Questions for all Muslims
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I'm not in here to debate, but honestly STOCKTON I believe that you're just being a bit biased now. You're like 10 minutes into the debate and you already are looking for angels to attack Deedat, and I only wonder if you're going to do the same for Dr. Douglas, Swaggart, or which ever debate you're listening to right now. Because these dudes truly got owned by Deedat in almost every way, Dr. Douglas in particular (the "Is Jesus God" debate) couldn't even debate him with out getting upset, slandering Islam, and going off on a tangent...
You misunderstood my statement. I meant that all the prophets and messangers were sent to their own people or tirbes except Mohammad (saw). Meaning that their message was to their people, and they all preached the same thing, to worship the ONE God. This has nothing to do with tribal gods. There were over 120,000 prophets and messangers which were sent to their people because hundreds and thousands of years ago people were spread far apart. And when I said Mohammad (saw) was sent to all of mankind, he was sent unto the worst of people (the pagan arabs) but his message was to all of mankind. Within 80 years Islam spread to spain, and today 1 of 6 people are muslim, and Islam is present all over even in Cuba. That is my belief and to you is yours.
Khalid Yasin is NOT noi.
Khalid Yasin is NOT noi.
My opinion, not that it's qualified, but that seems to be an irrelevant question. You should be asking if the Qur'an promotes the distribution of its teachings through violence, just my opinion..
Here's a debate about Islam vs. Christianity, in the light of science..
http://www.shiachat.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t71569.html
^I couldn't copy the links to this (siccness) server.. Go here, find this debate in the first post..
Look for Zakir Naik - Qur'an And Bible In The Light Of Science Vs Campbell
(4 Parts)
Check out Ahmed Deedat's debates also..
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^Now, I consider myself to have a pretty scientific mind.. I encourage a lot of you guys asking these questions to watch a few of these debates as they've answered a lot of questions I've had already. IMO, the Qur'an makes a lot more sense (than the Bible) scientifically and logically so far.. Each debate I watch concerning Christianity vs. Islam, ends up in a lopsided victory for Islam, check it out for your self. People on Siccness can only answer so much, especially when you keep jamming them. A lot of these same exact questions are brought up in debates, from both sides..
Ahmed Deedat debates on google video:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Deedat#Videos
^These are mostly based on scripture alone...
Here's a debate about Islam vs. Christianity, in the light of science..
http://www.shiachat.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t71569.html
^I couldn't copy the links to this (siccness) server.. Go here, find this debate in the first post..
Look for Zakir Naik - Qur'an And Bible In The Light Of Science Vs Campbell
(4 Parts)
Check out Ahmed Deedat's debates also..
Save links as
^Now, I consider myself to have a pretty scientific mind.. I encourage a lot of you guys asking these questions to watch a few of these debates as they've answered a lot of questions I've had already. IMO, the Qur'an makes a lot more sense (than the Bible) scientifically and logically so far.. Each debate I watch concerning Christianity vs. Islam, ends up in a lopsided victory for Islam, check it out for your self. People on Siccness can only answer so much, especially when you keep jamming them. A lot of these same exact questions are brought up in debates, from both sides..
Ahmed Deedat debates on google video:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Deedat#Videos
^These are mostly based on scripture alone...
Now, if I waste my time watching these debates for a second time, point out misconceptions on both sides (especially when it comes to the use of hebrew and greek words), bring up the fact that Islam and the Quran have misconceptions about certain "christian" doctrines (the trinity for example), what will it prove? Nothing. People here will still believe as they wish and most will side step the issues, make up shit as they go along, delete threads, back peddle, exhibit hypocrisy or post more links to videos. Not many will learn anything new, and people will resort to the "oh you are trying to convert me" crap.
No way.
No way.
Nit picking over greek and hebrew words and the trinity situation doesn't excuse the fact that the Christian Doctors/reverends lost every single debate I've watched. There's very few ways to attack the Qu'ran in these debates if you actually did watch them all, all of the criticism was on the Bible and the Christians were found defending them selves (ineffectively) the whole way.. This indicates too many flaws for my comfort bro, the Bible shouldn't be that questionable to begin with imo. And shit, The way you talk you should of been the one debating these guys, because your Christian brethren definitely didn't do a good job.
When those who DEBATE place emphasis on the words and MISUSE them, they should be called on it.
No, it doesn't excuse the fact that they lost the debates. What it does do is show that those attacking the christian position are not as well versed as they themselves appear to be, and since they are not well versed, they should be scrutinized also. In regards to these people being destroyed they SHOULD have been destroyed. Anytime a person asks you about one of the greek words for "god", and you say "elohim" you DESERVE anything that happens to you in that debate.
And you base your findings on what? You understand the Quran and you have debate experience? One simple way to attack the Quran is by using history and the syncretism of religions. :dead:
And yes, I did watch them all.
Because they don't know how to debate. Sign up for my class and I'll set them straight.
see above.
No, it should be questionable. EVERYTHING should be questionable, and that is the beauty of life and all it offers. If nothing can be questioned how does learning occur?
If I ever cross paths with those muslim scholars I will. What I've learned about Islam was actually learned by reading the Quran, and by studying it with muslim friends of mine, a muslim business man, muslim students, and muslims in my area.
