The Official 2011 Oakland Raiders offseason thread
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The San Francisco 49ers and Oakland Raiders will end their annual preseason matchup as a result of the fan violence at Saturday's game, the San Jose Mercury News reported Monday, citing a high-ranking NFL source.
The source told the newspaper that both the NFL and local police are in favor of ending the preseason rivalry game.
49ers CEO Jed York said Monday he will recommend to the NFL that the game be put off next year.
In response to the violence, the 49ers are banning tailgating in the parking lot of Candlestick Park after games start, and any season ticket holders caught misbehaving on video will have their tickets revoked.
The San Jose Mercury News' Tim Kawakami talks about Oakland's selection of Terrelle Pryor in the supplemental draft and explains why the 49ers-Raiders preseason series will be discontinued.
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San Francisco police, Mayor Ed Lee and 49ers officials also say police will set up DUI checkpoints near the stadium after all 49ers games and strictly forbid alcohol consumption then.
Lee attended Saturday's game at Candlestick Park in San Francisco with Oakland Mayor Jean Quan, and both witnessed the brawling firsthand as spectators.
"They were just constantly wailing at each other without regard to who was there," Lee said of the fans. "This is a family outing, for residents and visitors and people who want to see the game, not for people to look for people they don't like, then saying bad words, then getting into it."
Lee said he was working with police and the 49ers to review footage of the fights and help identify people involved. A meeting was planned later Monday.
Meanwhile, two men who were initially listed as seriously injured in the violence have been upgraded to fair condition by a hospital.
One of the victims, a 24-year-old man, was shot several times in the stomach. Police said he managed to make it to stadium security for help despite the injuries.
The other victim whose condition was upgraded is a 26-year-old man who was beaten unconscious in an upper-level stadium restroom during the fourth quarter.
Another shooting victim was treated after receiving superficial facial wounds after the game.
Police did not release the names of any victims. No arrests have been made.
Investigators were searching for suspects and interviewing witnesses, said Officer Albie Esparza, a San Francisco police spokesman.
Police also were seeking motives in the shootings, including whether the attacks were influenced by emotions involving the annual Battle of the Bay exhibition game or possibly gang connections.
The Bay Area Newsgroup, citing a source familiar with the police investigation, reported that Saturday's violence is suspected to have been sparked by friction between the Nortenos and Surenos gangs.
49ers president Jed York said in an appearance on KNBR Radio in San Francisco on Monday that there was more security than usual for Saturday's game and there will be even more security for Saturday's game against the Houston Texans.
The shootings evoked memories of the near-fatal beating in March of a San Francisco Giants fan outside Dodger Stadium. The Giants and Dodgers baseball teams also are fierce rivals.
Esparza said police are still looking for a person of interest connected to at least one of the shootings at the football game. He would not specify which shooting.
The crimes previously prompted Lee and Quan to issue a joint statement condemning the violence and saying it will not be tolerated at stadiums in either city.
"The incidents ... are completely unacceptable and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law," the mayors said. "Fans come to our stadiums to enjoy an afternoon of football, not to be subjected to intimidation or violence."
NFL spokesman Greg Aiello echoed similar concerns on Sunday, saying "we deplore the activities of a handful of fans at last night's game and pledge our full support to Mayors Lee and Quan and to state and local law enforcement agencies."
49ers coach Jim Harbaugh, who once was a coach in the Raiders organization, said he was saddened to hear about the violence.
"I feel bad for the people who got injured and the people who had to see that, for those who had to witness it," Harbaugh said.
Raiders CEO Amy Trask also said the incidents were not acceptable to the Raiders or to any National Football League team and "our thoughts are with all affected."
Police Sgt. Frank Harrell said the man who was wearing the T-shirt drove his truck to a gate and stumbled to stadium security.
He said the two shootings were being treated a separate incidents but were likely related.
The attacks come nearly five months after San Francisco Giants fan Bryan Stow was severely beaten by two men in Los Angeles Dodgers gear outside Dodger Stadium after the archrivals' season opener.
Two men charged in the beating, Louie Sanchez, 28, and Marvin Norwood, 30, have pleaded not guilty.
Stow, 42, a Santa Cruz paramedic, suffered severe brain injuries and remains hospitalized in serious condition.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
The source told the newspaper that both the NFL and local police are in favor of ending the preseason rivalry game.
49ers CEO Jed York said Monday he will recommend to the NFL that the game be put off next year.
In response to the violence, the 49ers are banning tailgating in the parking lot of Candlestick Park after games start, and any season ticket holders caught misbehaving on video will have their tickets revoked.
