Throwing curve balls composed of your own distorted logic doesn't prove any inane point that you were seemingly trying to make, it only goes to show that you are indeed that obtuse since the context of this thread is about America. I thought this was obvious given the title, so expecting me to assume that you're talking about some other random, hypothetical country of white slaves is a ploy. You speak obscurely and criticize when no one knows what you're talking about, or when they rebut you and make you look silly, you dishonestly move the goal post and change your position. The only "slaves" apparent are those who are forced to deal with your incompetence on a daily basis. Thankfully that is not me..
No, you're a fucking idiot again who loves to cop-out and hide behind appeals to popularity. If you believe that I was buying into your childish antics, maybe you need to think twice about criticizing other people's beliefs as stupid. Trying to move the goal post and misrepresent what you meant in order to make it easier to knock down what I'm saying, isn't going to work as all one has to do is re-quote you.
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i also think the non-black population in the US tends to view blacks as focusing more on "you owe us for the past" than "we can move forward".
^Given the context, this would be completely irrelevant if not used to support your position, that you even repeat later on. So it is necessary to cast doubt on it. Be assured that I read you clearly but am not falling for your bullshit, subtle conservatism trash.. You're exposing yourself as a fraud to anyone who follows this closely..
Do you even know what a qualifier (not qualified) statement is?
LMAO at this geek quoting COMPLETELY out of context Malauna's point, but quoting an isolated 5 word phrase and omitting the previous and former with no preposition or conjunction. Alone it makes absolutely no sense. I used a citation for a reason since it would indeed seem like a strange statement without elaboration.
Re-quoting:
It also involves lifting Africans out of their own history making them a footnote and forgotten casualty in European history and thus limiting and denying their ability to speak their own special cultural truth to the world and make their own unique contribution to the forward flow of human history
^You are beyond pathetic, I can't believe you. Talk about reading comprehension; how ironic.
So? What does that have to do with blacks looking for reconciliation in a struggle for freedom? I also would definitely not give undue weight to those said whites who are notable, but not the predominant driving force. It was the political pressure on the ground. Ghandi had a lot of white supporters as well, but we don't attribute his success to them..
Pretty much baseless original research..
Who? This guy?
"You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exists between almost any other 2 races. Even when you cease to be slaves, you are yet far removed from being placed on an equality with the white race. you are cut off from many of the advantages which the other race enjoys. It is better for us both to be separated."-Abraham Lincoln, during a meeting with free Negro leaders- at the White House, August, 1862
^^Obviously white..
Also see: Was Abraham Lincoln a Racist?-CNN.com
^Yes, you once again exemplify simplicity... Ignorance is contagious so I recommend you restrict these radical views of yours to G.O.M...
I've never claimed to be a victim of anything actually, I speak for other people.
It had nothing to do with being "willing", there is just a little thing called law and order which is now being enforced. Many things then were either legal or overlooked that are illegal today and publicly condemned..
Afrocentric, maybe at times, but in what way did you infer any hint of black supremacy in my address to you? I honestly think you're harboring some ill feelings as indicated by your grasping at straws and wishful attribution. Your argument is falling apart with each reply..
It is an irrelevant fact/red herring as well, as demonstrated..
You have a difficult time then attacking what seems to be so naturally easy..
How does that reflect on your intellect?But it is irrelevant when the descendants of slaves are nowhere near as well off as the descendants of slave "masters". This is again, a red herring.
I think that you're perfectly aware of your dishonesty here. You misrepresent what I say purposefully in order to make it easier to criticize, when I've never implied or explicitly stated such a thing. This is your way of not fully conceding that I'm right, even though you do agree. Clever, but not clever enough.
Venting is a good thing..Let it out..
Now it's a "generalization" that blacks were systematically enslaved and discriminated against by whites? I've heard it all...
This is the root of your intentions I believe. He assumes that I hate white people and believes in his heart that slavery and discrimination/deprivation has absolutely nothing to do with the black disposition, therefore he believes that blacks must have come here destined forever to be stagnant, regardless of whether or not they came over here as slaves or were treated as equals from the very start. He believes that I should direct my seeming hatred towards black people, directing it inward and question why "my people" are such failures. It is a typical white supremacist argument mostly echoed by those laymen who have no educational grounding is sociology or world politics/economics. It is easy to see through since it is lazily asserted with no supporting evidence whatsoever. Truth by assertion fallacy and another appeal to popularity. "Most people" think this. Well most people honestly feel that white people are innately corrupt, demonic, and inherently evil; does that make it true? Most people believe in God, according to you, does that make it true? Belief is an artifact of wishful thinking and doesn't support your fallacious argument.
I'm glad..
The only thing I've proposed/requested was equal distribution of essential resources. How is asking for a drink of water, a plate of food, and decent schools and institutions devoid of personal or systematic racism asking for too much? The way that you assert so freely that black people are still slaves, coupled with this asinine post leads me to believe that you wish this were literally still true. Yet it isn't as I am clearly here owning you in a senseless debate whose premise shouldn't even be in question to non-racist rationalists.
I've answered the question directly, indicating what is missing which needs to be filled. I assume that you'd not like these things to come to fruition; you're against decent public schools, housing, condemning all forms of discrimination, clean streets and living conditions, while educating your kids on the history of racism and its perils. Yes, obviously this is not something you advocate as it is too much for non-equals to possess.
