**The Official San Diego Chargers 2011 Season Thread**
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I'm not a "Norv hater" but I don't know what it is anymore. Then again, you could say even when we had Marty, he had the best Chargers team in the past couple decades, went 14-2, and got bounced in the first round of the playoffs at home against the Jets. Who knows what the hell it is anymore. I would love to have Gruden as a coach though and he's professed his love for the Chargers on several occasions. There have been a few times where he's sported a powder blue tie when the Chargers played on MNF.
I think this is Norv's make or break year. Our GM loves him though.
I think this is Norv's make or break year. Our GM loves him though.
That would cement eternal hatred for Chucky from the Raider Nation....correct me if I'm wrong, but y'all haven't had that good of a record since Marty, right? I know y'all had that big playoff win against Indy, but that's Norvs only playoff win, right? Not ment to come off hatefull, I just think Norv sucks. He's a decent OC but weak HC. I think Rex Ryan was right.
He's actually 45-25 as the Chargers head coach with 3 AFC West titles in 4 years....not bad at all. He just can't get the Chargers over that hump in the playoffs, something Marty couldn't do either. And he's just notorious for the slow starts. 3 playoff wins and 2 against the Colts when they had very good teams. His first year as head coach, lost the AFC Championship game against the Pats, who went undefeated that year til the Super Bowl and up until that game were considered by many as the best team in the history of the NFL. The next year against the Steelers, who would go on to win the Super Bowl, and then in 09 against the Jets who advanced to the AFC Championship game. So I mean when I look at those stats, they're kind of surprising. That's a pretty damn good résumé and not like they are losing playoff games against chump teams. Also, the first 2 playoff losses, we were without starting running back Ladainian Tomlinson and against the Pats, Rivers had surgery on his knee like 5 days before the game. BUT, injuries are a part of the game.
As far as Rex Ryan, he has no rings as a head coach either and he's had some SOLID teams in NY.
As far as Rex Ryan, he has no rings as a head coach either and he's had some SOLID teams in NY.
I like what Cro had to say..
but he's obviously jus hatin on sd!
LORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Rex Ryan had a simple response to grumblings coming from the San Diego Chargers in the wake of Sunday's 27-21 New York Jets victory. His players were a little more harsh.
"Stay classy, San Diego," said Ryan, referencing the character Ron Burgundy from the movie "Anchorman."
Kay: Rex Ryan - 10/24
Jets head coach Rex Ryan joins "The Michael Kay Show" to discuss Sunday's win and the team's slow start. He also responded to the Chargers claim that the officials took the game from them.
More Podcasts »
After his team didn't score in the second half and blew an 11-point lead, Chargers tight end Randy McMichael had said the Jets didn't deserve any credit, without being at all subtle.
"The San Diego Chargers beat ourselves, OK?" McMichael said. "It's all about us. We took our foot off the gas pedal, and we lost because of it. ... Their secondary isn't anything. It's our fault. It had nothing to do with anybody on their team. It's all about the guys in this locker room. We lost the game. They didn't do anything."
Ryan didn't address the substance of McMichael's complaints but he did praise his defensive backs, including Darrelle Revis, whose interception set up the go-ahead score for the Jets. Kyle Wilson's pick a few minutes later sealed the win.
Jets cornerback Antonio Cromartie was as subtle as McMichael, blasting the Chargers.
"Honestly, when you're up by 11 points in the fourth quarter and you can't even finish the game up?" the former Charger said. "That shows what kind of team you are -- a team that can't finish and that's been San Diego the whole time. There it is."
Week 8: Jets' bye
Gang Green will return to action Nov. 6 in Buffalo. Jets Center » Blog »
Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers was more diplomatic than his teammate. He felt his team let the win get away but also added: "The Jets had something to do with causing it to get away from us, certainly."
Jets safety Jim Leonhard cut McMichael some slack, saying it was natural for players to think that they were responsible for a win or loss based on their own actions. Revis, the anchor of the Jets secondary, did take his own shot at McMichael, though.
