Top Rank & Golden Boy agree to all terms - the fight is in floyds hands

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Tony

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No I don't.... I call it like I see it bro. I don't think any negotiations took place. I believe Arum may have attempted to get the fight set up through Greenburg but Team Floyd never got back at him. I seriously believe that if they did negotiate then they would be fighting in November.
 
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really tony? so before you were echoing what Floyd said which is he's on vacation. Now you believe that Arum attempted to get the fight set up through Greenburg, but Team floyd never got back at him. Hmm. Why would floyd never get back to him, over a 2 month period, for a $50-$60 MILLION DOLLAR fight?!? wow

Floyd and co have tried to tell everyone that up is down, left is right and the sky is not blue. Fortunately only a few people are dumb enough to believe them!
 

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really tony? so before you were echoing what Floyd said which is he's on vacation. Now you believe that Arum attempted to get the fight set up through Greenburg, but Team floyd never got back at him. Hmm. Why would floyd never get back to him, over a 2 month period, for a $50-$60 MILLION DOLLAR fight?!? wow

Floyd and co have tried to tell everyone that up is down, left is right and the sky is not blue. Fortunately only a few people are dumb enough to believe them!
Man Floyd is on vacation..... he ain't worried about Arum and his little games. And to answer your question... didn't you just post something from Floyd Sr. stating that if Floyd fought this year he'd pretty much be giving up the money he made from fighting Shane?

Floyd ain't trippin'. Pacquiao is going to get his ass whooped by Floyd next year, so you and your buds can keep believing he's scared of Pacquiao.
 
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then just admit that FLOYD KILLED THIS FIGHT. Bob Arum/Pacquiao/Al Hayon/Greenburg/the fans all wanted the fight to happen. Floyd doesn't, that's it.

Yes, I posted Floyd Sr. as a possible excuse as to why he doesn't fight this year but the tax bracket is all the same if you make over 1 million dollars in a year or 100 million dollars in a year. In fact taxes could be a little worse for rich people next year.
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgxnL1iNFBY&feature=player_embedded

Floyd didn't kill the fight. He was willing to fight Pac with the blood test.... Pac didn't want to take the blood test so he fought Shane (who agreed to get his blood tested) and whooped Shane's ass. I got this from a boxing website.... Floyd said he only fights once a year because a Floyd fight is like the SuperBowl. Peep the end of the video.... he said it himself, he only fights once a year.

Floyd is a beast! He said Pacquiao can get it too..... It's going to happen.
 
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wow tony now you're going backwards again.

And you call floyd a "Beast" by only wanting to fight once a year? What type of bitch shit is that? That's not an all time great, that's not a beast. That's pussy shit and you know it. Part time ass fighter, worse then De la Hoya!

And a big LOL at "pacquiao can get it too" oh yeah like when? 2013??

Man, maywether has become so horrible for boxing. This is the type of mentality people should endorse? Hell no, dana is is right no one should support floyd's ppv's anymore.
 

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He has his reason(s) for only fighting once a year. I'll have my ppv scratch ready for the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight (assuming the real "negotiations" get worked out). Until then I'll wait to hear from Team Mayweather in regards to when Mayweather is going to fight again.

He'll be back....
 
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Arum, Schaefer War of Words Continues: Legal Battle

By Robert Morales

The war of words have continued between promotional rivals Bob Arum, CEO of Top Rank, and Richard Schaefer, CEO for Golden Boy Promotions.

For the last few months, Arum told numerous press members that his company was negotiating a deal to make a Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao fight in November. On July 16, Arum held a telephone conference with the press to announce Mayweather's failure to meet a mid-July deadline to accept a proposal to face Pacquiao.

The situation began to escalate when Mayweather's adviser, Leonard Ellerbe, issued a statement on July 19, stating that Mayweather, and manager Al Haymon, were never involved in any negotiations for a November fight with Pacquiao.

"Here are the facts," Ellerbe wrote. "Al Haymon, Richard Schaefer and myself speak to each other on a regular basis and the truth is no negotiations have ever taken place nor was there ever a deal agreed upon by Team Mayweather or Floyd Mayweather to fight Manny Pacquiao on November 13. Either Ross Greenburg or Bob Arum is not telling the truth, but history tells us who is lying."

According to Arum, he never spoke to any member of Mayweather's team directly. Arum says HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg handled the negotiations between him and Haymon for the last two months. Arum's version of the events received a major boost on Monday when Greenburg issued a statement confirming his intermediary role in the Mayweather-Pacquiao negotiations, but more importantly his statement acknowledged that there were ongoing negotiations since the month of May.

