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Tony

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Tony...and as I said.....
Man fuck that. I wouldn't sit my Qb. I would play his ass right away and let him learn with experience. He'll make mistakes and that's fine as long as he learns from them. As the year goes on he will improve.
 

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Depends on who gets brought in to handle the offense. I dont think Al will put up with a dip shit like Tom Walsh again tho.
That's why Tom got demoted in week 11. Al probably called the shot because dumb ass Art Shell was going to keep sticking with him even though his QB's were getting killed in his system. Naaaa Al won't fuck around with a bum like Tom Walsh. He can take his ass back to Idaho and hook up some hash browns and eggs.
 
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Tony said:
Man fuck that. I wouldn't sit my Qb. I would play his ass right away and let him learn with experience. He'll make mistakes and that's fine as long as he learns from them. As the year goes on he will improve.
You rush a guy out there, he may never recover. And with your line, that is a good possibility.

That's all I'm saying. No harm in letting a guy sit for a year and learn.

You pay the guy that much money...you might as well take the safe approach.
 

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You pay a guy that much money let him go on the field and produce. I wouldn't pay a Qb millions to sit and learn. You're acting like Russell will be playing under Art's system.... Art is gone! No more 6,7,8 sack games. Who ever Al Davis hires will have his work cut out but that's the challenge of becoming a head coach. I'd be worried about the o-line of Art was still coaching but he's not. The new coach will come in and take care of the o-line.
 
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Tony said:
You pay a guy that much money let him go on the field and produce. I wouldn't pay a Qb millions to sit and learn. You're acting like Russell will be playing under Art's system.... Art is gone! No more 6,7,8 sack games. Who ever Al Davis hires will have his work cut out but that's the challenge of becoming a head coach. I'd be worried about the o-line of Art was still coaching but he's not. The new coach will come in and take care of the o-line.
But I thought Shell was going to fix the line probalems from before he was HC.


Raiders had the problem before shell, and they will have it after shell.

You sit a rookie qb....Just like I said with Cutler! We started cutler and where the fuck did it gets us??????
 
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Tony said:
^I agree with you. But I still wouldn't pass on Russell. He's too good.
In college.

The talent is there.
THey said the same for Ryan Leaf.

Like I said he's doing things that NFL QB's are doing now.
Yea...IN COLLEGE.

Im sure if you let Peyton Manning go back down to play for Tennessee, he would be completeling 90% of his passes and would probably break the all time single season TD record.

You obviously arent understanding a word I type.

The fact is, in EVERY draft, you dont know what the FUCK yorue gonna get. End of story.
 

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Jesse fuckin' Rice said:
In college.



THey said the same for Ryan Leaf.



Yea...IN COLLEGE.


The fact is, in EVERY draft, you dont know what the FUCK yorue gonna get. End of story.
So what are you saying then?
 
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Tony said:
^So what you're saying is we should pass on JaMarcus Russell because of Ryan Leaf?
Did I say that?

What Im sayin is, your comparison is retarded.

"He is doing things now that NFL QB's are doing"

Yes...IN COLLEGE.

Your point is moot.

Maybe you should learn more about college football before you even attmept to go into NFL shit.
 
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Tony said:
So what are you saying then?
^^^ He´s saying there aint no guarantees in the draft. Ex: R. Leaf, R. Gallery, etc.

Just because a player is good/great in college, it doesn´t mean shit for the NFL. And if a player isn´t great in college, he might be great in the NFL. The NFL and College are two completely different games.
 

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Both of y'all are preaching to the got damn choir. For jesse rice I know enough about football period to tell your ass that Russell is going to be deep as fuck. Period! Fuck what you talking about. Check the highlight. He has a strong arm, pocket awarness, and a nice touch on his passes. I know football.
 

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Jesse fuckin' Rice said:
You dont know that. Youve only seen JaMarcus play at the college level, who knows what he'll be like in the NFL. He could be a total flop, it happens to QB's and just players in general, all the time. Just cus you are a stud in college, that means DICK at the pro level.

Look at Colston, he went to Hofstra for Christ sakes. Jerry Rice, possibly the greatest player ever, went to a Div 1AA school. Tom Brady barely exsisted at Michigan. Tomlinson went to TCU, a private mid-major.

Marques Tuiasasopo is the only player in Div 1 HISTORY, to pass for 300 yards and run for 200 yards in a game. What has he done in the NFL? Ryan Leaf was HIGHLY towded comin into the draft, as was Rick Mirer. Both were HUGE flops.

Good in college does NOT=good in the NFL.
It looks like you're saying Russell is going to be a flop. You're naming all of these busts... Why not name good quarterbacks that were number one picks too. Just because Leaf, Mirer, etc.. were busts doesn't mean Russell will be one too.

