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Pat Tillman...

The Pat Tillman Murder

-who is he?-



Patrick Daniel Tillman. Born in San Jose, CA on (November 6, 1976 – April 22, 2004) was an American football player who left his professional sports career and enlisted in the United States Army in May 2002, along with his brother Kevin Tillman. He was killed in action in Afghanistan.[1] The controversy surrounding the full details of his death has sparked many investigations; currently, the United States Congress is conducting its own investigation into how Tillman died because of the inadequacy of past investigations.

-What happend?-
The Army initially claimed that Tillman and his unit were attacked in an apparent ambush on a road outside of the village of Sperah about 25 miles (40 km) southwest of Khost, near the Pakistan border. An Afghan militia soldier was killed, and two other Rangers were injured as well.

-..So what?-
On July 26, 2007, AP received official documents stating that the investigating doctors performing the autopsy suspected that Tillman was deliberately murdered

-How??-
The doctors whose names were blacked out said that the three bullet holes in his head were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away.

-By who??-
Seven soldiers were given administrative reprimands for their actions, the most serious of which were for dereliction of duty and failing to exercise sound judgment and fire discipline in combat operations.

-..why?-
the biggest question out there concerning the murder. Here are some facts about Tillman though..

-He opposed the Invasion of Iraq, claiming it was illegal.
-He favored john kerry.
-He had plans to meet with Noam Chomsky, a famous anti-war author

..What else?
Troops on the ground said there was a spy drone flying above recording the event..
Troops in the field say they heard the drone, but the administration higher-ups say “Who you gonna believe? Me, or your lyin’ ears?”

An Air Force commando attached to Tillman’s Army Ranger platoon testified that as the incident unfolded, he heard the unmanned reconnaissance plane’s distinctive propellor buzz overhead.

“I remember hearing an aircraft that I initially suspected was a C-130 but as I listened closer I knew it was a Predator drone,” he told Army investigators.

His belief was later confirmed by a comrade at their tactical operations center, he said. “I was told it was over us during the ambush,” this airman testified. His name was blacked out of documents the Army released last month.

The Air Force commando was something of an expert in aircraft sounds. As an “enlisted terminal attack controller,” his job was to call in and then direct “close air support” or aircraft that could fire on the enemy in the kind of ambush that preceded Tillman’s death.
http://www.correntewire.com/did_a_predator_drone_record_pat_tillmans_death_by_friendly_fire

-::Vidz::-
Bush Avoids Pat Tillman investigation::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnBItdZaNfw

News breaking of confirmation that doctors were denied by the army to investigate wether pat tillman was murdered:: @(3:28)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpGK6WidRyo

Congressional hearing on pat tillman case::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zutTJofJnZI

Is Rumsfeld Telling the Truth?::
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-635214122909175127
 
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^INTERESTING... I WAS AT A PARTY ONCE AND A HOMIES DAD WAS THEIR... WE GOT TO TALKING AND HE TOLD ME HE WAS IN THE VIETNAM WAR... LONG STORY SHORT, HE TOLD ME IT WASNT A BIG DEAL IF YOU KILLED A FELLOW SOLDIER IN COMBAT... THAT IF HE WAS A BITCH OR DIDNT HAVE HIS FELLOW SOLDIERS BACK PEOPLE WOULDNT HESITATE TO PUT A BULLET IN HIS HEAD... THAT "HE DIED IN COMBAT", THATS WHOLE CONVERSATION WITH THAT MAN WAS INTERESTING
 

Young M

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OFF TOPIC BUT GOOD POEM .... take time to read it. I fogot the author sorry

I am Joaquin,
Lost in a world of confusion,
Caught up in a whirl of a gringo society,
Confused by the rules, Scorned by attitudes,
Suppressed by manipulations, And destroyed by modern society.
My fathers have lost the economic battle and won the struggle of cultural survival.
And now! I must choose between the paradox of
Victory of the spirit, despite physical hunger
Or


to exist in the grasp of American social neurosis,
sterilization of the soul, and a full stomach.
YES,
I have come a long way to nowhere, Unwillingly dragged by that
monstrous, technical industrial giant called
Progress and Anglo success…
I look at myself. I watch my brothers.
I shed tears of sorrow.
I sow seeds of hate.
I withdraw to the safety within the
Circle of life . . .
MY OWN PEOPLE


I am Cuauhtemoc,
Proud and Noble Leader of men, King of an empire,
civilized beyond the dreams of the Gachupin Cortez,
Who also is the blood, the image of myself.


