Obama tryin to ban flavored dips!

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when people first try it out, they spit it out after a few minutes lmao....somebody reading this thread go buy a tin at the liquor store real quick, try a pinch & let us know how it went! your not down! hahaha

you will get a grip of props guaranteeeeeed
 
Nov 24, 2003
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The shit is fucked up if you ask me. Swallow your spit, you're fucked. Never done it before, you get an almost sickening buzz, lip starts stinging. Shit is NOT the business. My brother does it and I don't know why. I did it a few times while trying to quit smoking, but fuck that nasty shit.

If Obama wanted to ban this shit altogether, I wouldn't argue with it. I smoke, and if he wanted to ban cigarettes...I'd be right there with him. I'd be the first fucker in line to vote. All that shit is just killin' the fuck out of people.


Fuck yea!

-Lets ban fast food
-Alcohol
-Large sized portions at restaurants
-Night shift jobs
-Radios in cars
-Soda pop
-All Tobacco products
-Foods high in saturated fat
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Fuck yea!

-Lets ban fast food
-Alcohol
-Large sized portions at restaurants
-Night shift jobs
-Radios in cars
-Soda pop
-All Tobacco products
-Foods high in saturated fat
I wouldn't go that far. BUT, companies like restaurants should take more responsibility and give people what they can eat, rather than serving hamburgers that can feed an entire cul-de-sac. At least fast food restaurants have made attempts at healthier foods.

You go to Europe, you won't ever see super sized shit at a fast food joint. I went to Burger King in Ireland and ordered a large meal, and got what we consider a SMALL here.

But the tobacco thing, c'mon. American Spirit doesn't have all the additives that the major tobacco companies put in their cigarettes. They last longer, you smoke less, and you're not getting thousands of chemicals pumped into your body. If not ban it, there should be some kind of standard to at least HELP! Smoking is harder to kick than HEROIN!
 
Nov 24, 2003
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you dont understand economics

here we go with the same REPUBLICAN (you are a republican, face it, you get all your info from republican news outfits) line of "give tax cuts to save the economy"...uhh, we tried that already and look where it got us. Obama is all about infrastructure, not giving tax cuts to poor cheap rural republicans.
And did you get what i said earlier? Unemployment numbers are a LAGGING INDICATOR. The current rate likely reflects the economy 4 or so months ago.

The tax cuts had relatively little (almost nothing) to do with the economic contraction that we are in right now.

Our current economic expansion was largely caused by the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 followed by relaxation of regulatory rules by the Bush administration in addition to efforts to try to stimulate home buying, even at high risks.

This increased home purchasing was a catalyst in the sustained stimulation of our economy but it game at the expense of unsustainable debt loads




and inflated home prices.




Anyone that knows economics knows that economies operate on a cycle of expansion and contraction. It is impossible to prevent expansion or contraction because the inherent network properties of an economic system.

Therefore, every economic expansion or "boom" period must be succeeded by an economic retraction or "bust" period.

Obama is now trying to limit the swinging of the economic pendulum on it's natural course back to the contraction side, which will create more negative implications than allowing the economy to run its natural course.

Not the least of these concerns is the eventual devaluation of the dollar.

The larger problem which Obama (and Bush) have failed to address is that instead of replacing our current system they are attempting at all costs to perpetuate the existence of our unsustainable model. Our current economic model is based on continued expansion, and infinite expansion in a finite system is impossible.


Also as far as our current economic system is concerned, it is a fact that the Government spends money less efficiently than the private market

Source;

http://www.econ.berkeley.edu/~cromer/RomerDraft307.pdf

And rather than reading all of it "This study found that the tax multiplier is 3, meaning that each dollar rise in taxes will reduce private spending by $3."
 
Apr 25, 2002
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#92
The tax cuts had relatively little (almost nothing) to do with the economic contraction that we are in right now.

Our current economic expansion was largely caused by the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 followed by relaxation of regulatory rules by the Bush administration in addition to efforts to try to stimulate home buying, even at high risks.