"We were focused on Antonio Gates," Revis said. "(McMichael) didn't do nothing exciting in the game. I could see if he had five touchdowns or four touchdowns. He didn't do nothing special. I mean, he knocked me out (of bounds) on the interception. He's McMichaels. That's what his last name says on his jersey."
Told that it's McMichael, Revis said: "McMichael, McMichaels. I don't pay attention. The only people I know are Philip Rivers, (Ryan) Mathews, Antonio Gates, Vincent Jackson and Malcolm Floyd. Those are the people we were focused on for this game. ... Whatever he said was bogus."
The Jets and San Diego could eventually settle it in a rematch, if both teams can make it to the AFC Championship. That is a long way off however, and Cromartie wasn't optimistic that the Chargers will make it.
"Let's see if they can win their (division), let's see if they can beat the Raiders first," Cromartie said.
There was some bad blood going into the game. Earlier in the week, Ryan inadvertently took a shot at San Diego coach Norv Turner by saying if he had been hired to coach San Diego instead of Turner, he'd have a "couple of rings" by now.
Ryan immediately called Turner to apologize and took it a step further Monday, vowing not to use a word that got him into trouble with Turner.
"I will no longer say the word 'rings' anymore," said Ryan, who also said in 2009 that he didn't come to New York to kiss Patriots coach Bill Belichick's rings.
"All that kind of stuff," he continued, "so I'm not going to use that word anymore. I get crushed every time I say it."
Ryan allowed that he would continue to use "Lombardi Trophy" and "Super Bowl."
Jane McManus is a reporter and columnist for ESPNNewYork.com. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
Follow Jane McManus on Twitter: @janesports
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/sto...ryan-san-diego-chargers-stay-classy-san-diego
but he's obviously jus hatin on sd!
LORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Rex Ryan had a simple response to grumblings coming from the San Diego Chargers in the wake of Sunday's 27-21 New York Jets victory. His players were a little more harsh.
"Stay classy, San Diego," said Ryan, referencing the character Ron Burgundy from the movie "Anchorman."
Kay: Rex Ryan - 10/24
Jets head coach Rex Ryan joins "The Michael Kay Show" to discuss Sunday's win and the team's slow start. He also responded to the Chargers claim that the officials took the game from them.
More Podcasts »
After his team didn't score in the second half and blew an 11-point lead, Chargers tight end Randy McMichael had said the Jets didn't deserve any credit, without being at all subtle.
"The San Diego Chargers beat ourselves, OK?" McMichael said. "It's all about us. We took our foot off the gas pedal, and we lost because of it. ... Their secondary isn't anything. It's our fault. It had nothing to do with anybody on their team. It's all about the guys in this locker room. We lost the game. They didn't do anything."
Ryan didn't address the substance of McMichael's complaints but he did praise his defensive backs, including Darrelle Revis, whose interception set up the go-ahead score for the Jets. Kyle Wilson's pick a few minutes later sealed the win.
Jets cornerback Antonio Cromartie was as subtle as McMichael, blasting the Chargers.
"Honestly, when you're up by 11 points in the fourth quarter and you can't even finish the game up?" the former Charger said. "That shows what kind of team you are -- a team that can't finish and that's been San Diego the whole time. There it is."
Week 8: Jets' bye
Gang Green will return to action Nov. 6 in Buffalo. Jets Center » Blog »
Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers was more diplomatic than his teammate. He felt his team let the win get away but also added: "The Jets had something to do with causing it to get away from us, certainly."
Jets safety Jim Leonhard cut McMichael some slack, saying it was natural for players to think that they were responsible for a win or loss based on their own actions. Revis, the anchor of the Jets secondary, did take his own shot at McMichael, though.
"We were focused on Antonio Gates," Revis said. "(McMichael) didn't do nothing exciting in the game. I could see if he had five touchdowns or four touchdowns. He didn't do nothing special. I mean, he knocked me out (of bounds) on the interception. He's McMichaels. That's what his last name says on his jersey."
Told that it's McMichael, Revis said: "McMichael, McMichaels. I don't pay attention. The only people I know are Philip Rivers, (Ryan) Mathews, Antonio Gates, Vincent Jackson and Malcolm Floyd. Those are the people we were focused on for this game. ... Whatever he said was bogus."