I am the Maya Prince.
I am Netzahualcoyotl,
Great leader of the Chichimecas.
I am the sword and flame of Cortez the despot.
And


I am the Eagle and Serpent of the Aztec civilization.
I owned the land as far as the eye could see under the crown of Spain,
and I toiled on my earth and gave my Indian sweat and blood for the Spanish master,
Who ruled with tyranny over man and beast and all that he could trample
But . . .


THE GROUND WAS MINE.
I was both tyrant and slave.
As Christian church took its place in God's good name,
to take and use my Virgin strength and Trusting faith,
The priests both good and bad, took
But
gave a lasting truth that
Spaniard, Indian, Mestizo
Were all God's children
And from these words grew men who prayed and fought
for their own worth as human beings, for that
GOLDEN MOMENT
Of
FREEDOM.


I was part in blood and spirit of that courageous village priest
Hidalgo in the year eighteen hundred and ten
who rang the bell of independence
and gave out that lasting cry:
El Grito de Dolores,
"Que mueran los Gachupines y que viva la Virgin de Guadalupe"
I sentenced him who was me.
I excommunicated him my blood.
I drove him from the Pulpit to lead a bloody revolution for him and me I killed him.
His head, which is mine and all of those who have conic this way,
I placed on that fortress wall to wall for Independence.
Morelos!
Matamoros!
Guerrero!
All Compañeros in the act,
STOOD AGAINST THAT WALL OF INFAMY
to feel the hot gouge of lead which my hands made.
I died with them . . . I lived with them
I lived to see our country free.
Free from Spanish rule in eighteen -hundred- twenty-one.
Mexico was Free
The crown was gone
but


all his parasites remained and ruled and taught with gun and flame and mystic power.
I worked, I sweated, I bled, I prayed and
waited silently for life to again commence.
I fought and died for Don Benito Juarez Guardian of the Constitution.
I was him on clusty roads on barren land
as he protected his archives as Moses did his sacraments.
He held his Mexico in his hand on
the most desolate and remote ground
which was his country And this Giant
Little Zapotec gave not one palm's breadth
of his country's land to Kings or Monarchs or Presidents
of foreign powers.


I am Joaquin.
I rode with Pancho Villa, crude and warm.
A tornado at full strength, nourished and inspired by the passion and the fire of all his earth, people.
I am Emillano Zapata.
"This Land This Earth Is OURS"
The Villages
The Mountains
The Streams
belong to Zapatistas.
Our life
Or yours is the only trade for soft brown earth and maiz.
All of which is our reward, A creed that formed a constitution for all who dare live free!
"This land is ours . . . Father, I give it back to you.
Mexico must be free . . .'
I ride with Revolutionists
against myself.
I am Rural Course and brutal,
I am the mountain Indian, superior over all.
The thundering hoof beats are my horses.
The chattering of machine guns'
are death to all of me:
Yaqui
Tarahumara
Chamula
Zapotec
Mestizo
Español


I have been the Bloody Revolution,
The Victor,
The Vanquished,
I have killed and been killed.
I am despots Diaz and Huerta and the apostle of democracy
Francisco Madero.
I am the black shawled faithful women who die with me
or live depending on the time and place.
I am faithful, humble, Juan Diego, the Virgen de Guadalupe,
Tonatzin, Aztec Goddess too.


I rode the mountains of San Joaquin. I rode as far East and North as the Rocky Mountains
And all men feared the guns of Joaquin Murrietta.
I killed those men who dared to steal my mine,
who raped and Killed my Love my Wife
Then
I Killed to stay alive.
I was Alfego. Baca, living my nine lives fully.
I was the Espinoza brothers of the Valle de San Luis.
All, were added to the number of heads that in the name of civilization
were placed on the wall of independence.
Heads of brave men who died for cause or principle.
Good or Bad.
Hidalgo! Zapata!
Murrietta! Espinozas!
are but a few.
They dared to face The force of tyranny of men who rule
by farce and hypocrisy I stand here looking back, and now I see the present
and still I arn the campesino I am the fat political coyote
I, of the same name,
Joaquin.



In a country that has wiped out AIl my history, stiffled all my pride.
In a country that has placed a different weight of indignity upon my age old burdened back.
Inferiority is the new load . . .
The Indian has endured and still emerged the winner,
The Mestizo must yet overcome, and the Gachupin will just ignore.
I look at myself and see part of me who rejects my father and my mother
and dissolves into the melting pot to disappear in shame.
I sometimes sell my brother out and reclaim him
for my own when society, gives me token leadership
in society's own name.


