The fear of death

[NovaFire]

Right now, for you, the worth is subjective, but overall it isn't subjective and if you came down with hiv and had full blown aids a year later you'd most likely be begging for a cure. So it doesn't add or subtract because you aren't placed in a situation for it to have an impact, but globally the worth is not subjective.

the cure is subjective, all the people that dont have aids are not really stressing of it. So the value for them is zero. those that do have aids place high value on it. sounds subjective. Just like music, some value it some dont.

Now given the choice of being HIV free and no ice cream or having all the ice cream you want and being hiv positive which would you pick?

obvious.

Now, in that dealing with it, does music cure the ailment?

doesnt have to. You said it yourself, its a little theraputic, so it has at least a little worth.

If we use your logic no one should even be born because they are going to have to work. Their life should be extended because they have the right to live. Extend their life so they can make contributions to society.

pushing it to the limits.

You aren't making much sense right now. Why even have kids? Why are YOU still alive? What you're doing is presenting a strawman argument and totally ignoring what has been stated.

shit, some peeps are workaholics.


"use no way as a way'

it means, learn as you go. Following things systematically creates rigomortis in the mind.

 

[HERESY]

the cure is subjective, all the people that dont have aids are not really stressing of it. So the value for them is zero. those that do have aids place high value on it. sounds subjective. Just like music, some value it some dont.

obvious.





doesnt have to. You said it yourself, its a little theraputic, so it has at least a little worth.



pushing it to the limits.



shit, some peeps are workaholics.


"use no way as a way'

it means, learn as you go. Following things systematically creates rigomortis in the mind.

You aren't making much sense, so there is no need to continue this exchange.

Good day, sir.

 

[NovaFire]

You aren't making much sense, so there is no need to continue this exchange.

Good day, sir.

nah it make sense, me no HIV=0 value, others HIV=Valuable. Subjective.

 

[50cal]

nah it make sense, me no HIV=0 value, others HIV=Valuable. Subjective.

What about placing a value on aids regardless, because whether you have it or not in some way or another it effects you and the life you live.

 

[EDJ]

I would agree that life is a miracle, but the problem is many people can't live life for what it's worth or have been dealt a fucked up hand that they'll never be able to shake. I'm not saying it isn't worth living, shit if thats the case I should just kill myself now. What I'm saying is what we place importance on, what we struggle so hard for, the material shit, the presitge, all of that is nothing. However, in this world we are taught that you are nothing unless you have something. However, certain religions came up because of that very belief, but even now they have been compromised by materialism.

I gUESS WE AgREE ON THAT. PERSONALLY WHAT IS IT WORTH TO YOU? BUT IT WAS FORETOLD ABOUT ALL THESE THANgS THE WORLD HOLDS DEAR.

According to several dictionaries 3. We can go with this one. Apathy (also called impassivity or perfunctoriness) is a state of indifference, where an individual has an absence of interest or concern to certain aspects of emotional, social, or physical life.

I KNOW I CAN'T MAKE NO REAL CHANgE, SO I JUST WORRY ABOUT THOSE AROUND ME. IF I CAN HELP YOU HELP ME..........

For the most part, the majority of human beings are this way, but I wouldn't say in your case it is bad or your fault because you're a product of your environment. However, I also know that for the most part, many humans want to do good but don't know how. Someone would say you're a bad person for having that outlook, but I'm not. I know the real YOU, I fuck with YOU outside of here, and I know that you have helped people.

YUP, I DONE HELPED INgRATES DESPITE MY SITUATION........
MATTER OF FACT, I JUST MADE A SONg ABOUT THAT. I'LL LET YOU HEAR IT. IT'S CALLED "INgRATITUDE".

Now say you had a child, and it's your childs life or yours who lives?

NATURALLY I WOULD HAVE TO SAY MY CHILD. THAT LOVE IS UNCONDITIONAL.


SERIOUSLY(WHATEVA YOU WANT TO CALL YOURSELF),

im so sorry man, i didnt realize you took the concept of thuggin it to heart. Are you a thug?

51ST OF ALL,
WHAT IS "THUgKIN'" AND WHAT IS A "THUg"? PLEASE ANSWER THAT BEFORE WE MOVE N-E- FURTHER.

quit feeding into primitive concepts and understand them for what they are.

WHAT PRIMITIVE CONCEPT? YOU THE ONE USIN' PLAYED OUT WORDS AND gIMMIKS AS YOUR USER NAME.

then that means that BECAUSE of your current perception based on your current beliefs or lack of belief, YOU see things as they are and are attached to things that are destined to collapse.