Those people such as you are merely looking for any scapegoat you see fit to avoid responsibility. It is a game which is why no one has faith in white people. They will always be seen and judged for their history and approach to it, aside from those enlightened who can actually sit down and take the time to discuss proposals and solutions. You also keep referring to "my ails" in specific as if I'm speaking for myself, which is another gross generalization and sign of arrogance, which is the biggest problem with the white community by far. Which is why they are despised and most blacks couldn't careless if they were open to anything or not, seeing as how they don't trust them either way and see them as snakes. You do nothing to quell that suspicion.
You're an idiot; the human condition is based on kinship and the ability to socialize and get along, which is how people made it this far. Battles for resources notwithstanding, but "race" its self is a social construct, it is not natural.
Please read, Frank Snowden. "Before Color Prejudice: The Ancient View of Blacks"
^Though it is apparent that you don't read mich so I won't hold my breath.
The concept that created the dichotomy is indeed false and unnatural, but it doesn't mean that it isn't a social reality, and therefore, white people don't exist, because they do and have done some very horrible things all across the globe, not just to black people (let's get that straight).. The only time that I see fit to discriminate is unfortunately against cretins such as yourself..
In other words..
How predictable and strikingly emotional, you immediately respond with a characterization of me.
I say: You're so simple. You say: No, but you're a canned character. Childish..
Huh? How thought provoking is your innate simplicity supposed to be?
Cop-out.. What again does this have to do with wealth?
* Have the highest intra-ethnic group homicide rate
* More prone to hypertension and other disorders connected to stress
* More susceptible to HIV infection/highest rate of infection
* Highest infant mortality rate
* Highest proportion of men in prison
* Lowest median household income in the country
* Worst standard of living
* Less education
* Lowest life expectancy
* Higher pregnancy rate among teen women
I'm honestly appalled by your ignorance.. People genuinely struggle to live day to day. Some of it self-induced, a lot of it a product of legacy, but for you to criticize the less fortunate makes it easier for me to think of you as gutter trash with the intelligence quotient of a sock. You're definitely not worth my time after reading that, I was right about you all along. You're a subtle racist with no ability to discern between morality and immorality, and have demonstrated to me that you are individually an inferior human being.. I honestly, truly believe that with every fiber of my being..
Actually, this is wishful thinking since I haven't agreed with one word you've typed.
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Of course I am, and you're wrong, as always..
No, it is time for whitey to stop using R Kelly as a scapegoat to support their two bit agenda and distract away from as to why there is a general lack of public awareness in predominantly black schools about sex ed, or the same push for it. Also, why liquor and blunts are more prevalent and why sex is so highly promoted from stereotypes of penis girth and conglomerate record labels marketing such bullshit through their uncle tom negro rappers. Black African queens surely do not get pissed on as a rule as that bizarre behavior is more consistent with the deranged tendencies of chemically imbalanced Caucasoids. The chemical degeneracies that probably lead to your high rate of homosexuality, rape, serial killing, ass/shit fetish, animal fetish, and whatever other gross shit white people come up with in their naturally twisted minds, the same minds that initiated slavery and vile oppression, which ultimately lead in a progression to segregated populations of minorities who still struggle playing catch up, also leading to individual insecurity and a need for compensation by way of sexual expression.
So just excuse FEMA, a company full of hard working, so-called educated and responsible people who are for the most part surely predominantly white? Our degenerate white president is not held accountable for his lack of urgency either? Shift responsibility to the black boy, huh? How convenient to your racist argument..
Recent evidence confirms the association between stress and hypertension. In one 20-year study, men who periodically measured highest on the stress scale were twice as likely to have high blood pressure as those with normal stress. The effects of stress on blood pressure in women were less clear. Job stress and lack of career success have been specifically linked to high blood pressure in both men and women. - http://www.well-connected.com/report.cgi/000014_5.htm
Hypertention and the related has deep roots in stress as well, like I've already stated...
- Racism and Hypertension Among African Americans
Or maybe the devil is white and just wants to fuck with me..
^Along with your own racist wishful thinking.. You also seem to do the opposite of what you accuse me of doing so what does that make you, a "slave master", or in other words, a proponent of the ideology that brings about such a moniker? I'd say so..
I'd rather just take what's mine instead of asking this said "white man" who has never gotten along with any other group of people on the face of the earth, therefore can't be expected to give two shits about black concerns either. As you've demonstrated by oversimplifying and displaying unwarranted arrogance in your futile attempt to "protect" the credibility of your vile ancestors..
I define myself through my sig and avy, as far as siccness is concerned.
Repetition again, is a sign indicating basically that you've ran out of things to say, so you repeat the same truth by assertion fallacy. You are also ranting right now.... I guarantee you that I'm a lot more free than you are, as is suggested by your obtuse closed-mindedness and lack of analytical ability. You parrot, repeat, cop-out, shun, and lie in a never ending cycle of stupidity. You are the lowest common denominator and I'm sure that the vast majority of whites would be ashamed of you.
No, I merely look for him to pay what he owes, and if not, it's getting taken.. Simple as that.. Thank you for your time, as worthless as it was..
