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just some observations from the game today......

We actually looked prepared today, if we go and punch it in the endzone in the second half instead of the interception of the hands of Jackson, we win.

The defense had about 12 penalties on their own. Sanchez kept getting on the hard count, thats unacceptable.They teach you to play the ball in pop warner. Some of the calls by the officials were HORRIBLE. The ghost PI on Jammer in the 4h qtr pretty much sealed the game. Its amazing how much the game changes for us when Gates is in on offense and involved. Im also noticing the same thing when Floyd is not in, I think he missed the whole second half.
Antoine Cason got used the whole game, and yet no adjustment there. i wouldve switched Jammer on him. Or even benched Cason and put the rookie Gilchrist in there....Send a message

i really dont know what else to say, these are the types of games we always find a way to lose. The jets adjusted at half time and well we didnt.......
 
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just some observations from the game today......

We actually looked prepared today, if we go and punch it in the endzone in the second half instead of the interception of the hands of Jackson, we win.

The defense had about 12 penalties on their own. Sanchez kept getting on the hard count, thats unacceptable.They teach you to play the ball in pop warner. Some of the calls by the officials were HORRIBLE. The ghost PI on Jammer in the 4h qtr pretty much sealed the game. Its amazing how much the game changes for us when Gates is in on offense and involved. Im also noticing the same thing when Floyd is not in, I think he missed the whole second half.
Antoine Cason got used the whole game, and yet no adjustment there. i wouldve switched Jammer on him. Or even benched Cason and put the rookie Gilchrist in there....

i really dont know what else to say, these are the types of games we always find a way to lose. The jets adjusted at half time and well we didnt.......
Revis and VJ were going at it... Revis was handling his business... But Rivers kept throwing to his side... Finally, #24 got busy...
 
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I'm over the loss, time for the Chargers to put it behind them and focus on next weeks game.

At the end of the day, we're 4-2 and that's exactly what I thought our record would be at this point when I went through the schedule at the beginning of the year. I just thought we would be playing better football though. Not too late at all to get it going. I mean, we ALWAYS start slow, it's just this year, we've won a few games that we would have lost in the past. We played a solid half of football yesterday, that's better than playing a shitty game all day. We need to improve on nearly all aspects of the game, but it's not over.

Man, I was so high on Goodman as a returner when I saw him last pre-season, but we need to make a change there. He trips over his own 2 feet all the time, and just seems like he has no vision of the field. Crayton needs to pull his head out of his ass and stop making rookie mistakes like fair catching balls inside the 5. Cason needs to have a good game or he might get benched in favor of Gilchrist. Still waiting for Luiget to do something (I know he might take time, but I don't even think I've seen him make a tackle). Butler is playing SOLID. Larry English needs to prove he's even worth a spot on the roster. Floyd needs to actually play a full game for once. Rivers, get it together. Norv, please work on that 2 minute drill.

Another positive, Gates said he only feels normal soreness that he would after a game, so that's a plus.
 
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I'm over the loss, time for the Chargers to put it behind them and focus on next weeks game.

At the end of the day, we're 4-2 and that's exactly what I thought our record would be at this point when I went through the schedule at the beginning of the year. I just thought we would be playing better football though. Not too late at all to get it going. I mean, we ALWAYS start slow, it's just this year, we've won a few games that we would have lost in the past. We played a solid half of football yesterday, that's better than playing a shitty game all day. We need to improve on nearly all aspects of the game, but it's not over.

Man, I was so high on Goodman as a returner when I saw him last pre-season, but we need to make a change there. He trips over his own 2 feet all the time, and just seems like he has no vision of the field. Crayton needs to pull his head out of his ass and stop making rookie mistakes like fair catching balls inside the 5. Cason needs to have a good game or he might get benched in favor of Gilchrist. Still waiting for Luiget to do something (I know he might take time, but I don't even think I've seen him make a tackle). Butler is playing SOLID. Larry English needs to prove he's even worth a spot on the roster. Floyd needs to actually play a full game for once. Rivers, get it together. Norv, please work on that 2 minute drill.