I am Joaquin, who bleeds in many ways.
The altars of Moctezuma I stained a bloody red.
My back of Indian Slavery
was stripped crimson from the whips of masters who would lose their blood so pure when Revolution made them pay Standing against the walls of Retribution, Blood . . .
Has flowed from me on every battlefield
between Campesino, Hacendado Slave and Master and Revolution.
I jumped from the tower of Chapultepec into the sea of fame;
My country's flag my burial shroud;
With Los Niños, whose pride and courage
could not surrender with indignity their country's flag . . . in their land.


To strangers now I bleed in some smelly cell from club.
or gun. or tyranny.
I bleed as the vicious gloves of hunger
cut my face and eyes, as I fight my way from stinking Barrios
to the glamour of the Ring and lights of fame or mutilated sorrow.
My blood runs pure on the ice caked
hills of the Alaskan Isles, on the corpse strewn beach of Normandy,
the foreign land of Korea and now Viet Nam.


Here I stand
before the Court of Justice Guilty for all the glory of my Raza to be sentenced to despair.
Here I stand Poor in money Arrogant with pride
Bold with Machismo Rich in courage and Wealthy in spirit and faith
My knees are caked with mud.
My hands calloused from the hoe.
I have made the Anglo rich yet Equality is but a word, the Treaty of Hidalgo has been broken
and is but another treacherous promise. My land is lost
and stolen,
My culture has been raped, lengthen
the line at the welfare door and fill the jails with crime.
These then are the rewards this society has For sons of Chiefs
and Kings and bloody Revolutionists.
Who gave a foreign people all their skills and ingenuity
to pave the way with Brains and Blood
for those hordes of Gold starved Strangers
Who changed our language and plagiarized our deeds
as feats of valor of their own. They frowned upon our way of life
and took what they could use.
Our Art
Our Literature
Our music,
they ignored so they left the real things of value and grabbed at their own
destruction by their Greed and Avarice
They overlooked that cleansing fountain of nature and brotherhood
Which is Joaquin.
The art of our great señors Diego Rivera
Siqueiros Orozco is butanother act of revolution for the Salvation of mankind.
Mariachi music, the heart and soul of the people of the earth,
the life of child, and the happiness of love
The Corridos tell the tales of life and death, of tradition,
Legends old and new, of Joy of passion and sorrow of the people:



who I am.
I am in the eyes of woman, sheltered beneath
her shawl of black, deep and sorrowful eyes,
That bear the pain of sons long buried or dying, Dead
on the battlefield or on the barbwire of social strife.
Her rosary she prays and fingers
endlessly like the family working down a row of beets to turn around and work and work
There is no end.
Her eyes a mirror of all the warmth and all the love for me,
And I am her And she is me.
We face life together in sorrow.
anger, joy, faith and wishful thoughts.
I shed tears of anguish as I see my children disappear behind the shroud of mediocrity
never to look back to remember me.


I am Joaquin.
I must fight And win this struggle for my sons,
and they must know from me Who I am.
Part of the blood that runs deep in me
Could not be vanquished by the Moors
I defeated them after five hundred years,
and I endured.
The part of blood that is mine
has labored endlessly five-hundred years under the heel of lustful Europeans
I am still here!


I have endured in the rugged mountains of our country
I have survived the toils and slavery, of the fields.
I have existed in the barrios of the city,
in the suburbs of bigotry, in the mines of social snobbery,
in the prisons of dejection, in the muck of exploitation
and in the fierce heat of racial hatred.
And now the trumpet sounds,
The music of the people stirs the
Revolution, Like a sleeping giant it slowly rears its head
to the sound of Tramping feet Clamouring voices Marlachi strains
Fiery tequila explosions The smell of chile verde and
Soft brown eyes of expectation for a better life
And in all the fertile farm lands, the barren plains,
the mountain villages, smoke smeared cities



We start to MOVE.
La Raza!
Mejicano!
Español!
Latino!
Hispano!
Chicano!
or whatever I call myself,
I look the same
I feel the same
I cry
and
Sing the same
I am the masses of my people and I refuse to be absorbed.
I am Joaquin
The odds are great but my spirit is strong
My faith unbreakable
My blood is pure
I am Aztec Prince and Christian Christ

I SHALL ENDURE!
 
