Mosely too and we see how that turned out.
Tony, are you really defending his decision not to give the fans, the people who made him "Philthy Rich", what they all want to see?
I don't care what you say about his reason for not taking the fight now, the point is...the longer this gets put off, the less likely it is that it will ever happen.
I can't believe someone who considers themself a boxing fan is accepting anything BUT the fight going down. SMH.
I don't care what you say about his reason for not taking the fight now, the point is...the longer this gets put off, the less likely it is that it will ever happen.
I can't believe someone who considers themself a boxing fan is accepting anything BUT the fight going down. SMH.
I want to see the fight as bad as you do bro. I'm disappointed that the fight ain't happening (this year) too. Pac fans are blaming Floyd, and the Floyd fans are blaming Pac. But to blame Floyd and say he's ducking Pacquiao and using random blood testing as a way out is crazy. They (the Mayweather's) really think he's juicing so it's on Pac to prove that he's not juicing if they really want the fight to go down.
Even you admitted you would have taken the test, I think most of us would have even though it would have been a pain. I sided with Pac when Floyd was asking to get tested all the way up until the day of the fight. Who wants blood drawn right before fighting? But then I sided with Floyd, when Floyd was willing to agree to the 14-day cut off.
It's not hard to understand mayne.
Even you admitted you would have taken the test, I think most of us would have even though it would have been a pain. I sided with Pac when Floyd was asking to get tested all the way up until the day of the fight. Who wants blood drawn right before fighting? But then I sided with Floyd, when Floyd was willing to agree to the 14-day cut off.
It's not hard to understand mayne.
tony why are you talking about drug testing? That wasn't the issue man the issue and the sole reason this fight isn't happening this year is because floyd doesn't want to fight. Period. There is no debate there - floyd is on vacation or whatever he's doing and that's why the fight isn't happening.
Pac agreed to all the drug tests you're going backwards yet again
Pac agreed to all the drug tests you're going backwards yet again