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Nov 27, 2002
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Mcleanhatch said:


????? kind of reparations
Reparations for American citizens who were not defended by our own military. We pay our military to defend us, not to import drugs like cocaine so that they can flood neighborhoods with cheap, highly addictive poisonous drugs like crack. The Federal Government should be held liable for the illegal activies of Ollie North in the Iran Contra affair. Some say the federal governement should also arrange reparations to the descendants of slaves or to the internment of Japanese Americans during WW2. Those are separate issues to what I am talking about here. If you or your company injured or stole from another person illegal, you would be held responsible. The federal governement already admitted in the Iran/Contra affair that they sold drugs in California cheaply to finace illegal weapons deals with Iran and the South Anerican Contras. How we gonna justify killing and imprisoning our own American citizens to make money off wars in other places? The military "acting against orders" made deals with drug dealers living in poverty here in California to do their dirt, then turned around and snitched them out after all their money was made. What the fukk? Don't anybody else have a problem with that?
 
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What burns me is that people with legal health insurance can feel pretty much the same effects of drugs without their toxic poisionous deadly cancerous components. Mental health medication like prozac, ritalin, wellbutrin and others all fukk with the nuerotransmitters that make your brain run. Those are the EXACT SAME nuerotransmitters that illegal drugs affect like cocaine, speed, PCP, and ecstasy!

It's no wonder that a lot of ppl suffer from unnatural anxiety and depression after seeing whole neighborhoods devastated by the effects of what the government flooded our neighborhoods with. The abject poverty that comes along with addiction is compounded exponentially by the court system that claims they are solving the problems by fining the fukk out of already poor and helpless people who can barely function and are already having health problems that probly wouldn't exist if all the foods we eat weren't made up of artificial chemical additives instead of real once-living cells. How we gonna think normal when we don't get to eat what real brains are supposed to be made of?

Different levels of those nuerotransmitters (dopamine and seratonin) can cause you to feel happy, sad, high, calm, anxious, excited, angry, in pain, or blissful pure joy. People with access to health insurance can legally regulate their moods, while people that don't have access can't help themselves with anything but what they find on the street that the government admitted their underlings put there in the first place. The legal prescriptions from my experience are ten times worse overall because they don't even help people think quick, they just numb anxiety and cause a stupified feeling, at least for me. It almost makes me cry, but I am too mad for that, and I make myself not care cuz I don't want to give anyone a reason to lock me up over that again.

Don't make drugs illegal--make them less toxic and more cheaply available and you wouldn't have most of these problems. Watch a good tweaker working hard and you'll likely find a happy, productive person until the toxins in the drug drive him crazy.

The government sees the whole illegal drug thing as a way to suck the life and the money out of people who have problems the government caused during Iran/Contra, and they don't even want to help.
 
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Nobody's Biz said:
The Federal Government should be held liable for the illegal activies of Ollie North in the Iran Contra affair.
Oliver North was just taking orders. he was also found not guilty wasnt he?

Nobody's Biz said:
The federal governement already admitted in the Iran/Contra affair that they sold drugs in California cheaply to finace illegal weapons deals with Iran and the South Anerican Contras
they did. because i have never heard that. is therre any way you can supply sources so i can check them out???
 
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Ollie North admitted his guilt but protected the president from blame by taking responsibility for his actions and apologizing. That doesn't mean that what he did wasn't illegal...

I'd like to know how the government can knowingly make drug deals with ppl here on the pretense that it will help our military and then turn around and bust the same non-military ppl working for them, under the guise of improving domestic communities.

As a private citizen, if I were rolling with someone from the Homeland Defense Department today, for instance, should I be held legally liable for their apparant crimes which aren't actually "crimes" if committed by the military serving a higher purpose? Am I supposed to pretend it's OK or that the same laws don't apply to them as to me because I am not military? Should I pretend I don't know who's military and who isn't? What if they commit crimes as part of their job, but anyone not military who helps a homie gets caught in the crossfire of a covert operation? Way back in the 80s, that's what Iran-Contra seemed to cause all over California to me. Is there anything in place today to keep the same "Freeway Rick" shit from happening all over again?

I ain't the one to be nobody's martyr for no reason. I don't have time for that shit. I'd be lost without believing in doing the right thang by my tru down homies.
 
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Oliver North was just taking orders. he was also found not guilty wasnt he?



they did. because i have never heard that. is therre any way you can supply sources so i can check them out???
You don't know how to run an engine google search on "The Dark Alliance" and "Freeway Rick" yourself as I posted earlier? Where were you in the 80s, during the Iran/Contra Ollie North hearings, watching Mr Roger's Neighborhood? LOL

Here's one of hundreds of links: Educate yourself, then spread it to others who still don't know. If you don't trust the myriad media reports, ask the local OGs anywhere in Cali, or give a listen to Public Enemy, NWA, Tupac, Tech N9ne, or Woodie. They and many others can set you str8.

http://home.attbi.com/wsb-cgi-bin/s...4&GroupID=92094&Owner=gary.webb&SiteID=308729

http://gary.webb.home.attbi.com/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html
 
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'Up to 20 kilos a week'

The affidavit also said Blandon was delivering ''up to 20 kilos a week'' to a Nicaraguan cocaine dealer named Ivan Arguellas ''who in turn sells mainly to blacks living in the South-Central Los Angeles area.'' It said Blandon ''uses a beer bar at Central Avenue and Adams Street in Los Angeles to distribute as much as 10 kilos of cocaine per week.'' Arguellas was described as being ''confined to a wheelchair as the result of being shot (in) a drug-related incident.''