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encho20 said:
lemme ask u homies something,.................IF A BOY IS BORN AND RAISED IN A CAGE AND HE DOESN'T REALIZE THAT BEING LOCKED UP IN THERE IS BAD,WHY WOULD he TRY TO GET OUT IF ITZ ALL he KNOWN AND he THINKs THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.?????

for those who dont understand this statment....its a metaphor for tha world we are living in.....we are all used to all tha lies we are told and have come to beleave them and evin worse we have come to exept them as the truth,theres a whole other world out there that most people dont know of or have very little knowledge of,we are living in a controlled environment of slavery type proportions and dont evin know it,everything from the goverment to taxes to all these man made laws are just ways of keeping us in check and under controll to a higher power,the people are being raped and are blind to see whats really goin on....



i could go on about this topic but i really dont have tha energy rite now


but on tha same note this prolly has to be the best thread ive ever seen on any website.....

one love to troll,
 
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i think stupid is coming in here thinking that this thread was meant to replace going to school..

care to debate anything i posted lobster?

i guarentee 1 of 2 things are going to happen.. your going to go back and actually READ what i posted instead of just jumping to talk shit.. your going to find that i posted shit that had sources and facts.. and your never going to return to this thread..

or..

your NOT going to pick one specific topic i brought up and instead just sit there and spout off about "conspiracy's"

watch.


i dont mind if people disagree.. but if you do disagree, and want to post in here saying you disagree... then be prepared to show me what you disagree about and back it up with sources..

you have been warned.


@filthdee, right on homie :)
 
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eNe_Lokzter said:
haha this thread stupid as fuck, if you want to be an educated homeboy go to school dumb fucks
So you can talk back to the teacher, get suspended, and in the end get kicked out anyways which almost 80% or more of the homeboys I knew in high school did. LOL
 
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now to be real im a drop out....i never graduated,i dont evin have a g.e.d but that dont make me less to any mothafucka,i hit a couple of bump in tha road yeh....im 22 and i really aint done nothin productive with my life,matter of fact im prolly goin to be back in jail come tha 13th of this month for violating my probation....im not gonna say this is right and this is wrong but i am going to say there are other ways of educating youre self in other aspects....to gain knowledge on how to fight and find youre place in socity....in other words i only educate my self in things i beleave in not what they tell me to......some call me a loser,some people say im crazy....i could give a fuck what tha world things about me,what tha they need to worry about is what i think about tha world and what ima do about it......
 
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eNe_Lokzter said:
been warned???? haha dumb ass internet thugs, like i said if you want to be educated go to school dumb fucks
YOU DONT LEARN SHIT IN SCHOOL... IT TOOK ME UNTIL 11TH GRADE TO ACTUALLY LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT HOW THE INDIANS GOT FUCKED OVER, AND THATS CAUSE THE TEACHER KNEW HE WAS GONNA GET FIRED SO HE DECIDED TO REALLY TEACH US SOME SHIT.... SCHOOLS WILL NEVER TALK ABOUT THE TRUTH BEHIND HOW OUR GOVERNMENT DID SO MANY PEOPLE BAD...FOLKS TALK ABOUT AB LINCOLN FREEING THE SLAVES AND SHIT, BUT COME TO FIND OUT HE DIDNT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THEM, HE ONLY DID IT TO WEAKEN HIS ENEMY (THE SOUTH), AND THIS WAS AFTER YEARS IN THE WAR
 

Young M

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Lokzter don't get it let em be. some choose to learn others rather look away.........Every one has they own view of history loco there is always two sides of the story for every issue but being spoon fed by media, goverment etc etc is something i wont do.
 
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@lobster: i asked for you to show me what you disagreed with and you failed...

maybe education about how our government operates is something your afraid of.. which is fine.. because this is shit they WONT/DONT teach you in school.

i challenge you to debate me on anything ive posted up so far homie..


@redrum: right on folx.. i jus did research and decided to share, its suprises me how many people just deny everything without actually saying what it is they disagree with.. its like an automatic response..
 
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TROLL said:
@lobster: i asked for you to show me what you disagreed with and you failed...

maybe education about how our government operates is something your afraid of.. which is fine.. because this is shit they WONT/DONT teach you in school.

i challenge you to debate me on anything ive posted up so far homie..


@redrum: right on folx.. i jus did research and decided to share, its suprises me how many people just deny everything without actually saying what it is they disagree with.. its like an automatic response..
i learned bout indians being fucked and all the government being fucked up in school.