I AIN'T ATTACHED TO SHIT. CAUSE WHEN IT'S TIME FOR ME TO gO, IT'S TIME FOR ME TO gO. DEATH IS PART OF LIFE. IT IS WHAT IT IS. YOUR ABSOLUTE BELIEF DOESN'T EXPLAIN ABOUT WHERE A CHILD gOES AFTER IT DIES IF ITS PARENTS COME FROM TWO DIFFERENT SET OF CONTRADICTORY RELIgIOUS BELIEFS.

i dont know why you are asking me that...
in the end its subject to your definition of Christianity and God.
who knows.... maybe true christianity written in the bible has been corrupted or misunderstood. I guess then that would mean that "christianity" is about how you interpret it.

MAYBE. WHAT A CONCEPT. BUT I'M ASKIN' YOU CAUSE YOU THROWIN' THE WORD AROUND LIKE I'M SUPPOSE TO gRASP IT. I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT IT IS SINCE YOU ACT LIKE YOU KNOW.

you are trying wayy to hard to grasp what i am saying. Dont become distressed when you see concepts such as "Absolute",the term thug, nor a capital G.

quit makin your existance difficult

YOU QUIT MAKIN' YOUR EXISTENCE DIFFICULT. I'M TRYIN' TO gRASP WHAT YOU MEAN SO I CAN HAVE A CLEAR UNDA-STANDIN' AND NOT ASSUME SHIT.

AND SO YOU WON'T ASSUME, EDUCATE YOURSELF:

http://siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=102163&highlight=TERM+THUg

 

[HERESY]

What about placing a value on aids regardless, because whether you have it or not in some way or another it effects you and the life you live.

You're wasting your time talking to that guy.

 

[daluvlymel]

i will have to take a hour to read this tomorrow...i'll comment later

 

[SeriouslyThug]

51ST OF ALL,
WHAT IS "THUgKIN'" AND WHAT IS A "THUg"? PLEASE ANSWER THAT BEFORE WE MOVE N-E- FURTHER.

fifty second of all, YOU answer me that because you are the one who seems to take it to heart here askin me to remove it because i dont represent it.
Thug to me means SHIT. it means animals like yourself tryin to express their being through another mans idea.

WHAT PRIMITIVE CONCEPT? YOU THE ONE USIN' PLAYED OUT WORDS AND gIMMIKS AS YOUR USER NAME.

yes, i am using played out words and gIMMIK$ as my username because it is afterall, a username....
seriously EDJ, what have you been smoking all the time youve been away?
Either the world is evolving without you, or you are still stuck in this e-gangbanging portrayal of yourself that nobody gives a shit about anymore.
fuck your concepts, and fuck your self victimization of your hard lifestyle.

I AIN'T ATTACHED TO SHIT. CAUSE WHEN IT'S TIME FOR ME TO gO, IT'S TIME FOR ME TO gO. DEATH IS PART OF LIFE. IT IS WHAT IT IS. YOUR ABSOLUTE BELIEF DOESN'T EXPLAIN ABOUT WHERE A CHILD gOES AFTER IT DIES IF ITS PARENTS COME FROM TWO DIFFERENT SET OF CONTRADICTORY RELIgIOUS BELIEFS.

again, what i am saying is that even if the religious beliefs vary between the parents, it makes absolutely no different for what IS absolute.
what is absolute doesnt need you to acknowledge it nor follow it because it will always be what it is.
whatever the parents follow is still based on the subjectivity of their perception and whoever in return adapts their beliefs.

MAYBE. WHAT A CONCEPT. BUT I'M ASKIN' YOU CAUSE YOU THROWIN' THE WORD AROUND LIKE I'M SUPPOSE TO gRASP IT. I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT IT IS SINCE YOU ACT LIKE YOU KNOW.

what word am i throwing around?
concept? subjectivity? absolute? christianity? god? make sense

YOU QUIT MAKIN' YOUR EXISTENCE DIFFICULT. I'M TRYIN' TO gRASP WHAT YOU MEAN SO I CAN HAVE A CLEAR UNDA-STANDIN' AND NOT ASSUME SHIT.

and im trying to get you to unda-stand that you wont unda-stand because you are trying wayy to hard to involve your ego in it.
you ego is limiting the receptivity of your perception.

AND SO YOU WON'T ASSUME, EDUCATE YOURSELF:

http://siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=102163&highlight=TERM+THUg

you just shootin yourself in the foot with that one...
its really funny that you are the one calling it a played out trend, while you are the one making threads about it and tryin to call people out on it because it obviously means more to you than it does to them...

 

[REdRUM]

The only thing that really scares me about death is the thought of not being around for my children. I have 3, two boys and a girl, and I want to be there for them at all times, through good and bad, and love and support them at all times. I felt exactly like you a few years ago...but since I became a father, my feelings have changed.

I want to live, damnit.

 

[Puehlhofah]

I think death itself isn't what should make people worry. If there comes nothing after it, there is nothing to fear. If there is something, y'all should really fear.