^^^^^^ now that is hella funny. i just started reading but i hope that they were pushing more weight than that cause that isnt going to help the contras. i mean if that is the case this guy Blandon is a fuckin small timer. 20 keys a week. LOL i got friends that fuch with triple digits 100, 200 at a time every week.
 
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^^^^ if that were true, that is not a smart thing to say online. you can be found i am sure by the fbi or atf if they are monitoring this site. and yes, that is small time.

and all of this is bullshit and i dont' feel sorry for the mothafukkas addicted to drugs unless you were born a crackbaby. i grew up with shit being sold out of my house day in and day out. coke, crank, weed, some crack, and i have never used the shit, ever. so if you picked up the habit, it's on you. you made the decision to try or use the drug. it's not like a task force went into the hoods and injected people with heroin, get real
 
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Ya might not feel the same as me, but I kinda feel like we're creating a whole new generation of pre-addicted crank and coke heads by tinkering with Ritlain, Wellbutrin, Xanax, and other psyche meds on kids. Ritalin is basically low-level meth, and fucks with seratonin and dopamine levels in the brain, making someone who comes off Ritalin a whole lot more likely to be addicted to speed & crack later when their mommy's health insurance runs out. Once you get on it, not being on it makes you so slow and stupid you some days can't get out of bed or tie your shoes. I do feel sorry for a lot of addicts, even tho I never got addicted myself. I see your point about personal responsibility, but I feel like it's raw to expect it from most youngsters who never had a chance to get a good raising right, but got tricked by those Ollie Norths makin money off 'em.
 
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that's why it's on older homies too to let kids know. even when i didn't give a fuck about anything and was not a Christian and would bang on a scrap in a second, i still told kids to do something with theirselves and not to look up to me and my homies and what we do. i always told the kids to go to church and stay away from drugs and do well in school and don't join a gang regardless of what my affiliation was, because regardless of what i do, i dont' wanna see a good kid turn his life into something bad and i hope one day a man will look back on his life and thank me for having said the things i said all those years ago when he has his wife and kids. it is one thing to respect a homeboy or gangmember, it is another to idolize and want to be one you dig? same thing goes for drugs and all that.
 
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CHRISDOGG14 said:
^^^^ if that were true, that is not a smart thing to say online. you can be found i am sure by the fbi or atf if they are monitoring this site. and yes, that is small time.
ya i know but these friends are invisible for the most part and spend alote of time in Mexico and are set up over there just in case some day they gotta get up and go. plus they got songs written about them and what they do that are very popular here in the valley (209) and the bay. in these songs they tell you their names and what they do and all that so it aint i big deal i guess.
 
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@ mcleanhatch
hey are those spanish songs that your talking about cause I have a homie that swears and has should proof that Chalino Sanchez wrote a corrido about. Thats crazy cause in narco corridos they'll break it down on a persons history in drugdealing. Alot of the times at least back in the day drugdealers would pay ppl to write songs about them.
 
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and seriously my thread went nowhere fast. no diss though. seriously vamps you should have a conspiracy theory section on the siccness. that motha fucka would blow up big time.
 
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FC ENE said:
@ mcleanhatch
hey are those spanish songs that your talking about cause I have a homie that swears and has should proof that Chalino Sanchez wrote a corrido about. Thats crazy cause in narco corridos they'll break it down on a persons history in drugdealing. Alot of the times at least back in the day drugdealers would pay ppl to write songs about them.
which song/s are you talking about.

i know the Ligero brothers and some of their xrew. they are from Fresno
 
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FC ENE said:
@ mcleanhatch
Alot of the times at least back in the day drugdealers would pay ppl to write songs about them.
some of my friends have had songs made for them by Los Origiales de San Juan (otta fresno area), los amos de nuevo leon, Hermanos Jimenez, and Raza Obrera
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


they hault the printing of money to stop inflation (look at what the money is worth in Mexico). <-- that is what happens when you print to much money


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lets see, maybe it was a gift from france upon our independance as a show of good will from the people of france. especially since alote of our ideas came from them (the french) and they helped us alote against the English. [/B]
What do you know about Mexico's economy?
Former president Salinas fucked the Mexican economy over by stealing money and fleeing hiding away some where.

Now abou the statue of Liberty, yeah it was a gift from France.
But my point is that it is there to give a false sense of freedom.
Speach ain't shit compared to actions!
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


i am the skeptical one, and the burden doesnt fall on me it falls on you , you are the one trying to prove something


maybe they are the bad guys?????
Well I listed my theories and the facts supporting them.
So far you haven't listed anything supporting your beliefs.

And are you implying that MacMall and Tupac are the bad guys for uncovering the truth?
Who's side are you on anyway?