BTW, I'm not a christian. Never have and never will be.
No, it doesn't excuse the fact that they lost the debates. What it does do is show that those attacking the christian position are not as well versed as they themselves appear to be, and since they are not well versed, they should be scrutinized also. In regards to these people being destroyed they SHOULD have been destroyed. Anytime a person asks you about one of the greek words for "god", and you say "elohim" you DESERVE anything that happens to you in that debate.
And you base your findings on what? You understand the Quran and you have debate experience? One simple way to attack the Quran is by using history and the syncretism of religions. :dead:
And yes, I did watch them all.
Because they don't know how to debate. Sign up for my class and I'll set them straight.
see above.
No, it should be questionable. EVERYTHING should be questionable, and that is the beauty of life and all it offers. If nothing can be questioned how does learning occur?
If I ever cross paths with those muslim scholars I will. What I've learned about Islam was actually learned by reading the Quran, and by studying it with muslim friends of mine, a muslim business man, muslim students, and muslims in my area.
BTW, I'm not a christian. Never have and never will be.
Post all those videos you want, and keep side stepping my question. I'm not going Jimmy Swaggart on you guys, by twisting the Tongue Words, or just telling you God loves when I'm losing a debate. Jimmy Swaggart lost the battle when he said John 3:16 using the word Unique instead of Begotten, Jimmy Swaggart teaching false dogmas anyways. He should have addressed the same questions I posed here, if anyone has the email address to Ahmed Deedat, give it to me. I have learned a few things in this thread of exchange, and I'm willing to teach any muslim on here, but so far I get no satisfying Replies.
To Keep this going, I have one question, If you all can take time to pick you bibles up please and Read the Old Testament Book of Daniel
Chapter 9:38
He speaks about a Middle Eastern god, ASIDE FROM ELOHIM AND YAHWEH, remember this was BEFORE ISLAM, and this was BEFORE Mohammad or Allah ever existed. Chapter 9:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom HIS FATHERS KNEW NOT SHALL HE SHALL HE HONOUR
(Ok folks, what does this tell you about this Middle Eastern God? How could this Man whom Daniel speaks about Honor this god which his fathers did not know? Did the Early Arabs Know Mohammad or Allah? Nope. Was Ismael a Muslim? Nope. So what Kind of God came after the early Middle Eastern Countries within the Arab Nations? You got it folks! Islam) with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
Now continue to Verse 39 of Chapter 9
Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
Does this sound Familiar, is Israel Not Divided? Who is this strange god that he acknowledges and increase with glory? Why is Allah Consider the MOST merciful, if he is supposed to be the One true God. Why would he have an adjective describing him being 1st of Many, if he's the Only One? Why Not Allah the Merciful, or Allah the Great, but no, Allah the GREATEST. What has Islam gained since it's time, most of the Middle East, Rapid conversions in the Eastern Parts of Asia, the Pacific Islands, Europe, Many withing the Black Community. See where I'm headed.
This Man that gives glory to his God, the MAHDI, or the Muslim Messiah. Also in the Bible called the Man of Perdition, THE ANTI-CHRIST. Because this man, who will lead Islam to Conquer Jerusalem, has denied YESHUA(JESUS), and blasphemed against God, saying his Torah and New Testament are Corrupt, and has waged war against God's Saints and Israel.
If post hasn't gotten to you, I'll be glad to further elaborate.
Chapter 9:38
He speaks about a Middle Eastern god, ASIDE FROM ELOHIM AND YAHWEH, remember this was BEFORE ISLAM, and this was BEFORE Mohammad or Allah ever existed. Chapter 9:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom HIS FATHERS KNEW NOT SHALL HE SHALL HE HONOUR
(Ok folks, what does this tell you about this Middle Eastern God? How could this Man whom Daniel speaks about Honor this god which his fathers did not know? Did the Early Arabs Know Mohammad or Allah? Nope. Was Ismael a Muslim? Nope. So what Kind of God came after the early Middle Eastern Countries within the Arab Nations? You got it folks! Islam) with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
Now continue to Verse 39 of Chapter 9
Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
Does this sound Familiar, is Israel Not Divided? Who is this strange god that he acknowledges and increase with glory? Why is Allah Consider the MOST merciful, if he is supposed to be the One true God. Why would he have an adjective describing him being 1st of Many, if he's the Only One? Why Not Allah the Merciful, or Allah the Great, but no, Allah the GREATEST. What has Islam gained since it's time, most of the Middle East, Rapid conversions in the Eastern Parts of Asia, the Pacific Islands, Europe, Many withing the Black Community. See where I'm headed.
This Man that gives glory to his God, the MAHDI, or the Muslim Messiah. Also in the Bible called the Man of Perdition, THE ANTI-CHRIST. Because this man, who will lead Islam to Conquer Jerusalem, has denied YESHUA(JESUS), and blasphemed against God, saying his Torah and New Testament are Corrupt, and has waged war against God's Saints and Israel.
If post hasn't gotten to you, I'll be glad to further elaborate.
O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary is only a messenger of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Mary and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His messengers, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one Allah; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector. Surat An-Nisa 171