Another positive, Gates said he only feels normal soreness that he would after a game, so that's a plus.
Cason got LIT up yesterday...! Bowe this week... Jammer will prolly have him... But I hope they don't leave Cason out there man to man...
 
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Cason got LIT up yesterday...! Bowe & McCluster this week... Hope they don't leave him out there man to man...
Yeah he did. I'm gonna partly blame Manusky on that last TD though. I was telling my girl the whole time, "they're gonna run the ball up the middle with Greene on this play, next play (3rd down), they're going to Burress". Didn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out and Burress should have been double teamed on that play. Still, he zipped right by Cason at the line of scrimmage and was wide open over the top. Was such a bad match-up though. Was thinking Jammer might have been the better option since he's more physical. Oh well. He needs to bounce back this week.

Fucking Cromartie lol. Talking shit about how San Diego has never known how to finish games. Might be some truth to that, but funny HE mentions that after his non attempt to tackle Shonn Greene in the playoffs a few years back. Man, I hate that guy and wish him the worst lol.
 
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Cason's struggles mean change looming at corner

It was at this time last year that Antoine Cason got on a roll, locked down and finished with a run of success over the season’s final 10 games that compared to the best cornerbacks in the league.

It appears he might not get that chance this season.

“We’re going to address that,” head coach Norv Turner said Monday afternoon. “We don’t have to make that decision right now. We’re going to evaluate the two guys through the week.”

Given Cason’s performance this season, culminating with what happened in Sunday’s game, team sources said there is a strong chance Cason could be replaced by rookie Marcus Gilchrist -- either for the start of Monday night's game at Kansas City or at some point during that game.

However, there were indications that all those involved have not come together on a final decision about when or if the switch should be made. The Chargers will need Cason on Nov. 6 when the pass-happy Green Bay Packers come to San Diego, and there are concerns about further negating his confidence. And several people pointed out that Cason has been down before and come back to thrive.

This is not the first time Cason has had to fight for playing time, despite being the team’s first-round draft pick in 2008. In 2009, his job as the No.1 nickel back was taken away after six games. He played sparingly the rest of that season at cornerback before getting the job opposite Quentin Jammer to start the 2010 season.

Cason declined to comment Monday other than to say, “’09 is not going to happen again.”

All season, the Chargers have been monitoring Cason's inconsistent play and what they see as a steady decline in his confidence. Then came Sunday.

Cason was at least partially responsible for all three of the New York Jets' touchdowns in Sunday's 27-21 loss in New Jersey, as he played off big and physical receiver Plaxico Burress down near the end zone.

When coaches decided late in the game to remove Cason, multiple sources said, Cason resisted but eventually did come out.

“I’m not going to address that,” Turner said when asked about what transpired during the game. “We have an issue, obviously.”

Cason met with defensive coaches and with Turner on Monday to clear the air and discuss how everyone moves forward.

Cason said he has not been notified of any switch at the position.

According to sources, Cason was in jeopardy of losing playing time two weeks ago before having such an outstanding game against the Denver Broncos that he was awarded a game ball.

Entering Sunday’s game, Cason had allowed 17 receptions on 29 passes his way for 231 yards and two touchdowns. He has five passes broken up.

Cason led the Chargers with four interceptions and 17 passes broken up in 2010. The 51 percent completion rate against him was seventh-lowest among players who faced more than 90 passes. He also averaged 16.5 yards on 14 punt returns.

Cason finished 2010 especially strong. After allowing five of six passes his way to be caught Oct. 17 in St. Louis, the Chargers’ sixth game, he allowed just 28 receptions in 64 passes (43.7 percent) the rest of the season.

The Chargers expected this season that he would build on ‘10, possibly even putting himself in position to earn a lucrative contract extension with a strong showing.

Instead, the player the Chargers drafted in this year's second round, ostensibly to one day replace Jammer, is now poised to replace Cason more immediately.

Gilchrist started in place of the injured Jammer on Oct. 2 against Miami and had an interception and two pass breakups. He allowed five receptions on eight passes his direction for a total of 56 yards.
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We got Breaston who is finally comin along and Baldwin just now gettin in there too.
Yeah Breaston was looking good yesterday. Don't think the Chargers are overlooking the Chiefs, like the Raiders did. They know it's going to be a tough game. Playing in Kansas City, and on MNF, is always tough.

