sup homies.. Some random Thoughts

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the problem is....muthafuckas with one type of hustle try to get into other hustles without proper knowledge and training....age dont got shit to do on nothin....nobody coached or nurtured me....nobody sat down and wrote one speck of ink on my paper....a muthafuckaa wouldnt put one single cent into a project if he/she didnt feel it was right...if it flops..its on you and your lack of hustle...and support from your team....its one thing to be a beatmaker and put out albums....its another thing to be a "LABEL" with a "STAFF" making sure all steps are taken correctly.....u can't go from C-Z......youll eventually have to go back to those steps later....all these so called "labels" need to look at their program and wonder.....am i equipped and ready for the competition??? am i gonna promote this shit so savage kindergartners to old timers gonna have a (this label here) tshirt or sticker?? or am i gonna sit on my ass....sit behind a computer...do half ass shows that werent self promoted...expect the artist to be a artist/a&r/street team/janitor/politician??? everybodys doin this independent shit.....but only a few know what to do.......its got to the point where muthafuckas expect so much out of an artists ...u got artists turnin ceo....cuttin the middle man out...all a ceo is doin is pocketin off someone elses dreams and skills...unless they can match the same talent....its all business......you dont just put your homeboy on the label if hes weak...you could meet a complete stranger and say....oooohhh he got heat...i wonder who he fuckin wit.......if it aint family orientated....no matter what it is....IT WILL NOT PROSPER.....all that artist/ceo shit is for the birds....cant nobody be higher than nobody when you all tryin to accomplish the same goal....muthafuckas is grown ass men.......nobody likes bein tested in any form.....when u get involved into personal business....thats where this game gets shady.......

and i cant speak for no one else....but i know this business.....recoupment...points....publishing (syko musick ascap)
(Sykologikal Warfare BMI) somma yall need to REGISTER!!!!! but these INDEPENDENT labels...are not playing by these rules......most of em arent..cause most of em aint gettin heavy rotation..and dont even expect to see a royalty check....they lookin for immediate sound scans....and if i print up 1000 CDS sell em for 10 a pop...WOW!! thats 10,000 tax free.....dumb niggas is doin the mathematics....lookin for that easy dollar...its like the lottery damn near.....u might hit...u might sit
 
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SYKO said:
you could meet a complete stranger and say....oooohhh he got heat...i wonder who he fuckin wit.......if it aint family orientated....no matter what it is....IT WILL NOT PROSPER.....all that artist/ceo shit is for the birds....cant nobody be higher than nobody when you all tryin to accomplish the same goal....muthafuckas is grown ass men.......nobody likes bein tested in any form.....when u get involved into personal business....thats where this game gets shady.......
Thats way to real.. I feal you about ridin with the family or nothin.. Beacuse even you close friends can turn business agianst you. I never placed my trust in nothing less. Good Words.
 

Mr. D-Sane

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A hustle is a hustle.......wether you're slangin' sacks, crack or CD's. I could be out sellin' cars if I wanted to. I could sell a fuckin' ice cube to an Eskimo. If you ain't got no hustle......you ain't gonna do shit. I'm a hustler.....who got stuck fuckin' with a bunch of NON hustlers. A bunch of mooches who are stuck depending on their mama's, girlfriends & homies to take care of them. People who expect everything to be handed to them because they don't understand the concept of working hard for what you want. People who have no values or morals.......no integrity or LOYALTY.

Sure.....it's true that I try to do too much around here and it takes time away from other shit. But there ain't 1 muthafucka that can say D-Sane is lazy and ain't doin' shit........I BUST MY FUCKIN' ASS. For what? To have a bunch of ungrateful, never were shit before they hooked up with me, little kids run my name through the mud? Thanks. Everybody wants a piece of the pie.....but they don't want to help bake it.

1 more thing.....with EVERYTHING.....and I repeat EVERYTHING in life.....there is a chain of command. Artist/CEO shit is for the birds Theo? That's because you don't like taking orders.....just like the rest of the shitheads. That's why you guys are incapable of getting real jobs and keeping them.....because you don't want to have to answer to somebody or be told what to do. Everybody wants to be a boss......but don't understand that you have to work your way up the ranks and prove that you can handle the job first in order to get that position.

