OBAMA Will be our next PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
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DUHHHHHHHH.. cood yew tel mi dem poltics den? You know because you're obviously a policy maker and everything you say isn't just going to be conjecture or anything................
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A real question is if not with a standard how should children be evaluated? Maybe with a psychologist asking them how math makes them FEEEEL?
@ Mr. Ric I'm willing to bet the same kids that did well on the Billy and Christina question do well on the Pedro and Shaniqua one as well
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A real question is if not with a standard how should children be evaluated? Maybe with a psychologist asking them how math makes them FEEEEL?
@ Mr. Ric I'm willing to bet the same kids that did well on the Billy and Christina question do well on the Pedro and Shaniqua one as well
There are some resources, but why don't you compare the predominantly white/rich area of a city with a predominately colored/impoverished area of a city in terms of schools, funding, resources available, job opportunities available, etc., This is where the discrepancy is, when two schools are both publicly funded by the government yet are on opposite ends of the scale in regards to resources available.
There is no history of US intervention in China where displacement of jobs, resources and people take place. The difference between Chinese immigrants and immigrants of places where the US didn't intervene (Colonize) and those of Latin America is that the ones from Latin America face the economic, political and self-esteem issues created from being colonized. If the US had a similar history with China that it did with Mexico, then you could compare the way immigrants do on standardized testing in school and it may be valid. But you can't view all immigrants the same way.
There are those immigrants that come here as a direct result of US economic and political intervention in their native countries, and there are those who come here due to other reasons. (Chinese, Middle East, etc.,) You cannot view immigrants from China the same as immigrants from Mexico or any other Latin American country, the history is not the same and the context is not the same.
There are those immigrants that come here as a direct result of US economic and political intervention in their native countries, and there are those who come here due to other reasons. (Chinese, Middle East, etc.,) You cannot view immigrants from China the same as immigrants from Mexico or any other Latin American country, the history is not the same and the context is not the same.
no doubt resources belong in lower income communities.
i dont disagree with that. its unfortunate but you can still overcome. my college success class sheds light on people beliefs that therefore effect direction and goals. ultimately its an individuals decision. the road is longer for us minorities in the low income bracket but theres no excuse to why an individual can't overcome these obstacles. i agree with you on this point. school districts in oakland dont recieve the same funding as say a school in concord or even another area of oakland. its not right thats for sure. but like i said before in another thread, theres 50 ways to travel to the bay area, and in the end whether you take 580/680/880/24 you will still end up in the same place. its harder but not unachievable is my whole point. hopefully these are the things obama can bring light to as well as many other failures in our systems.
i dont disagree with that. its unfortunate but you can still overcome. my college success class sheds light on people beliefs that therefore effect direction and goals. ultimately its an individuals decision. the road is longer for us minorities in the low income bracket but theres no excuse to why an individual can't overcome these obstacles. i agree with you on this point. school districts in oakland dont recieve the same funding as say a school in concord or even another area of oakland. its not right thats for sure. but like i said before in another thread, theres 50 ways to travel to the bay area, and in the end whether you take 580/680/880/24 you will still end up in the same place. its harder but not unachievable is my whole point. hopefully these are the things obama can bring light to as well as many other failures in our systems.
Come on now. You really think the only alternative to standardized tests is some psycho-emotional survey?
I can think of at least a dozen formal and informal assessments I use with kids on a near-daily basis that are more meaningful than standardized tests.
Standardized tests do NOT test how smart a kid is or how much they have learned. They only test HOW WELL a kid can take a test.
by the way I'm glad this thread got turned into a discussion on testing and education instead of some bullshit conjecture about who's gonna be the next president.
I can think of at least a dozen formal and informal assessments I use with kids on a near-daily basis that are more meaningful than standardized tests.
Standardized tests do NOT test how smart a kid is or how much they have learned. They only test HOW WELL a kid can take a test.
by the way I'm glad this thread got turned into a discussion on testing and education instead of some bullshit conjecture about who's gonna be the next president.