The Jets and San Diego could eventually settle it in a rematch, if both teams can make it to the AFC Championship. That is a long way off however, and Cromartie wasn't optimistic that the Chargers will make it.
"Let's see if they can win their (division), let's see if they can beat the Raiders first," Cromartie said.
There was some bad blood going into the game. Earlier in the week, Ryan inadvertently took a shot at San Diego coach Norv Turner by saying if he had been hired to coach San Diego instead of Turner, he'd have a "couple of rings" by now.
Ryan immediately called Turner to apologize and took it a step further Monday, vowing not to use a word that got him into trouble with Turner.
"I will no longer say the word 'rings' anymore," said Ryan, who also said in 2009 that he didn't come to New York to kiss Patriots coach Bill Belichick's rings.
"All that kind of stuff," he continued, "so I'm not going to use that word anymore. I get crushed every time I say it."
Ryan allowed that he would continue to use "Lombardi Trophy" and "Super Bowl."
Jane McManus is a reporter and columnist for ESPNNewYork.com. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
Follow Jane McManus on Twitter: @janesports
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/sto...ryan-san-diego-chargers-stay-classy-san-diego
WHAT CRO FORGOT TO MENTION WAS THAT IN MANY OF THOSE GAMES WE "DIDNT FINISH" HE COULD BE SEEN ON FILM RUNNING AWAY FROM TACKLES. ESPECIALLY THE PLAYOFF GAME AGAINST THE JETS WHEN HE LET SHONNE GREENE RIGHT THROUGH
WE'VE GOTTEN PROGRESSIVELY WORSE EVERY SEASON, THE YEAR AFTER MARTY LEFT WAS HIS BEST SEASON, HOWEVER THAT WAS MARTY'S TEAM...MARTY BUILT THAT TEAM AND NORV WAS JUST GIVEN THE KEYS TO DRIVE IT
WE'VE GOTTEN PROGRESSIVELY WORSE EVERY SEASON, THE YEAR AFTER MARTY LEFT WAS HIS BEST SEASON, HOWEVER THAT WAS MARTY'S TEAM...MARTY BUILT THAT TEAM AND NORV WAS JUST GIVEN THE KEYS TO DRIVE IT
FOR MY FINAL RANT OF THE DAY, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT NORV TURNER IS A WORTHLESS BASTARD. NO ONE IN THAT LOCKER ROOM IS BUYING WHAT HE IS SELLING, LETS BE HONEST, LORENZO NEAL GOT RAN OUT OF TOWN FOR SAYING AS MUCH. THIS TEAM HAS NO IDENTITY, LACKS LEADERSHIP, TENACITY, FIERCENESS, OR ANY OTHER INTANGIBLE THAT COMES ALONG WITH SWAGGER....THIS TEAM HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.......NORV IS HERE FOR ONE REASON AND ONE REASON ONLY, BECAUSE HE IS AJ SMITHS PUPPET. LET ME SAY THAT I WAS NOT OR AM NOT A FAN OF MARTYBALL. BUT I GOT TO GIVE MARTY CREDIT. HE BUILT THIS TEAM FROM THE GROUND UP.....MARTYBALL BROUGHT US BACK FROM OBSCURITY. AFTER GOING 14-2 HE GETS FIRED? AJ SAYS MARTY IS NOT A CHAMPIONSHIP CALIBER COACH, YET NORVELL IS?? IM JUST SAYING, I WAS ROOTING HARD FOR REX RYAN TO GET THAT JOB BACK IN 07....YEAR AFTER YEAR ITS THE SAME THING, SLOW STARTS, SLOW STARTS EMBARASSING PERFORMANCES. THIS YEAR SO FAR HAS BEEN A QUICKER START. WE WON SOME GAMES AGAINST NOT SO GOOD OPPONENTS. I WAS REALLY INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW THE CHARGERS WOULD DO AGAINST THE JETS....AFTER TWO WEEKS OF PREPERATION THE 1ST HALF LOOKED PROMISING, BUT AGAIN, MY BOY NORVELL DID NOT DISAPPOINT.
