Pacquiao vs Marquez III Nov 12th [official]

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i saw the whole the fight on hd whatever. pac landed more punches on all the rounds that were given to him. marquez should have threw more punches from round 10-12. if u wanna watch the fight over again, just tally up the punches landed. i thought thats how boxing has always been scored.
 

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i saw the whole the fight on hd whatever. pac landed more punches on all the rounds that were given to him. marquez should have threw more punches from round 10-12. if u wanna watch the fight over again, just tally up the punches landed. i thought thats how boxing has always been scored.
"EFFECTIVE Punching" is how boxing is scored...
 

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I dont think it would make much of a difference if floyd makes weight or not this is a matter of styles. The reason Marquez can do so good against pac is cuz he can play the role of the counter puncher he can wait for pac to attack and counter him. Against floyd hes forced to play the role of the aggressor and floyd the counter puncher and thats not Marquez' game.
Pacquiao was waiting to counter Marquez too.... The thing about it though is.... Pacquiao is not a counter puncher that's why he was getting beat by Marquez. He tried to beat Marquez at his own game and lost.
 
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http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,7844810.story
the link is for the whole article

Oscar De La Hoya, who helps promote unbeaten Floyd Mayweather Jr., said the time has come for Pacquiao to be more assertive in choosing his path, not leaving it entirely up to his promoter.

"My advice to Manny is, 'You're the fighter. You're the boss. You call the shots,' " De La Hoya said. "If Manny wants Floyd, there's nothing from stopping that fight from happening.

"Pacquiao fights for the people and the people want him to step up and fight Mayweather."

Arum said it's "absolutely" Pacquiao's right to decide his next step. Pacquiao said late Saturday that Marquez deserves a rematch.

"I'm happy about my performance, but I don't know what I need to do to change the minds of the judges," Marquez said after the fight. "I'll sit down with my family and make a decision about continuing in this sport or simply retire.

"I really believe I have to drop [Pacquiao], but even if I drop him, I get the feeling they'll stand him back up and give him the fight again. I am very frustrated right now."

Ignacio Beristain, Marquez's trainer, called the decision "a joke."

The debt to Marquez for one more Pacquiao fight is substantial.

But De La Hoya says the Mayweather fight is at hand.

De La Hoya told The Times before Saturday's fight that his company has been instructed by Mayweather to schedule MGM Grand in May for "the biggest fight possible, and there's no secret who that is.

"Mayweather wants the fight, and there's nothing that can keep this fight from happening."

Heard often after Saturday's bout, however, was the conclusion that if Marquez could make Pacquiao's life so difficult, imagine what Mayweather (42-0) would do.

"People can keep comparing Pacquiao and Mayweather, I don't care," Arum said. "If you want to say Manny's diminished by this, go ahead."
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Arum does not want to make the Mayweather vs Manny, but Mayweather is ducking right???
 

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Pacquiao is ducking.... Floyd is available, Arum and Pacquiao both want Marquez again? Marquez doesn't want to fight against Pacquiao anymore, tired of gettin' robbed. Marquez is never going to get a fair shake....

Note to Arum and Pacquiao:

All roads lead to Floyd Mayweather!! You're trapped now, you have to face him.
 
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mayweather is talking about fighting in feb though:

Floyd Mayweather Announces Hes Fighting Again In February! [Audio]
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh6R04P680Z4pt1vY8

so I dunno. If floyd is planning on staying active like he said in that video, and if Pac vs Jmm happens around the same time, then that's fine with me as long as they have some sort of agreement to fight eachother after (in 2012).
 
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Tony-Remember a year ago I said Manny is going to start dealing with the same problems as Mayweather - Fans turning on him, his resume being questioned, and all of his fights being looked at under a microscope. A year later and all is true now. I said after this fight we will see who's ducking who now look at all the excuse made not to fight Mayweather. But hey I don't know what I'm talking about says the Manny fans. LOL.. All roads lead to Mayweather in boxing..
 