I think giving Rivers time to throw the ball is going to be the key this week. But shit, McNeil AND Dielman are banged up. That could be bad...
 
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Why can't the Chargers ever seem to put it together? They seem to underachieve and shoot themselves in the foot every year. I think that means Norv Turners a butt fucker.
I agree 110% every year i think this is the year the chargers will make a deep run in the post season but they always end up underachieving. The exception is this year. I think they're playing as well as the talent on their team allows them to. I mean look at their squad, no one fears that run game, seems like years ago since the last time the chargers had explosive backs like LT,Turner, and Sproles. Gates has been nothing like the hall of fame TE we have come to expect out of him on Sundays. Phillip Rivers the one consistent factor the chargers have had these last few years is oddly playing like a average QB, before this season started i was always quick to defend rivers as a top 3 QB in the league. Also to me SD always had a vicious Defense, now there LB's are nothing special and the secondary is average. The chargers are still my favorite to take the AFC west but think their super bowl window closed on them last season. Don't see them being able to hang with the elite of the AFC. Not saying they need to re build but they definitely need to add some upgrades at some key positions. Just my 2 cents, not a charger fan nor do i watch every charger game so i could be wrong.
 
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I agree 110% every year i think this is the year the chargers will make a deep run in the post season but they always end up underachieving. The exception is this year. I think they're playing as well as the talent on their team allows them to. I mean look at their squad, no one fears that run game, seems like years ago since the last time the chargers had explosive backs like LT,Turner, and Sproles. Gates has been nothing like the hall of fame TE we have come to expect out of him on Sundays. Phillip Rivers the one consistent factor the chargers have had these last few years is oddly playing like a average QB, before this season started i was always quick to defend rivers as a top 3 QB in the league. Also to me SD always had a vicious Defense, now there LB's are nothing special and the secondary is average. The chargers are still my favorite to take the AFC west but think their super bowl window closed on them last season. Don't see them being able to hang with the elite of the AFC. Not saying they need to re build but they definitely need to add some upgrades at some key positions. Just my 2 cents, not a charger fan nor do i watch every charger game so i could be wrong.
I agree with you on a lot of those things. But, our running game has been pretty solid this year and Mathews is really coming on. Him and Tolbert have been great catching balls out of the back field. Not quite as "explosive" as Sproles, but Mathews is averaging 12 yds per catch (24), Sproles highest ever in a season was 11.8. Gates hasn't been "Gates" because, well, Gates hasn't been playing. Our defense hasn't really had a "vicious" persona since the days of Wade Phillips as DC, but was good last year. Actually first in the NFL I believe, but sometimes stats lie. This year, they are struggling. Like I said earlier though, I think it's only a matter of time before Rivers gets it going.

But yeah, no doubt the last couple seasons have been disappointing but at the end of the day, only ONE team wins the Super Bowl.
 
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I agree with you on a lot of those things. But, our running game has been pretty solid this year and Mathews is really coming on and him and Tolbert have been great catching balls out of the back field. Not quite as "explosive" as Sproles, but Mathews is averaging 12 yds per catch (24), Sproles highest ever in a season was 11.8. Gates hasn't been "Gates" because, well, Gates hasn't been playing. Our defense hasn't really had a "vicious" persona since the days of Wade Phillips as DC, but was good last year. Actually first in the NFL I believe, but sometimes stats lie. This year, they are struggling. Like I said earlier though, I think it's only a matter of time before Rivers gets it going.
youre right matthews is above average he's been solid for you guys and since i don't follow the chargers very close tolbert has been a surprise to me. Still though years before i felt your running game could carry you to victories and dont feel that way this season. Also when i say your team has been weak or average i forget to state that a lot of that is due to injuries. I completely agree with the rivers comment to i dont see him being average for to long. He is in his prime and has way to much heart to go out like that this season. Wont be long before him, floyd, and jackson start rolling on all cylinders.