**The Official SF Giants Off-Season Thread**

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The one year contract bothers me regardless...I don't even want to give another team a shot to get him.

Plus...I agree....we need some young guys in here who can produce runs for us.

no other team has a chance to get him for years...he is under team control..... the only thing arbitration will detemine is salary for Linc
 

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im going to try and get the link, but one of these rumor sites said dye to play 1st and vlad g. to play left field for the g men next year. no clue if its true. and while hitting would be a plus, defense would struggle!
 
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We're a team that was rebuilt around pitching.. so no trading timmy or cain. That's our future, it's like raising your own kid then just giving him away.

Cain was developed thru our system. Him and timmy stay.

Offense will come thru money or other team trades 3 way 4 way etc. Just like Dodgers did with Manny.
 
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im going to try and get the link, but one of these rumor sites said dye to play 1st and vlad g. to play left field for the g men next year. no clue if its true. and while hitting would be a plus, defense would struggle!
As much as I would like to see that happen, I'd bet my life it wouldn't. Sabean is too much of a jew
 

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BA just released their Top-10 prospect list:

1. Buster Posey, c
2. Madison Bumgarner, lhp
3. Zack Wheeler, rhp
4. Thomas Neal, of
5. Dan Runzler, lhp
6. Tommy Joseph, c
7. Roger Kieschnick, of
8. Ehire Adrianza, ss
9. Brandon Crawford, ss
10. Francisco Peguero, of
It's a great list, the only part I really don't agree on is Adrianza over Crawford (who WILL be our SS of the future, IMO)...
 

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Giants do not offer arbitration to Molina or any of their other free agents

Posted by Andrew Baggarly on December 1st, 2009 at 8:57 pm

The Giants did not offer arbitration to any of their free agents, including Type A catcher Bengie Molina, I’ve just been told. While this doesn’t mean the organization is cutting ties with Molina, it’s clear that GM Brian Sabean didn’t want his cleanup hitter back on a one-year contract. Molina would’ve commanded a raise from his $6 million salary last season. The Giants apparently feel that money can be better spent.

Randy Winn and Bob Howry were the Giants’ Type B free agents. The Giants won’t get any draft-pick compensation if Molina, Winn and/or Howry sign with other clubs.

Brad Penny is among their other free agents and the Giants would like to re-sign him, but for far less than he’d earn in front of an arbitration panel.

Really, Molina was the only fence-sitting decision of the day.

Earlier this offseason, Sabean said he was relatively sure another club would offer Molina a multiyear contract. It was widely assumed the Mets would be that team. And if that were true, it behooved the Giants to offer arbitration in order to get draft compensation. But reports out of New York in recent days had the Mets scouring the trade market for a catching alternative to Molina. This could’ve been a well-timed leak by Mets officials, scaring the Giants into declining to offer Molina arbitration and thus saving forfeiture of a draft pick — likely their second rounder.

In the past, the arbitration tender deadline was a “cutting ties” date. If a team declined arbitration to its own free agent, it couldn’t negotiate a contract with that player any earlier than May 1. But that provision is no longer part of the CBA. Still, the Molina move is a pretty clear sign that someone else — Buster Posey? Yorvit Torrealba? Bill Hayes? — will be behind the plate for the Giants on opening day.
Interesting move...
 

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^^^yeah that is interesting...we'll have to see what happens, maybe they'll be able to re-sign for less than what he woulda got thru arbitration. also, they must be joking about Bill Hayes, hes their 52 year old bullpen catcher
 

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Inbox: Is Posey the next Mauer?

