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Here is what Obama has done...in a nutshell.

Gained an interest in major corporations.

Added to the national debt by giving more money to companies that could have gone into bankruptcy and corporate restructuring (without throwing in the towel and shutting down).

He's standing by, watching tens of thousands of farm workers in California struggle and stand in food lines to feed their families (all because of the fucking smelt).

Implemented a stimulus package that didn't do shit.

Hired Czars that were not screened or approved by the Senate.

The only thing Obama is good at is deceiving the American public with good speeches. Other than that, Obama hasn't done shit and will continue to not do shit. Yes, I know, Obama supporters will say he's only been in office for 8 months. That's all fine and dandy, but in those 8 months he has failed everything he has tried.

And if you want to debate it...name one thing that Obama has done that has been beneficial to the American people!
haha,,,the right wing obsession with Obamas czars continues....do you know how many czars reagan and bush had? STFU.

Oh, and Bernanke just said the recession is over...THANK YOU STIMULUS PACKAGE
 
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everything sydal said is true.obama is a fucken idiot. hes fake plain and simple.

he increased the size of goverment
passed the largest stimulus pack in history and only gave elected officals 48 hours to read it
closed guantamo down...

dude is a joke
how much money do you make per year?
 
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Why hasn't Obama shut ACORN down after the 30+ convictions related to voter fraud and the recent release of videos showing that organization's corruption (Taxpayers fund ACORN, btw)? Why is every Obama move affecting taxpayers? Why is it ok for Obama to appoint Czars without running them through the government approval process? Why did he implement a stimulus package that was a guaranteed failure? Why is he gaining government interest in private corporations? Why is he taking major banks out of the student loan business and shifting that responsibility to government entities?
why are republicowards so obsessed with ACORN? I dont get it. They are a worthless organization that does nothing to influence anything,

How many czars did reagan and bush have, Sydal?

A stimulus package that was a "guaranteed failure"? Wtf, are you just pulling shit out of your ass now? The vast majority of ECONOMISTS supported the stimulus package

"gaining government interest in corporations"??? You mean preventing GM, a huge provider of american jobs from going bankrupt?

wow, you repubs sure are critical all of a sudden. Where were you from 2000 - 2008?
 
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haha,,,the right wing obsession with Obamas czars continues....do you know how many czars reagan and bush had? STFU.

Oh, and Bernanke just said the recession is over...THANK YOU STIMULUS PACKAGE
Thank god I'm not on the right.

Out of everything I've said, all you can do is focus on the Czars? That's just a part of it. I never said Bush and Reagan were right with their appointment of Czars, either...did I?

And thank god for that stimulus package. It's too bad recessions come and go without stimulus packages that save big business. The economy runs at the consumers expense, which means all that money that was pumped into businesses did nothing. Yes, it saved jobs...but those same corporations could have filed for Bankruptcy, gone through corporate restructuring, and still saved a lot of jobs. In order to keep the economy going, you have to give money to the people that use it for goods and services...not production.

It's also too bad that the unemployment rate is still rising. Why are they trying to pass another unemployment extension? Because unemployed people are still spending money...which means the economy is being stimulated...without that ridiculous amount of money that Obama spent on bullshit. That's a fact, btw...
 
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why are republicowards so obsessed with ACORN? I dont get it. They are a worthless organization that does nothing to influence anything,

How many czars did reagan and bush have, Sydal?

A stimulus package that was a "guaranteed failure"? Wtf, are you just pulling shit out of your ass now? The vast majority of ECONOMISTS supported the stimulus package

"gaining government interest in corporations"??? You mean preventing GM, a huge provider of american jobs from going bankrupt?

wow, you repubs sure are critical all of a sudden. Where were you from 2000 - 2008?
First and foremost...I'm not a REPUBLICAN...thank you.

Now, ACORN influenced a lot of votes at election time...illegally. If you don't believe THAT, read up on the convictions throughout that organization. Watch the video where the kids told ACORN employees that they were into child prostitution, and those employees were giving them "advice" on how to get away with it. ACORN is HUGE, regardless of what you'd like to think.

Stimulus package...I don't care what many Economists thought. There were plenty of people against that shit, and they were ignored. PERIOD! They didn't even tell us wtf they were stimulating. Do you know what the money went to?

GM. Preventing somebody from going bankrupt, for one, is not up to the government. Because, major corporations can go bankrupt and still stay in business...and retain many of their employees. Like I said, it's called CORPORATE RESTRUCTURING. Now, if it NEEDS to be done, it is not up to the President of the United States to tell Executives to step down.

And to finish it off...again...not a republican. I was just as critical of Bush. I disliked almost everything Bush did and did not do. So leave that out of the discussion unless you know what you're talking about.
 
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First and foremost...I'm not a REPUBLICAN...thank you.

Now, ACORN influenced a lot of votes at election time...illegally. If you don't believe THAT, read up on the convictions throughout that organization. Watch the video where the kids told ACORN employees that they were into child prostitution, and those employees were giving them "advice" on how to get away with it. ACORN is HUGE, regardless of what you'd like to think.