The San Jose Mercury News' Tim Kawakami talks about Oakland's selection of Terrelle Pryor in the supplemental draft and explains why the 49ers-Raiders preseason series will be discontinued.
More Podcasts »
San Francisco police, Mayor Ed Lee and 49ers officials also say police will set up DUI checkpoints near the stadium after all 49ers games and strictly forbid alcohol consumption then.
Lee attended Saturday's game at Candlestick Park in San Francisco with Oakland Mayor Jean Quan, and both witnessed the brawling firsthand as spectators.
"They were just constantly wailing at each other without regard to who was there," Lee said of the fans. "This is a family outing, for residents and visitors and people who want to see the game, not for people to look for people they don't like, then saying bad words, then getting into it."
Lee said he was working with police and the 49ers to review footage of the fights and help identify people involved. A meeting was planned later Monday.
Meanwhile, two men who were initially listed as seriously injured in the violence have been upgraded to fair condition by a hospital.
One of the victims, a 24-year-old man, was shot several times in the stomach. Police said he managed to make it to stadium security for help despite the injuries.
The other victim whose condition was upgraded is a 26-year-old man who was beaten unconscious in an upper-level stadium restroom during the fourth quarter.
Another shooting victim was treated after receiving superficial facial wounds after the game.
Police did not release the names of any victims. No arrests have been made.
Investigators were searching for suspects and interviewing witnesses, said Officer Albie Esparza, a San Francisco police spokesman.
Police also were seeking motives in the shootings, including whether the attacks were influenced by emotions involving the annual Battle of the Bay exhibition game or possibly gang connections.
The Bay Area Newsgroup, citing a source familiar with the police investigation, reported that Saturday's violence is suspected to have been sparked by friction between the Nortenos and Surenos gangs.
49ers president Jed York said in an appearance on KNBR Radio in San Francisco on Monday that there was more security than usual for Saturday's game and there will be even more security for Saturday's game against the Houston Texans.
The shootings evoked memories of the near-fatal beating in March of a San Francisco Giants fan outside Dodger Stadium. The Giants and Dodgers baseball teams also are fierce rivals.
Esparza said police are still looking for a person of interest connected to at least one of the shootings at the football game. He would not specify which shooting.
The crimes previously prompted Lee and Quan to issue a joint statement condemning the violence and saying it will not be tolerated at stadiums in either city.
"The incidents ... are completely unacceptable and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law," the mayors said. "Fans come to our stadiums to enjoy an afternoon of football, not to be subjected to intimidation or violence."
NFL spokesman Greg Aiello echoed similar concerns on Sunday, saying "we deplore the activities of a handful of fans at last night's game and pledge our full support to Mayors Lee and Quan and to state and local law enforcement agencies."
49ers coach Jim Harbaugh, who once was a coach in the Raiders organization, said he was saddened to hear about the violence.
"I feel bad for the people who got injured and the people who had to see that, for those who had to witness it," Harbaugh said.
Raiders CEO Amy Trask also said the incidents were not acceptable to the Raiders or to any National Football League team and "our thoughts are with all affected."
Police Sgt. Frank Harrell said the man who was wearing the T-shirt drove his truck to a gate and stumbled to stadium security.
He said the two shootings were being treated a separate incidents but were likely related.
The attacks come nearly five months after San Francisco Giants fan Bryan Stow was severely beaten by two men in Los Angeles Dodgers gear outside Dodger Stadium after the archrivals' season opener.
Two men charged in the beating, Louie Sanchez, 28, and Marvin Norwood, 30, have pleaded not guilty.
Stow, 42, a Santa Cruz paramedic, suffered severe brain injuries and remains hospitalized in serious condition.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
I'm just saying man, too many are people letting the preseason be the guide. It just isn't that important. Yeah the players play hard, yeah they want to win, but it more about evaluating and giving guys a chance to make the team. The Raiders are going to be good this year. How good will depend on how much production we get out of our WR's.
http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2011/hue-jackson-confirms-terrelle-pryor-will-play-qb-for-oakland-raiders/
"Terrelle Pryor will play quarterback for the Oakland Raiders.
Head coach Hue Jackson confirmed the team has no plans to move the third-round supplemental draft pick to another position for the time being.
“This young man is a quarterback and I think that is where he is going to start and we will go from there,” Jackson told reporters on Monday.
Few were surprised the Raiders picked up Pryor, but many question whether he is worth the third-round price tag.
Obviously, Al Davis believes he is. So does Jackson for that matter.