Respect is earned.....not given. People might not like my tactics.....but I get the fuckin' job done. And if everybody would have played their position correctly and did as they were told......SLR could be a MAJOR factor in the west coast rap game right now. But noooooo......muthafuckas have better things to do like.......drink.....smoke weed all day.....chase hoes......play PS2.....rob people for BULLSHIT......go to jail......go to prison.....hate on each other. Why would people rather do that stupid-ass shit than invest in their future and work together with other people who are workin' their ass off to get somewhere? People are delusional about the rap game......and I think it's just finally starting to dawn on them how hard this shit REALLY is. And in the end......you might not like me or my attitude.......but you WILL respect my hard work and dedication to this shit.

I WILL prosper........with or without you.

P.S. I'm not trying to argue or talk shit......I'm just trying to make some points. I'm tired of arguing with people.
 
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Since we all lettin frustrations out and shit.....my turn!

What is it with CEOs being more worried about building their company up than paying their artists more? Dont they understand that a happy worker is a good worker?

Why is it that if an album sells 1000, and the follow-up doesnt sell at least 2000 that the CEO sees it as a step backward? If they're worried about profit margins, why cant they just lower the budget, and shoot for 1000 again?

Ill probably get my head bitten off just for these 2....so ill stop there :)
 

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Re: Re: I'm ridin' for MS!!! That's my folks.......

tadou said:
now, what were you saying again? THat shoreline CC was somehow more special or somethin? "Riiiiiiight", as you might say.
Did I fail to mention that Shoreline has an award winning Audio Engineering program and is one of the best courses in the state? Sorry if you missed that. :rolleyes:
 

Mr. D-Sane

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Re: Since we all lettin frustrations out and shit.....my turn!

tadou said:
What is it with CEOs being more worried about building their company up than paying their artists more? Dont they understand that a happy worker is a good worker?

Why is it that if an album sells 1000, and the follow-up doesnt sell at least 2000 that the CEO sees it as a step backward? If they're worried about profit margins, why cant they just lower the budget, and shoot for 1000 again?

Ill probably get my head bitten off just for these 2....so ill stop there :)
What is it with dipshits like you who don't understand that it takes money to make money? SLR has been profitable.......and every last fuckin' dime went right back into it (obviously). Everybody liked to say that we were a "team" and we're all in this together.......but in the end.......all I heard were a bunch of "I's" and "me, me, me." Everybody around this shit was only worried about 1 thing......themselves. All that "team" talk was a bunch of hot air.

And on a sidenote......ANYBODY that says that they never seen no money from me is a muthafuckin' LIAR. It may have came in the form of CD's to slang..............but that had 2 purposes.

1) Put some money in the artists pockets and

2) PROMOTE the god damn project in the process!

In the record business.....the artist is SUPPOSED to get paid LAST! Not first. But what did I do everytime a project would come back from the printers? Break people off with units and tell them...."go ahead and keep the money for yourself." But these fools think that I'm over here raking in all kinds of money......and that ain't the case. It takes MONTHS if not YEARS to recoup on these projects!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But muthafuckas want to get paid before I even make a fuckin' dime??? And I paid for the whole shit??? Hahahahahahaha.......riiiiiiiiiiiiight. Take Business 101 and learn somethin'. Shit........buy an ounce of dope and learn somethin'.....it's pretty fuckin' BASIC and ELEMENTARY.
 

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real talk D-Sane....

Some people will NEVER understand, regardless of what schooling they have or think they have... MONEY is worth more than anything. PERIOD. You can;t tell me shit until you put YOUR own MONEY into a project. Not .. "i put my time.. i wrote the lyrics... i made the tracks..." MONEY talks and bullshit walks.
 
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Aight....aight, i FINALLY figured it out....im finally understandin why im disagreeing with you two so much......right here:

Originally posted by og MS MONEY is worth more than anything. PERIOD. You can;t tell me shit until you put YOUR own MONEY into a project. Not .. "i put my time.. i wrote the lyrics... i made the tracks..." MONEY talks and bullshit walks.
You both live under the ideology that money can buy everything, including success; I, however, live under the ideology that money is secondary, and the most important thing is integrity.

I guess now it all makes sense. I have the mind of a bright, new artist, wanting to get his music out to the masses; others have a money-hungry mind that revolves around the dollar bill. If you combine those 2 things, now you should be able to see the conflict: I make music for the entertainment value, and others make hip-hop for the money.

There really is no switching someone over once they've made a committment to either side, so i wont bother trying. Hopefully, you will both get all the money you can handle, and then some. Good luck.
 

Mr. D-Sane

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og MS said:
real talk D-Sane....