Stimulus package...I don't care what many Economists thought. There were plenty of people against that shit, and they were ignored. PERIOD! They didn't even tell us wtf they were stimulating. Do you know what the money went to?

GM. Preventing somebody from going bankrupt, for one, is not up to the government. Because, major corporations can go bankrupt and still stay in business...and retain many of their employees. Like I said, it's called CORPORATE RESTRUCTURING. Now, if it NEEDS to be done, it is not up to the President of the United States to tell Executives to step down.

And to finish it off...again...not a republican. I was just as critical of Bush. I disliked almost everything Bush did and did not do. So leave that out of the discussion unless you know what you're talking about.
Do you think acorn is the only reason got elected?

"There were plenty of people against that shit, and they were ignored. PERIOD"....awww, poor conservatives yelling in the street didnt get their way...by the way, there were more people FOR IT.

And yes, the places the money went is public information, look it up
 
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Do you think acorn is the only reason got elected?

"There were plenty of people against that shit, and they were ignored. PERIOD"....awww, poor conservatives yelling in the street didnt get their way...by the way, there were more people FOR IT.

And yes, the places the money went is public information, look it up
No, I don't think ACORN is the only reason he got elected. I never said they were. But one must question their connections and their practices.

And I have looked up the stimulus package. Have you? You obviously don't know you're shit, because you want to thank the stimulus package for the end of the recession...when Obama and everybody else that supported it said it was a complete fucking failure.

Again, recessions come and go as CONSUMERS spend money. So the way to STIMULATE an economy is to give money to the people that SPEND it...not the producers. Giving money to a shit load of organizations, corporations and government entities did NOTHING for the economy. The evidence is in the still-declining employment rate.
 
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And I have looked up the stimulus package. Have you? You obviously don't know you're shit, because you want to thank the stimulus package for the end of the recession...when Obama and everybody else that supported it said it was a complete fucking failure.

Again, recessions come and go as CONSUMERS spend money. So the way to STIMULATE an economy is to give money to the people that SPEND it...not the producers. Giving money to a shit load of organizations, corporations and government entities did NOTHING for the economy. The evidence is in the still-declining employment rate.
you dont understand economics

here we go with the same REPUBLICAN (you are a republican, face it, you get all your info from republican news outfits) line of "give tax cuts to save the economy"...uhh, we tried that already and look where it got us. Obama is all about infrastructure, not giving tax cuts to poor cheap rural republicans.
And did you get what i said earlier? Unemployment numbers are a LAGGING INDICATOR. The current rate likely reflects the economy 4 or so months ago.
 
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Yep...you're right...I have no clue how the economy works. My last professor was a fuckin' economist and IS a financial genius. He seemed to think I understood it...as I passed his class with flying colors.

But hey, what do I know?
lol @ you thinking you know economics when you passed a class.
Aggregate expenditure models dont mean you understand how the economy works
 
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here we go with the same REPUBLICAN (you are a republican, face it, you get all your info from republican news outfits) line of "give tax cuts to save the economy"...uhh, we tried that already and look where it got us. Obama is all about infrastructure, not giving tax cuts to poor cheap rural republicans.
And did you get what i said earlier? Unemployment numbers are a LAGGING INDICATOR. The current rate likely reflects the economy 4 or so months ago.
Yea, you're right. I get all my info from republican news outfits. I forgot, you have cameras in my house and watch everything I do. I must be a republican because I don't agree with the ALMIGHTY BARACK OBAMA! How do you explain my views on Bush? Shit, I must have my own thought process.

Why is it that the government is going to pump more money out to the unemployed folks in this nation? Is it because they know the other shit did not work, and in order for the economy to be boosted, people need to spend money? Yes, that's exactly what it is.

I know Unemployment is a "LAGGING INDICATOR"...but people are still losing their jobs. So, it's not hard to see that unemployment, as of THIS MONTH, is still a problem.
 
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lol @ you thinking you know economics when you passed a class.
Aggregate expenditure models dont mean you understand how the economy works
When an ECONOMIST (THAT WAS HIS PROFESSION), tells me that I have a good grasp of how the economy works, I tend to listen to him over some dude on a message board.

You can say what you want. Fact of the matter is, the economics class I took went far beyond Aggregate Expenditure Models. We followed...

Supply, Demand, Fiscal and monetary policy.

Consumers, Producers, and Market Efficiency.

Tax System Design.

Income Inequality and Poverty.

Income and Cost of living measurements.

Production, growth, investments, finance principles and Unemployment.

Theory of the open economy.

Inflation.

Consumer choice.

The Competitive market.

Externalities, public goods and common resources.

And one thing I had to do (and NAIL), was a 20 minute presentation on corporations, unemployment, taxes, and the affect of UE & Taxes on consumer and corporate spending.

And you can't bullshit your way through my school. Every one of my classes has been taught by a professional in each area. From Economics, to Business Ethics, and Finance.