So what are you saying the Raiders should do with the number one pick since you know so much?
 
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Tony said:
Both of y'all are preaching to the got damn choir. For jesse rice I know enough about football period to tell your ass that Russell is going to be deep as fuck. Period! Fuck what you talking about. Check the highlight. He has a strong arm, pocket awarness, and a nice touch on his passes. I know football.
Homie, I watch college football religiously, in case you didnt notice the threads i made every week when it was football season. I also have been watching the NFL combine the last few years, and then i top it off by watching (or attemtping to) all 7 rounds of the NFL draft.

Again, he has a strong arm, pocket awareness, and a nice touch pass on his throws. HE IS STILL IN COLLEGE. What part of that statement is flying over your head?

My point is, just cus YOU saw him play in ONE game and listened to the anouncers talk about his arm strentgh (80 yards standing up, 60 on his kness and 40 sitting down), doesnt make you a fuckin NFL scout. Cut the crap. You know who else has a arm like that? Michael Vick. What has he done?:eek:

You come off wet behind the ears. The NFL combine hasnt even come around and youre talkin JaMarcus up like he is going to be the sole savior of the Raiders. Are you fuckin serious?

Why dont you sit back and wait like the rest of us so you dont look like a complete fuckin jack-ass. Thats all im saying.
 

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Jesse fuckin' Rice said:
Homie, I watch college football religiously, in case you didnt notice the threads i made every week when it was football season. I also have been watching the NFL combine the last few years, and then i top it off by watching (or attemtping to) all 7 rounds of the NFL draft.

Again, he has a strong arm, pocket awareness, and a nice touch pass on his throws. HE IS STILL IN COLLEGE. What part of that statement is flying over your head?

My point is, just cus YOU saw him play in ONE game and listened to the anouncers talk about his arm strentgh (80 yards standing up, 60 on his kness and 40 sitting down), doesnt make you a fuckin NFL scout. Cut the crap. You know who else has a arm like that? Michael Vick. What has he done?:eek:

You come off wet behind the ears. The NFL combine hasnt even come around and youre talkin JaMarcus up like he is going to be the sole savior of the Raiders. Are you fuckin serious?

Why dont you sit back and wait like the rest of us so you dont look like a complete fuckin jack-ass. Thats all im saying.
So fuckin' what... I don't give a fuck about you watching college football, and the combines. You act like you're a scout or some shit. Fuck what you talking about. What the fuck does Mirer, Leaf, and them other bums have to do with the Raiders drafting Russell? Not a got damn thing!

Bottom line... The Raiders drafting Russell is a huge step in the right direction.
 

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Jesse fuckin' Rice said:
Just like you, I dont know yet. Wait until the season is over before you start gettin al excited about college players.
You watch all this football but you don't know what the Raiders should do huh.... you're making yourself look like a jackass....

I know what the Raiders are going to do. They're going to draft JaMarcus Russell with the first pick. That's what I predict! What idiot is dumb enough to pass on a franchise Qb just because some other QB's didn't work out for other teams?
 

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Jesse you make no sense at all. You watch all this football but don't know who the Raiders should draft. If you watch all this college football, combine coverage, etc... you should have at least a prediction on who the Raiders might draft. By you telling me "I don't know" tells me a lot about your football knowledge.
 
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Tony said:
Jesse you make no sense at all. You watch all this football but don't know who the Raiders should draft. If you watch all this college football, combine coverage, etc... you should have at least a prediction on who the Raiders might draft. By you telling me "I don't know" tells me a lot about your football knowledge.
Dude, OPEN YOUR EYES.

THE COMBINE ISNT EVEN HERE YET. THE DRAFT ISNT UNTIL APRIL.

And you all ready to sign JaMarcus to a multi-year million dollar contract???Yeah, and they say Al Davis is losin his mind.

ANd dont talk to me about "knowledge", you bandwagon-ass buster. Ill run marathons around you when it comes to scouting.

What do you know about JaMarcus Russel???What do you know besides what you heard during their game against ND??Please..id love to hear this.I can guarntee you dont know SHIT.

The Raiders need ALOT of work. You think QB is the most crucial???Youre outta your fuckin mind.

Like i said, wait until the FUCKIN FOOTBALL SEASON IS FUCKIN OVER before you start jumpin to conclusions, youre makin yourslef look like a jack-ass, jack-ass...not me.
 
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Tony said:
You watch all this football but you don't know what the Raiders should do huh.... you're making yourself look like a jackass....

I know what the Raiders are going to do. They're going to draft JaMarcus Russell with the first pick. That's what I predict! What idiot is dumb enough to pass on a franchise Qb just because some other QB's didn't work out for other teams?
Wow, you really have no clue do you?