“Fights like Mayweather vs. Pacquiao are significant because of these fighters’ ability to connect with sports fans around the world. It’s unfortunate that it won’t happen in 2010. I had been negotiating with a representative from each side since May 2nd, carefully trying to put the fight together. Hopefully, someday this fight will happen. Sports fans deserve it.” Greenburg said.

Greenburg never named the representatives involved, and Schaefer is demanding to know the name of the individual Greenburg was negotiating with on behalf of Mayweather. Schaefer, Ellerbe, Haymon and Golden Boy president Oscar De La Hoya have continued to dispute the existence of these negotiations.

During a Tuesday Los Angeles press conference to announce Juan Manuel Lopez vs. Rafael Marquez, Arum ripped De La Hoya over the comments he made to Univision reporters back in June, and for De La Hoya's explanation on why those comments were made.

When De La Hoya made the televised Univision appearance, he said "... we are very, very close in finalizing the contracts [for a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight]." De La Hoya was responding to questions from Univision's reporters who were inquiring about the status of making a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight.

When De La Hoya spoke to BoxingScene.com a few days ago at the Fortune Gym in Hollywood, he explained why those comments were made.

"I think I said it because I get the question asked so many times that, obviously, I was fed up and tired of it and I just said like, yeah, yeah, it's gonna get made. So it was a quick answer that I should have obviously thought about. But, obviously, negotiations weren't going on. Nothing was going on," De La Hoya.

Arum, speaking to BoxingScene on Tuesday, had choice words for both De La Hoya and Schaefer.

"Very sad. For him to say something like that really demeans himself. Who's he kidding? The statements from Univision were lengthy statements; they weren't just off-handed quotes. ... I really feel sorry for him," Arum told BoxingScene.com.

"He's not a bright kid and he's in over his head and he's looking to Schaefer, who really doesn't understand journalism in this country; you may equivocate, you may evade, but you never lie to a newspaper guy. Because once you lie, you're dead. They're not going to believe anything you say."

Schaefer shot right back at Arum's comments. And Schaefer also made it clear, he's starting to get tired of being called a "liar" - and if the accusations continue - he plans to get his lawyer involved. As reported several days ago, Schaefer is willing to challenge any of the parties to take a lie detector test.

"It is really laughable that is coming from somebody like Bob Arum, whose famous comment is, `Yesterday I was lying, today I'm telling the truth,"' Schaefer said. "This is laughable, a joke. "Again, Bob Arum calling me a liar-you are not the first reporter to tell me that-is something I'm going to refer to my attorney."
 
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Golden Boy not only are making themselves look bad, but they are also playing a dangerous game with HBO by going against Greenburg.

Golden Boy is nearly out of star power and they don't have too many bright prospects. Think about it - Oscar is retired, Hopkins is one fight away from being retired and he isn't a draw anymore, JMM is 1-3 fights from being retired, etc., they represent Floyd and that's it.

HBO is already rethinking their alliance with Golden Boy and they very well may break away from their current model real soon. Other promoters are willing to do a lot more for a lot less trouble.
 

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Clearly it was Al Haymon
Greenburg never named the representatives involved, and Schaefer is demanding to know the name of the individual Greenburg was negotiating with on behalf of Mayweather. Schaefer, Ellerbe, Haymon and Golden Boy president Oscar De La Hoya have continued to dispute the existence of these negotiations.

As reported several days ago, Schaefer is willing to challenge any of the parties to take a lie detector test.
LMFAO.... We know how Arum and Team Pacquiao feels about them test(s). So since they dodged the Olympic Style drug testing will they dodge a lie detector test too?
 

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Al Haymon has NEVER disputed anything. Try to find him quoted anywhere.
Well then why did you say it was clearly Al Haymon that Greenburg was negotiating with? When Al Haymon hasn't been quoted and Greenburg didn't say it was Al Haymon he was negotiating with? Greenburg said it was a representative but won't say who it was.

Wonder why?
 
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Process of elimination tony. Who else was it? Oscar? Nope, he's a figurehead and mouthpiece nothing more. Ellerbe? Nope he's an adviser and mouthpiece for floyd. That leaves two people - Haymon and Schaefer. If it wasn't Schaefer, it was Haymon, who again, is the most important person in this puzzle.

Greenburg didn't have to say it was Haymon becaue Greenburg was co-signing what Arum already told us.

I find it funny that you're siding with Team Floyd when the most respectable person here, who has no ties to anyone, is Greenburg. His word should be trusted in this madness.