Beat reporter Chris Haft answers questions from fans

this dude cracked me up,

I see the Giants in a similar position as another team just a few years back regarding their catching situation. The team: the Minnesota Twins. The up-and-coming catcher: Joe Mauer. The Twins were so confident in Mauer at the time that they traded their incumbent, who unfortunately was A.J. Pierzynski. We know how things turned out for both teams. How does Buster Posey compare to Mauer at similar points in their career? Any chance Posey will become as good and talented as Mauer?
-- Dan K., San Francisco



If Posey merely approaches Mauer's skill level, he could become the Giants' best catcher in their San Francisco history. Posey might not be as much of a "can't-miss" prospect as Mauer was, but he's close. The catcher I've heard most frequently likened to Posey is Atlanta's Brian McCann, who's not as stellar as Mauer but is still very good. Four All-Star selections and three Silver Slugger awards in the last four years attest to that. I think the occupants of the Giants' front office would celebrate with a rum and Coke -- using a rum jug to match the size of the Coke bottle in AT&T Park's left field -- if Posey turns out to be as good as McCann.

Since the Yankees have made Nick Swisher available for a trade, do you think the Giants will look into acquiring him? Swisher could supply some much-needed pop and split his time between first base and the outfield, thereby allowing Travis Ishikawa and Nate Schierholtz to continue their development. Wouldn't Swisher be a nice fit?
-- Keith W., Los Angeles


You can't be sure about those rumors of a Swisher trade, and it's debatable whether the Giants would want him. But that thwacking noise you hear is the sound of me patting myself on the back. Last Jan. 8, I devoted several hundred words toward explaining why Swisher would be a solid fit for the Giants due to his offensive productivity, plate discipline, defensive flexibility and intangibles. But the day Brian Sabean relies on my player personnel advice will be the day when the FDA declares garlic fries an essential part of a nutritious diet.

What do you think about the Giants signing Ivan Rodriguez? He would be cheap and can still defend. He should be a great mentor for Posey.
-- Aaron T., Los Gatos, Calif.


Rodriguez might indeed serve as an excellent mentor to Posey. But the Giants don't need a 38-year-old who hit .249 with 10 home runs, 18 walks and a .663 OPS (on-base plus slugging percentage) in 448 plate appearances last season.

If we are looking for a quality veteran catcher who isn't going to cost too much, why not Henry Blanco? This guy is great on defense and could help Posey a lot. He made only $750,000 last year with the Padres. He would be a lot cheaper than Rodriguez.
-- Sean R., Sacramento, Calif.

Now you're talking. Blanco isn't an offensive powerhouse, but he's a widely respected receiver and would provide an excellent complement to Posey if the Giants wanted to ease the rookie into a regular role. But when I spoke last week with Blanco's agent, Steve Schneider, he said that the Giants hadn't contacted him.

Was Pablo Sandoval considered a "rookie" for the 2009 season? If so, I do not understand how he was not selected as Rookie of the Year.
-- Peter L., San Bruno, Calif.


Sandoval accumulated 145 at-bats in 2008, exceeding the rookie minimum by 15.

What is to become of Fred Lewis? With Nate Schierholtz, John Bowker, Eugenio Velez, Andres Torres, Aaron Rowand and possibly a free-agent outfielder, there seems to be no place for him. He isn't a good fit for the bench either, due to his defense.
-- Stephen S., Selma, Calif.


I'm sure the Giants are trying hard to trade Lewis. Either they can't find a good deal or he's not a highly sought commodity. The Giants could decline to tender Lewis a contract, but it's more likely that they'll bring him to Spring Training and hope that he plays impressively enough to prompt a trade. If another team doesn't want him and he indeed doesn't fit in the Giants' outfield, they'll have no choice but to release him.

When are they going to film a Giants movie at AT&T Park?
-- Randy M., Red Bluff, Calif.


After they win a World Series. It's going to be called "2012." Wishful thinking, huh?
 
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Resigned Sabean for nothing, we're already worse than last season.

I cant fuckin wait til the day the whole front office realizes after they replace Sabean with someone smarter that they shouldve done that long ago....
 
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Meanwhile, the Rockies have also apparently told free agent lefty Noah Lowry(notes) that they'd love to have him on the roster even though he hasn't played since 2007 when he was with the San Francisco Giants and won 14 of the 26 games he started.