“Terrelle Pryor is a very talented young football player that we drafted who is going to be on our football team,” Jackson said. “I am excited to work with him.”
And work with him he must. Pryor, like most rookies, is thought to be a project–perhaps even a long-term one.
So what does Pryor bring to the table in Jackson’s eyes?
“He can throw it. He can run with it. He is smart. He is tough. He played in big games,” the coach said. “Again he is another young athlete that we are going to add to the mix that plays quarterback and we will work him.”
Pryor will be eligible to play in the Raiders remaining preseason games, but will open his rookie season by serving a five game suspension.
“He has to sit out a little while,” the coach said."
"Terrelle Pryor will play quarterback for the Oakland Raiders.
Head coach Hue Jackson confirmed the team has no plans to move the third-round supplemental draft pick to another position for the time being.
“This young man is a quarterback and I think that is where he is going to start and we will go from there,” Jackson told reporters on Monday.
Few were surprised the Raiders picked up Pryor, but many question whether he is worth the third-round price tag.
Obviously, Al Davis believes he is. So does Jackson for that matter.
“Terrelle Pryor is a very talented young football player that we drafted who is going to be on our football team,” Jackson said. “I am excited to work with him.”
And work with him he must. Pryor, like most rookies, is thought to be a project–perhaps even a long-term one.
So what does Pryor bring to the table in Jackson’s eyes?
“He can throw it. He can run with it. He is smart. He is tough. He played in big games,” the coach said. “Again he is another young athlete that we are going to add to the mix that plays quarterback and we will work him.”
Pryor will be eligible to play in the Raiders remaining preseason games, but will open his rookie season by serving a five game suspension.
“He has to sit out a little while,” the coach said."
The Raiders do a lot of things I don't like.
I hate that they constantly trade future picks away.
I hate that they continuously have to restructure contracts to make it under the salary cap, usually ending up with a large amount of "dead money" every year.
I hate our success with drafting QBs.
However, when all these gambles work the team is explosive.
Everyone has forgotten about all the times that these gambles worked and focus on the recent failures.
If the Jets or the Pats got TP everyone would be saying how great a pick up it was.
Lets see what the coaches do with this kid.
I hate that they constantly trade future picks away.
I hate that they continuously have to restructure contracts to make it under the salary cap, usually ending up with a large amount of "dead money" every year.
I hate our success with drafting QBs.
However, when all these gambles work the team is explosive.
Everyone has forgotten about all the times that these gambles worked and focus on the recent failures.
If the Jets or the Pats got TP everyone would be saying how great a pick up it was.
Lets see what the coaches do with this kid.
this is real talk right here... if the Raiders make a move that's a slight gamble people assume it's a bad pick... if a team like the Pats make a move that's a slight gamble it's a great pick. granted the track record of the team's recent success gives people more faith in the pick, but still, the way the media portrays it is gonna be biased as fuck
keep in mind Hue Jackson is known for being good at developing young QBs
I did say I don't think Pryor is gonna be a good QB, but he's such an athlete we can do something with him, and we gave up a 3rd round pick, which isn't a huge loss since we're getting compensatory picks for Nnamdi and Miller
if he ends up being a bust, fuck it. it's not liking picking Russell number one overall and giving him a huge contract, which set our team back a few years. if Pryor ends up being a complete bust... it won't be a huge deal. every player you draft is somewhat of a gamble
nobody ever makes a big deal about who a team drafts in the 3rd round... but since this pick happened on it's own and it was a big name college player it's getting attention... and since it's the Raiders it's getting tons of hate
keep in mind Hue Jackson is known for being good at developing young QBs
I did say I don't think Pryor is gonna be a good QB, but he's such an athlete we can do something with him, and we gave up a 3rd round pick, which isn't a huge loss since we're getting compensatory picks for Nnamdi and Miller
if he ends up being a bust, fuck it. it's not liking picking Russell number one overall and giving him a huge contract, which set our team back a few years. if Pryor ends up being a complete bust... it won't be a huge deal. every player you draft is somewhat of a gamble
nobody ever makes a big deal about who a team drafts in the 3rd round... but since this pick happened on it's own and it was a big name college player it's getting attention... and since it's the Raiders it's getting tons of hate
looking at it on paper were loaded !!!! the ammunition is there and all the weapons we got on offense, D-Mac, D-Moore, Jacoby Ford,just to name a few.....31 teams are pissed off they passed up on D-Moore,hes gonna do some big things with the Raiders, plus we got TP now ! cant wait to see what he could do.Hue Jackson is ready to unload !