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Pilot the emperror of Rome did it because that is what the public demanded.
You've seen Gladiator, the emperror does what ever the public wants just to keep them happy so that he can remane highly regarded among them.
He even told the people in front of Jesus that he had nothing against Jesus. He was only going to crucify him because that is what the people wanted....

Read the bible, the Jewish Pharicees and teachers of the old testament handed him over to the Romans.
They plotted his death, it's all in the bible.

You have to understand that the Jews thought Jesus was sent by Satan. Because Jesus targetted the early church for being hypocrits and currupt.
He exposed them to the public, thus they had him killed.
Jesus changed the law of the old testament, the ten commandments, he made them stricter.

The old testament tells you to love your neighbors and hate your enemy.
Jesus made it tougher and said that you have to love your enemies as well.
The old testament teaches you to stone a woman who's infidel.
Jesus said that no one is perfect enough to stone the woman.

This went against the fundamentals of the old testament,
the rules the Jews live by.
And when Jesus performed miracles in front of them,
they thought he did it out of dark powers.
Jews never believed he was the Messiah to come.
It was actually the gentiles who accepted him, the enemy of the Jews.
It's ironic how Jesus was the promised one for the Jews.
He came to save them, but they killed him. And it was the Jews' enemies who embraced Jesus Christ....
 
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u lucky if this gets through to more than 1 person loko, but i respect ya for havin the balls to speak on it....shitz been goin on since the beginning, its sad...
 
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REEDLEY ALWAYS PUTS IT DOWN

CHECK IT FC ENE I STILL LIVE IN FRESNO COUNTY AND ITS GOTTEN WORTH .THERES MUTTS IN FRESNO OF COURSE,SELMA,LATON,FIREBAUGH,KERMAN,PARLIER,ORANGE COVE,HURON,AND KNOW THERES EVEN SOME TRYING TO POST UP IN DEL REY. THESE MUTTS ARE ALL OVER BUT HERE IN REEDLEY WE DONT SWEAT THEM. WELL I KNOW THERES A FEW IN REEDLEY BUT THEY ALWAYS GET DEALT WITH,EITHER JUMPED BADLY OR SHOT AT. U KNOW WE DONT LET NO MUTT HOOD EXIST IN REEDLEY. SHIT THERES ONLY A FEW OF US BUT WE PUT IT DOWN. THE POPULATION HERE IS 40,000 SO ITS A SMALL CITY TO MOST OF U.BUT I AINT GONNA LIE WE HAVE A LOT OF PAISAS FROM MEXICO OVER HERE BEING SCRAPS.SO WE HAVE TO FIND TIME TO FUCK SOME SCRAPS UP AN THEN ALSO FUCK UP SOME OF THE TRANSFORMED HOMEYS WHO TURNED MUTT. SO THATS HOW IT IS LIVING IN A SMALL HOOD IN THE 5559. WELL IM OUT THAT 559 RIDER BIG DEEBO RIVER SIDE REEDLEY XIV
 
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yeah leader you pretty much said the right expression. Norte is the road less traveled in Fresno. they are the majority in fresno now. they run fresno but norte still is there and there are alot of homies that still want in on the norte car. Plus towns in Fresno county are showing more unity. (DeeBo they said good things about REEDLEY) Its sad to say but around the county it seems like they are choosing the easy road too, fuck all you county dogs) I stayed true in the fresno on the east side when that mutt shit started and spinless fools cant spend a month in county jail without switching.
I went back to where I lived in Fresno (Illinois and Sixth street area) and I was suprised to see that TCB or The Chicali Boys were deep there. At first I passed by with some girl so I could show her where I lived and to my suprise some homies saw my 4 dots on my hand and they where like whut up where you frum as they pulled a red pano out. I was like from the past, thinking they were mutts. they were like TCB fresno norte to show northern luv ( I thought they where mutts) . I was like what up ene. told them about my past how I lived there and shit. we kicked it 4 a minute. They told me basically like this. Bulldogs run the county jail, big events like the Fresno county fair, carshow, and the cruising nights. They own the East side, Parkside(which is by Roeding park), North side, they own shitty towns that got swallowed by Fresno's growth(Malaga and Calwa), those are the parts that they own(drugs and other shit like that. but that the west side is run by Northerners and Crips. (at this time there is no C14 type unity but that they coexist) there are some surenos scattered all over fresno but that they have no varrio. some of the surenos are from La or Orange county orgin but they dont click. I havent heard of any MS or shit like that. Leader you'll trip some surenos(alot of LA or OC orgin) become mutts. they are called bluedogs. there are not a lot but they are growing. supposedly they are the same as bulldogs just that they originated from the south. (I dont know if this is true) Also bulldogs varrios dont get along unless they are locked up. They also get along to beat an ene or a scrap. Their philosophy is that they shouldnt have to pay taxes or pay attention to orders from upl north or south and that each dog walks his own yard. they believe that Fresno is another part of California. The worst part is that enes (and now scraps) are being sucked up into the no taxes or orders way of life. I seriously dont get it when fools from another town (sanger, parlier, or selma) claim bulldog. especially when they rode for Norte and hated sur, honestly I know enes that have killed or attemted muder on a scrap that come out of locked down a bulldog. which means now they hate norte as much as sur, and they killed for it b4. I seriously think that something has to change soon since now the mexican mafia put a green light on them. I mean now East siders make it known they hate scraps now by crossing out the S on their ESF tags. I used to think that they kicked it with scraps too, but I got sckooled. and now they want scraps to know green lights go on them to on Fresno streets. crazy shit. 3 forces going at eachother. mutts against ene and scraps and other mutts (0n the streets). enes against mutts and scraps. and scraps against scraps enes and mutts.
 