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This is a hard fight to call. Manny looked like shit against Mosley, he had a hard time landing punches against the limited movement that Shane gave him. Marquez is going to give Manny movement and he's going to fire punches at him too. I think that Manny have done himself a disservice by fighting so more come forward opponents, that he is going to have a hard time adjusting to Marquez's counter punching style. Marquez has lost a step that comes with being 38 years old, so I'm worried about if he can keep up with Manny's super fast pace. This is going to be a close fight. I give Manny the edge because of the weight limit and his fast fighting pace.
LOL, here is what I said on the first page of this thread but hey I know nothing about boxing.
 
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You recalled it right because Manny was fighting his second 38yr old man in a row. I thought Manny would wear him down for a late TKO. I just laugh because Manny tea baggers act like I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'm always kill them with facts.
 
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Marquez was (and still is) a pound 4 pound fighter though and a champion. So that "38 year old" stuff doesn't apply with him. Does he look old? hell no. He's the Mexican Bernard Hopkins as far as I'm concerned. When Bhop was beating prime fighters in his late 30's and 40's, you don't hear people say "so and so struggled with an old hopkins" nah they say they lost or struggled against a legend. Marquez IS a legend, period. He's proved that time and time again. His only non controversial loss was against Floyd, that's it.
 

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Tony-Remember a year ago I said Manny is going to start dealing with the same problems as Mayweather - Fans turning on him, his resume being questioned, and all of his fights being looked at under a microscope. A year later and all is true now. I said after this fight we will see who's ducking who now look at all the excuse made not to fight Mayweather. But hey I don't know what I'm talking about says the Manny fans. LOL.. All roads lead to Mayweather in boxing..
Yep sure did, you called it bruh....
 
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all i know is marquez is a fuckin sav! i thought pac at that weight wouldve won by tko in late rounds, but marquez's countering was on point all night. i honestly thought the fight couldve gone three ways - draw, pacquiao wins, or marquez for the dub. for anybody to say marquez got robbed though is delusional like raider fans. he was certainly not the aggressor, didnt land as many total punches, and he definately didnt hurt manny so for anybody to say a close fight like that was robbery is trippin. hopefully mayweather watched this fight and gave that fool some balls to finally step it up and we could see the fight we all been waitin for.
 

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all i know is marquez is a fuckin sav! i thought pac at that weight wouldve won by tko in late rounds, but marquez's countering was on point all night. i honestly thought the fight couldve gone three ways - draw, pacquiao wins, or marquez for the dub. for anybody to say marquez got robbed though is delusional like raider fans. he was certainly not the aggressor, didnt land as many total punches, and he definately didnt hurt manny so for anybody to say a close fight like that was robbery is trippin. hopefully mayweather watched this fight and gave that fool some balls to finally step it up and we could see the fight we all been waitin for.
Mayweather has been wanting to fight the "little" fella years ago (before he ran to fight Clottey).... don't sit up here act stupid. Floyd set a date/venue aside before Pacquiao got his ass whooped by Marquez. Floyd called him a punk before he (Pacman) fought washed up as Shane and Margarito!

Pacquiao is the one that needs to grow some balls and call Floyd Mayweather out himself. You seen what Oscar said, "it's time for Manny to get more assertive".
 
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^^^ bruh we all know how you and a couple others been latched onto his nuts for years and holler the same shit over and over. all i can say is with all the stunts mayweather pulls, and how he admits and gets caught on camera contradicting himself for some grown men to believe that shit like some gullable little kids is comedy.
 

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You called Marquez a "sav", no shit, we all know Marquez is a sav. Anybody who gets up from 3 knockdowns, and then comes back in the same fight and outboxes your opponent the rest of the way is damn sure a savage.

Why does Pacquiao stutter everyone he hears Mayweather? Everytime he at a complete loss for words, he never says "Yeah" I'll fight Mayweather next. It's always some "I fight for the people" BS.
 
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pacquiao stutters period he's a fob bruh lol. if your sayin he never says yea i'll fight mayweather than you have selective hearin mayn. there's one thing to be a fan of somebody, but some of yall are sheep real shit.
 

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That's you homie....

Pacquiao wants Marquez (again) rather than face Floyd.... there is nobody else for them to fight except Floyd it's time to stop cheating the people.

Floyd took on somebody that was champion, at the top of his game, younger, bigger, and stronger. Floyd knocked him out.

Pacquiao took on somebody that wasn't champion, was/is older, out of his normal weight class, and Pacquiao still got outboxed.