This increased home purchasing was a catalyst in the sustained stimulation of our economy but it game at the expense of unsustainable debt loads




and inflated home prices.




Anyone that knows economics knows that economies operate on a cycle of expansion and contraction. It is impossible to prevent expansion or contraction because the inherent network properties of an economic system.

Therefore, every economic expansion or "boom" period must be succeeded by an economic retraction or "bust" period.

Obama is now trying to limit the swinging of the economic pendulum on it's natural course back to the contraction side, which will create more negative implications than allowing the economy to run its natural course.

Not the least of these concerns is the eventual devaluation of the dollar.

The larger problem which Obama (and Bush) have failed to address is that instead of replacing our current system they are attempting at all costs to perpetuate the existence of our unsustainable model. Our current economic model is based on continued expansion, and infinite expansion in a finite system is impossible.


Also as far as our current economic system is concerned, it is a fact that the Government spends money less efficiently than the private market

Source;

http://www.econ.berkeley.edu/~cromer/RomerDraft307.pdf

And rather than reading all of it "This study found that the tax multiplier is 3, meaning that each dollar rise in taxes will reduce private spending by $3."
That's exactly what I said, too. Just not with the graphs, and not quite as much information. lol.

Good shit on this though.
 
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He was born with a gift.

My 3 economic courses and out-of-school studies are not good enough to understand economics. Apparently, people that understand the subject did not learn it in school.
I took it classes in school, worked for a hedge fund, read the WSJ, watch bloomberg, and invest my money
 
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The tax cuts had relatively little (almost nothing) to do with the economic contraction that we are in right now.

Our current economic expansion was largely caused by the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 followed by relaxation of regulatory rules by the Bush administration in addition to efforts to try to stimulate home buying, even at high risks.

This increased home purchasing was a catalyst in the sustained stimulation of our economy but it game at the expense of unsustainable debt loads




and inflated home prices.




Anyone that knows economics knows that economies operate on a cycle of expansion and contraction. It is impossible to prevent expansion or contraction because the inherent network properties of an economic system.

Therefore, every economic expansion or "boom" period must be succeeded by an economic retraction or "bust" period.

Obama is now trying to limit the swinging of the economic pendulum on it's natural course back to the contraction side, which will create more negative implications than allowing the economy to run its natural course.

Not the least of these concerns is the eventual devaluation of the dollar.

The larger problem which Obama (and Bush) have failed to address is that instead of replacing our current system they are attempting at all costs to perpetuate the existence of our unsustainable model. Our current economic model is based on continued expansion, and infinite expansion in a finite system is impossible.


Also as far as our current economic system is concerned, it is a fact that the Government spends money less efficiently than the private market

Source;

http://www.econ.berkeley.edu/~cromer/RomerDraft307.pdf

And rather than reading all of it "This study found that the tax multiplier is 3, meaning that each dollar rise in taxes will reduce private spending by $3."
oh god, here we go again with mr. nice guy's strategy of throwing a bunch of meaningless, outdated graphs, with a bunch a rhetoric in hopes that people think knows what he is talking about.

Let me give the cliff notes to your post.

The economy expanded since 1977 because banks gave money to poor people, and bush gave incentives for people to borrow. This created debt.
then you put a graph of credit market debt going up...brilliant
then you put a graph of "price to household income"...with prices in a downturn.
Then you say the economy operates in cycles...well, duh
Then you say obama is trying to limit these cycles, which will be negative in the long run (your opinion)
Then you say the economy wont expand forever, something bush and obama have ignored
Then you regurgitate some libertarian nonsense

wow, what a scholarly, pile of nothingness post!
 
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Exactly. And there's a lot of money to be made from weed. The government would get so much in tax dollars it's ridiculous.

But fuck, Marijuana is a gateway drug, don't you know? *sarcasm*
there would be no point in taxing weed since every one can grow it,and that maby one big reason it is still illegal.