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Damn thats some shit them so-called "Surenos" doing that Bluedog shit. LOL @ "Another part of California". Crazy bulldogs still warring with their own varrios. Maravilla has alot of tension within itself too as a matter of fact. Nortenos are the only ones who are truly United and even then some slip through the cracks I hear. Surenos will never ever-ever-ever consider unifying cause it could never ever go down on the streets of LA (other areas of So. Cal maybe but no not here).
 
Jul 24, 2002
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FC Ene,

Yo I just want to apologize for taken your thread and jumpin it to another subject.
I just felt I had some shit I needed to let you and everyone else know....
Just had to get "some" of this weight off my shoulders....

Jose,
Read the bible bro, it's the best thing you'll ever do....
They didn't accept him because they expected a war lord who would save them only. What they got was a man of peace who was helping everyone who needed a helping hand.
Not what they expected...
 
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The Romans killed Jesus cuz he was a political threat to their empire. He was a revolutionary who lived with the poor. He was also Jewish and so were many of his followers, the whole anti-Jewish racism has nothing to do with being pro-Christian, thats just like how white slave masters used to say that blacks were descended from Cain. Racism applied to religion
 
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@miggidy
why didn't the jews believe Jesus was their savior? i mean, what were their reasons for rejecting him?
migidy pretty much got that. they were under the rule of the romans, they wanted a military leader that would break them out of being under rule of someone else. even after seeing the miracles he created, they didn't believe. some actually thought he was a demon because he did the miracles he had done. kinda messed up. for those who did believe, their lives were changed immediately, even those who seemed like they were the scum of the earth. a prostitute was forgiven in front of people and a feast, and a life long thief was forgiven on the cross next to Jesus at his dying moment after a life of sin, he was forgiven in his final moments because he knew Jesus was real and accepted his love with an open heart.

if you read the bible, don't read it like a normal book, start in the new testament as most of the stuff being talked about in here is in the new testament. the old testament is still good, but the new testament is what we live by. start with matthew or john. i really don't like to read, but if you approach the bible with an open heart, it is wonderful to read. i know alot of people hate reading like i do, but i love reading the bible. give it a shot
 
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Jewish people also thought he was just a prophet, they are still waiting for their savior, so they think. that's why alot of people don't like Jewish people. they were the chosen people, and they were the people that let him die. but he died for our sins, and his whole life he knew what had to be done, he knew when he was going to die, so you can't hate them for that, just hope they change. Jesus lived a sinless life to die for our sins. he paid the ultimate sacrifice for us. i am not trying to force any ideas on y'all. it's just how i feel and accept it due to what the bible says, and what the Lord puts on my heart
 
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@leader yeah I was tripping too on when I almost got into shit in SGV. like one fool screamed puente the other one said something else. its like they wanted to get into a fight with three people fighting eachother. if a sureno (paisa or southern cholo) ran into two enes from different varrios they would have delt with him for norte first varrio second. thats a trip to me. thats partly why they didnt have a chance to fuck with me. as far as the bluedogs thats even hard for me to believe. but I have heard from different sources about its existence. and the sources stress that only cholos with orgins down south are allowed into bulldogs. in other words they dont want fake scraps that dont know the history of banging. wheter this is true i dont know so dont quote me.

@miggidy. I aint tripping I admit I wish you hadnt cause I wanted more replys to my subject. but you speaking on god and though my views are different that whats said on here I aint even tripping. I can never say shit bad to someone speaking on god.
 

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i am a lil lost on that Norte First Varrio Second thing. I think I get what you are saying tho. If it came down to some shit down here and a Norteno was in the presence of two cholos from 2 different southern gangs (especially from the same general part of the city) I have a strong feeling the cholos would take one another out first because their rivalry is much more realistic.
 
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FC Ene,

I feel you dogg, well at least you're on the right path ya know?
There was a long as time when I didn't believe in god.
Hell, I even rebelled against him if there was one in the first place.

I gotta say, nothing but evil existed around me through those dark years. I was caught up with turf shit, beefin it with Surenos for steppin on my toes and shit....

But that's all in the past now.
About 2 months ago ha ha ha ha....

Shit got me to this point now where I'm at cuz I accepted the fact that there actually is a creator. You see all this time, we're looking for a sign. Evidence to prove that there is a god.....
We look but we can't find it.
Shit it's more like this, we look but we don't see it.
It's there in front of all of us.
Life, our existence in the first place, the Earth, the entire universe is physical proof that there is a creator.
Computers don't exist with a creator! Same principle with us humans. We just didn't evolve out of nothing.
Shit just doesn't happen on it's own.