Some people will NEVER understand, regardless of what schooling they have or think they have... MONEY is worth more than anything. PERIOD. You can;t tell me shit until you put YOUR own MONEY into a project. Not .. "i put my time.. i wrote the lyrics... i made the tracks..." MONEY talks and bullshit walks.
You know what kills me even more MS? Not only did I put my money into all these projects......but I ALSO made most of the beats......I did ALL of the recording, engnineering & mixing......I wrote and rapped on alot of songs......AND I did the graphic design for most of the projects and fliers. What do I get for all that hard work? We already know the answer......:(
 

Mr. D-Sane

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tadou said:
Aight....aight, i FINALLY figured it out....im finally understandin why im disagreeing with you two so much......right here:

You both live under the ideology that money can buy everything, including success; I, however, live under the ideology that money is secondary, and the most important thing is integrity.
You claim to be so intelligent sometimes......but then you act like the biggest idiot on the planet sometimes.

Let's get elementary for a minute so that all the delusional dumb-asses of the world can understand it. The word for today boys and girls is BUSINESS.

busi·ness - n.

1. Any particular occupation or employment engaged in for livelihood or gain, as agriculture, trade, art, or a profession.

2. Financial dealings; buying and selling; traffic in general; mercantile transactions.

We are in the *MUSIC BUSINESS* (the key word here being BUSINESS) Tadou......it's ALL ABOUT MONEY. If it was just some HOBBY to me.....I wouldn't be on here right now. I wouldn't be pressing up CD's to SELL commercially and I wouldn't be INVESTING money. Money makes the world go 'round......the sooner you learn that.....the sooner you figure it out. I used to be like you......I just liked doing music because it was fun.......but after enough people came up to me and told me I should be gettin' *PAID* for it......I realized my calling in life.

I'm not money hungry to the point where I let it control me......but I am very aware as to what the world is about. Get a clue tiger.....we all need to make a living at something.....might as well be something we LOVE doing.....right? And if you can make anywhere from hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars doin' it........WHY NOT? As long as you're fair to the people you work with (which I am.....they may not think so....but what do they know?) and don't fuck people over in the process.....then that's GOOD BUSINESS.
 

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You both live under the ideology that money can buy everything, including success; I, however, live under the ideology that money is secondary, and the most important thing is integrity.
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MONEY pays bills... Integrity doesn;t ... go figure.
 

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Let's hope it can buy you a good education, that way you can mingle amongst the diplomatic bigwigs of corporate America and come preach to us about the fringe benefits of having that almighty degree!
 

SYKO

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im not at all tryin to argue....but u sit up here and use "they" knowing your referring to your old label mates.....1st off.....its not about taking orders....thats where u had the game fucked off in the first place...i could see if you was on some russell simmons shit....but we was all in the same boat.....YOU in fact were trying to be captain of the ship...but damn near everybody aboard knew how to drive the same muthafukin ship...#2 i dont depend on nobody....EVERYBODY in this life goes thru hard times.....you keep tryin to throw dirt here and there...but who was really out "hustlin
" and i aint talkin about no pety weed sales....the "roster" was out in the streets tryin to eat good while u posted up at the home actin like a broad...talkin behind folks back about what they doin....i aint never expected shit in life....and everything i get...im grateful for...but i have the right to be ungrateful to ungrateful muthafukas who take my kindness for weakness...you had the AWOL of seattle basially...and fucked it off....you sit and talk about the business....and try to give pointers and shit....but your just like the next cat waitin in line to shine.....#3 what u expect us to do..?? sit around and take orders from D-sane.?? who has more mood changes than a bitch on her cycle...one night its fuk byrd...then its i love em we gonna make it...another second its fuk this game...im movin to cali to start all over...then its.. street level...the odysea...i mean cmon now potna....do a full evaluation...any CEO knows that he/she has to deal with an artists full time....attitudes..egos....language..thats comes with the territory of being a ceo...but being that we was all "folks" we didnt even trip off that shit...it was D-sane...who threw more power trips than i could count...thats where the whole "suge white" joke came in...cause u was so serious about controlling all of us....another thing i look at is...how one man of the click gonna eat steak while we all eat soup??? there was times a muthafuka couldnt git a drink of water in your house...put up on this put up on that...you would even meet half your closest folks to sell em no bomb...small shit just adds up....YOU had the hardest roster to come along in years......to build that back up is gonna take some years.....if i was constantly sittin on my ass..blowin weed...chasin hoes....goin to jail....why am i so busy workin?? and appearing on more projects than the average?? what have u been doin the past year???? nobodys kickin dirt up on your name its just the simple and plain fact "THERES 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY" My album was a banger...NW classic to some....but you didnt take time to put time into my shit...except the recording and mastering.....there was no planning into my shit it just dropped...and it was on the net 3 months ahead of time....Check mp3.com til this day.....theres more than 150,000 plays (i think) u can find sykotherapy on kazaa and all other kinds of shit....the album did bad in numbers....but damn...i got fans from louisville KY to Macon, Ga...and not from the siccness....all from ME politickin...sendin boxes to relatives......goin out to functions makin my presence known...polyin hard outta state...to where now...muthafukas is lookin for that next SYKO.....i cant say you did too much to make my album a success....Mr. CEO..and even in stores....muthafuckas was stealin the album...and to this day..alot of people got MY album...either a burnt copy...or a stolen one....real talk
 