Atheism is just another try to justify yourself. But man, as a Christian I don't really care, let's wait and see. Soon we're gone like the wind and we will all know. Personally I know that there is a heaven and a hell (where most people go). Try to argue, y'all can't take this from me. Just be patient, and we'll all see.

Peace

 

[Gas One]

heresy shut alot of people down in here...even though ive argued with him too i can read his shit and digest it..thats all imma say..and shout out to edj...im just now seein this thread so i have no comments after the fiasco

i fear the last moments on earth and the sad realization of such..not death itself

death much like armen said seems like freedom. a good thing. i want my family to throw a parade when im gone.

and some of those comments on aids...man...i know someone who manages an aids clinic..met magic johnson...dont wanna make no comments on that but you gotta really think about who it affects and why and its deep as fuck...just got into an argument w someone who said slavery didnt effect anyone not directly affected..i feel the same way.strongly, it affects us all.

 

[EDJ]

WHAT UP gAS ONE? IT'S RIgHT BAK AT YOU.

PUEHLHOFAH,
HOW YOU KNOW THAT'S WHERE MOST PEOPLE gO?

NOW SERIOUSLY KRISHNA,

fifty second of all, YOU answer me that because you are the one who seems to take it to heart here askin me to remove it because i dont represent it.
Thug to me means SHIT. it means animals like yourself tryin to express their being through another mans idea.

I DIDN'T SAY SHIT ABOUT YOU REPRESENTIN' N-E-THANg. AND FOR THE RECORD, I AIN'T NO THUg. I AIN'T WHAT THESE SQUARES LABEL. YOU USE IT AS A FAD(THUS YOUR SCREEN NAME).

yes, i am using played out words and gIMMIK$ as my username because it is afterall, a username....
seriously EDJ, what have you been smoking all the time youve been away?
Either the world is evolving without you, or you are still stuck in this e-gangbanging portrayal of yourself that nobody gives a shit about anymore.
fuck your concepts, and fuck your self victimization of your hard lifestyle.

THIS FOO' SAID E-BANgIN'. LOL NOBODY TRIPPIN' WITH YOU FOR ONE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU THINK MUTHA-FUKAS IS COMIN' HOSTILE. TWO, I'M THE SAME MUTHA-FUKA WHEREVA I ROLE AND I AIN'T CHANgED TO PLEASE N-E-BODY. I'M STILL THE SAME MUTHA-FUKA FROM BAK IN THE DAY. SO WHY WOULD I SWITCH NOW? I AIN'T PORTRAYIN' SHIT. I'M A MAN LIVIN' IN THIS WORLD, JUST LIKE YOU.

again, what i am saying is that even if the religious beliefs vary between the parents, it makes absolutely no different for what IS absolute.
what is absolute doesnt need you to acknowledge it nor follow it because it will always be what it is.
whatever the parents follow is still based on the subjectivity of their perception and whoever in return adapts their beliefs.

SO WHAT IS ABSOLUTE? WHAT IS THE ABSOLUTE? WHERE DOES THIS CHILD gO? IT WAS NEVA CONSCIOUS.

what word am i throwing around?
concept? subjectivity? absolute? christianity? god? make sense

YOU MAKE SENSE(NOT SAYIN' THAT YOU MAKE SENSE, BUT ASKIN' YOU TO MAKE SENSE). YOU CALLIN' ME A CHRISTIAN AND TRYIN' TO TELL ME WHAT I BELIEVE(OR SHOULD BELIEVE). I ASKED YOU WHAT IT MEANT. IF YOU NEED N-E FURTHER CLARIFICATION, gO BAK AND RE-READ.

and im trying to get you to unda-stand that you wont unda-stand because you are trying wayy to hard to involve your ego in it.
you ego is limiting the receptivity of your perception.

SO IF I WON'T EVA UNDA-STAND, THEN WHY EVEN BOTHER WITH SOMETHIN' THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE? DOES IT EVEN MAKE SENSE TO YOU? SO WHAT ABOUT MY EgO? SO YOU SAYIN' THAT I SHOULD TUK MY TAIL IN BETWEEN MY LEgS AND SUCCUMB LIKE A FAg WITH NO PRIDE OR EgO?

you just shootin yourself in the foot with that one...
its really funny that you are the one calling it a played out trend, while you are the one making threads about it and tryin to call people out on it because it obviously means more to you than it does to them...

I MADE A THREAD ABOUT IT YEARS AgO CAUSE I WAS FED UP WITH THE FAKENESS IN THIS gAME(RAP AND THE STREETS). FINALLY A RILLA LIKE MYSELF CAME AND BROKE IT DOWN. THAT THREAD IS OLD. gO LOOK AT THE DATES. BUT THE SHIT IS gARBAgE, JUST LIKE YOUR USERNAME. THE gAME FAKE AND gETTIN' FAKER.