Shit I remember coming here not long ago stating that I didn't believe in a creator. Well I realized how blind I was shortly after that.
Anyways, reason why I mention this is because you actually acknowledge that there is a creator.
Good, now it's time for the next step.
Which religion of the world is the real deal?
That was a question I set on a mission to find out for myself.
And if you're ready for it, it's something you might want to look into.

I never believed in Christianity being raised a Catholic.
I thought it was all bullshit! I couldn't accept the bullshit, elders told me about Christianity.
So with that, it made me stay away from it for almost my entire life. The point is, everyone now days, think that Christianity is bullshit. Maybe you might feel that way and I don't blame you.
Chris you're probably with me on this one, It's those people in charge of runnin Christianity that are at fault.
I picked up the bible for educational reasons. I picked it up to prove it wrong.
And fuck! I was so wrong about it.
Right off the back, I noticed that the shit I was taught about Christianity was a bag full of shit.

Anyways, that shit changed my whole mentality on life.
I found the answer to all my questions.
What is the meaning of life, why does God allow so much evil in the world, why doesn't god just help those in need, and so on....
All the answers are in the bible.

Now ain't that a bitch!
No one ever pointed me out to those answers.
But I feel fortunate to have even given the bible a chance in the first place.
It all got started a couple months ago.
Now I can't put the bible down.........

And don't think that it's just because I joined something that gives me a sense of belonging. That I'm like this because I found something good in religioun.
Naw dogg, I looked at every other religioun in the world.
And none can hold to the bible. It's the real deal, not only did I research it but I actually looked into other religions as well.
Hell, my baby's mother is Muslim.
Crazy shit.....

Why am I tellin you this shit?
Cuz I can feel what you are going through. Shit my uncle got shot in the head last month, murdered in cold blood.
Not long ago I had some fucking Surenos in front of my house with ski masks talkin about blastin one of my little bros....
Ain't that a bitch....
I was in the middle of retaliating when my friend at work gave me a bible with my name on it........
And that's how it got started....

I ain't promisin the world.
But fuck, just when I thought all hell got broke loose....
Everything fell back into place....
I can now sleep.....
I can now rest my mind knowing that there actually is a greater power out there looking out for us....

Peace homie,
Miggidy

PS.... I feel like a fucking corny, sissified, pussy ass, nerdy, puiny ass, goody 2 shoes, freak.... Postin shit like this.....
But I feel like I have to.....
I can't help it....
I guess I'm a fuckin corn ball, fuck it!!!!
 
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same goes for me on alot of the stuff you posted. you can't just ask God to give you proof that he is real without asking with an open heart. it wasn't until i decided to serve the Lord without him showing his mercy, that he really showed up in my life, and when he did, my life has turned 180 degrees. i am still tryna make my life better, but that's prolly just greed. no one on this earth is at a point in their life where Jesus won't forgive you of your sins. anyone can be saved, if you are sincere in asking so to the Lord. i love my homeboys, and i thank them with my life because i might not have made it to this point of spiritual happiness. i just wish they would follow my steps in the sand. i really can't ask for anything else in this life except for forgiveness of my sins day in and day out. i am not expecting a whole nation of people to change theri religious preferance after reading this, but i just hope these words fall on open ears. i am by no means to the point where i would go and kick it with some scraps, but their is peace in my heart, even with all the bullshit in this world. stay up homeboys, wherever you are when you are reading this. there is so much more out there for all of us, there is more than hood life and fukkin killing each other.
 
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miggidy said:

PS.... I feel like a fucking corny, sissified, pussy ass, nerdy, puiny ass, goody 2 shoes, freak.... Postin shit like this.....
But I feel like I have to.....
I can't help it....
I guess I'm a fuckin corn ball, fuck it!!!!
and i can see where you are coming from homie. i felt like that at first. i know i still know how to fight, but the inner peace i have is almost high enough to let me turn my cheek and let the person hitting me, hit me on the other side of my jaw you dig? one man's judgement on another man means nothing. all that really matters is that time of judgement at the gates of heaven. walk the straight path, and you'll have the last laugh. all the fools doggin me cause of what i used to be, and what i am now aren't the same thing will see why i changed if they either see the change in their hearts for themselves, or when their soul is rejected from heaven. i have no qualms about my decision to serve the Lord. on the other thread askin what would i do if someone wanted me to burn my rag........i think the only thing worth really dying for nowadays to me is my religion, family, or in a brawl to save a homeboy when the funk is on. i wonder how God would feel about choosing to die over a rag instead of cherishing the gift of life that he has given us? i can't even fathom that thought anymore. i am not really sure where i am even going with this, all i really know is God isn't happy with us as a people, i know that now, maybe someday we all will change. all i can really say is, stay up to all the homeboys out there, and just think about what life really means. the money and the broads and the power dont' mean shit. it wasn't i stopped being greedy and looking and hustling for the power, bitches and money that i really found the money, the woman i love, and the respect i should be entitled to.