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^^^ real talk! Minus the personal shit that i wouldnt know nothin about......

I aint about takin orders either...im about working as a TEAM. Imagine if the Lakers got a new coach this year, and the coach tried to come in, COMPLETELY re-work the team, and tell THEM all what to do...they'd look at him like he was crazy!! Even though this is an extreme example, it still demonstrates my basic opinion: I see the manager as the '13th player', so to speak; a knowledgeable player that mostly sits on the sidelines, and gives people an idea of how well they're playing and what they could try to improve--NOT just telling them what they SHOULD and SHOULDNT be doing! See the difference?

A Coach/CEO's job, "in my humble opinion" (the new phrase! :classic: ), isnt to dictate everything, and tell you when to shit and when to pee...they're supposed to lay out plans and explain them until they make sense to EVERYBODY, so the WHOLE COMPANY can move towards similar goals.

Its all relative...you know?
 

Mr. D-Sane

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Syko......where would you be right now if it wasn't for me? Amerikkkan Syko has been supposedly in the works and was supposed to have dropped for 2 years now.....I repeat.....2 years. Where is it? Who knows......

Do you remember WHY we did "Sykotherapy"? Because you were unhappy that Hoggin' N Doggin' had put you on the back burner and you knew it was gonna be hella before your shit came out through them. So ME......being the cool muthafucka that I am suggested that WE do a Syko project and I would put it out (i.e. pay for it). WHY? Because I liked you.....I think you're hella talented....and I felt that you needed something to help you bounce back from the Warpath bullshit. *Plus*......keep your name in the streets until Amkerikkkan Syko dropped and keep you working. (Thus doing YOU a HUGE favor.)

You wouldn't even be on this website right now if it wasn't for me. Nobody would know who you are right now if it wasn't for me putting your album out. You would still be waiting for your Amerikkkan Syko to drop.....and wouldn't have shit to show except for the Warpath releases. So you HAVE TO admit that you didn't lose shit by fuckin' with me. You gained ALOT from fuckin' with me (knowledge-wise and exposure/promotional-wise).....and I gained a little from fuckin' with you. SLR was already a household name before you.....so don't act like you did something major for the label. You did HELP though......and I DO appreciate everything you brought to the table.....whatever form it took. So know that I am NOT ungrateful for what you did contribute.

I've had to deal with too much bullshit from *you guys* over the years though and I got sick of it. I outgrew all of you. I'm more mature and responsible than ANY of you have EVER been.....and I got tired of playing babysitter. I'm a much nicer person now that I don't have to deal with all the daily drama & fake shit.....wanna-be bangers.....wanna-be thugs......2 faced punks talking about each other on albums - but are too bitchmade to say it to the persons face. At least I ain't afraid to say the same thing to somebodies face that I will say behind their back.....and you KNOW THIS.

I fuck with my rillaz now......Skunt....151....Dividenz.....Crytical.....Sarkastik....YV. People who aren't preoccupied with being "Thug of the Year" and always trying to show off and show out for people. Fuck that Hollywood shit. People who keep it REAL and have RESPECT for people that help them......and are genuinely GOOD PEOPLE. People who don't EXPECT the next man to take care of them and APPRECIATE everything they get. And guess what??? We get along great! We have a mutual respect for each other and nobody crosses the line.

Remember this Theo.......REAL muthafuckas from the streets are trying to get out of the streets. FAKE muthafuckas are trying to get into the streets. You can tell who ain't from the streets and who is. I don't know about you and some of the people you kick it with......but I'm trying to get out of the streets....me and my folks spent too many years there.

I'm glad to see you're working by the way.......keep it up. You have the talent to be successful.....it's your maturity and mentality that has always made me question you. You're gonna grow up eventually.......and one day you'll understand why I did what I did and why I acted that way. And why I had to move on...........