 

[SeriouslyThug]

WHAT UP gAS ONE? IT'S RIgHT BAK AT YOU.

PUEHLHOFAH,
HOW YOU KNOW THAT'S WHERE MOST PEOPLE gO?

NOW SERIOUSLY KRISHNA,



I DIDN'T SAY SHIT ABOUT YOU REPRESENTIN' N-E-THANg. AND FOR THE RECORD, I AIN'T NO THUg. I AIN'T WHAT THESE SQUARES LABEL. YOU USE IT AS A FAD(THUS YOUR SCREEN NAME).




THIS FOO' SAID E-BANgIN'. LOL NOBODY TRIPPIN' WITH YOU FOR ONE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU THINK MUTHA-FUKAS IS COMIN' HOSTILE. TWO, I'M THE SAME MUTHA-FUKA WHEREVA I ROLE AND I AIN'T CHANgED TO PLEASE N-E-BODY. I'M STILL THE SAME MUTHA-FUKA FROM BAK IN THE DAY. SO WHY WOULD I SWITCH NOW? I AIN'T PORTRAYIN' SHIT. I'M A MAN LIVIN' IN THIS WORLD, JUST LIKE YOU.



SO WHAT IS ABSOLUTE? WHAT IS THE ABSOLUTE? WHERE DOES THIS CHILD gO? IT WAS NEVA CONSCIOUS.




YOU MAKE SENSE(NOT SAYIN' THAT YOU MAKE SENSE, BUT ASKIN' YOU TO MAKE SENSE). YOU CALLIN' ME A CHRISTIAN AND TRYIN' TO TELL ME WHAT I BELIEVE(OR SHOULD BELIEVE). I ASKED YOU WHAT IT MEANT. IF YOU NEED N-E FURTHER CLARIFICATION, gO BAK AND RE-READ.




SO IF I WON'T EVA UNDA-STAND, THEN WHY EVEN BOTHER WITH SOMETHIN' THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE? DOES EVEN MAKE SENSE TO YOU?





I MADE A THREAD ABOUT IT YEARS AgO CAUSE I WAS FED UP WITH THE FAKENESS IN THIS gAME(RAP AND THE STREETS). FINALLY A RILLA LIKE MYSELF CAME AND BROKE IT DOWN. THAT THREAD IS OLD. gO LOOK AT THE DATES. BUT THE SHIT IS gARBAgE, JUST LIKE YOUR USERNAME. THE gAME FAKE AND gETTIN' FAKER.

i will let you have the last word cuz honestly, it hurts my brain trying to convert your text into real english.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

heresy shut alot of people down in here.

LOL

You cant "shut people down" when speaking on subjective views.

 

[Gas One]

whatever you say!

 

[EDJ]

SERIOUSLY"WHATEVA THE FUK",
YOU MUST'VE BEEN WAITIN' FOR A RESPONSE, CAUSE YOU CAME BAK TOO QUIK. LOL

BUT WHAT A COP OUT. YOU UNDA-STAND WHAT THE FUK I'M SAYIN'.

 

[thatguy]

Who has it? Who thinks about what happens when you die? I have been obsessing about this for a while now.

At one point in my life, i felt that i wouldnt care if i died. Now, that is a very different story. My life is good and i am very happy.

That being said, i just cant wrap my head around death: you do not exist anymore. What happens? No memories?

Sometimes i feel like religion was invented to soften the fear of death. If people believe that they go onto another life after this one, the fear of dying deminishes, IMHO.

It really is an odd thing to think about at 30, when only 5 years ago i had a very different view on death.

Who else thinks about it?

i read some book about people describing their near death experiences , it was trippy as hell. all of them described the same thing when they were "dead" its like you slip into a different dimension. ever since then, i have no fear of death at all

 

[SeriouslyThug]

SERIOUSLY"WHATEVA THE FUK",
YOU MUST'VE BEEN WAITIN' FOR A RESPONSE, CAUSE YOU CAME BAK TOO QUIK. LOL

BUT WHAT A COP OUT. YOU UNDA-STAND WHAT THE FUK I'M SAYIN'.

yes but it uses up more of my brain power trying to catch the lowercase G, the custom slangified ebonics + the lil touch of EDJ and his depression makes it really not worth it

 

[MaKaVeLi_420]

No, becuase i have taken many, many shits in the past...so i know what happens when i take a shit. Not only that, but when im done shitting, i still exist.

Didn't Elvis die on the shitter?

 

[rekomstop]

he did?
damn i wouldn't let a shit take me out like that, maybe make me plug my nose or something but never push til death, damn...lol


but i'm also not constipated from eating healthy so i'll prolly die when i'm like eating my avocados and carrot sticks haha.