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No, he didnt....more evidence you get your info from braindead right wing sources

Stimulus package turned the economy around in a matter of months.
DJIA went from the 6000's in March to the high 9000's now. More indicators will follow.
THANK YOU OBAMA
LMAO! Ok dude. Whatever you say. My bad...his excuse was, "We MISREAD the economy". Came out of his own mouth. When it didn't do what it was supposed to do they said, "It created and saved more jobs". Ok, tell that to the millions of Americans out of work right now. Stand on a podium in the middle of California and tell us all that the stimulus bill helped the economy. This isn't even a "right wing" thing, this is a "Political thing"...period. Republicans and Dems alike know what the fuck is up. But to save your argument, you want to use the "Right wing" argument against me, when I'm not even a "Right wing" individual.

Keep living in your world...the rest of us will deal with reality.
 
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LMAO! Ok dude. Whatever you say.

Keep living in your world...the rest of us will deal with reality.
ok youre right. The stock market DIDNT go up to the high 9000's, and the economy ISNT turning around. Its actually as bad as it was last winter. Sorry
 
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ok youre right. The stock market DIDNT go up to the high 9000's, and the economy ISNT turning around. Its actually as bad as it was last winter. Sorry
Not once did I say the stock market didn't go up. My stocks have doubled. What I DID say is, the stimulus package has nothing to do with the economic turn around. The Economy has a NATURAL CYCLE! It goes UP, and then it goes DOWN...happens all the time.

Just so happens that this time, housing loans and the crash of that market contributed to a much worse recession.
 

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i dont agree with it.

its not that i dip tobacco, i just dont believe in taking away a persons individual right to do what they see fit. and if you think the south or midwest wont MAKE chewing tobacco after its banned...dead wrong...if its banned itll pop up in the black market. someone is ALWAYS ready to capitalize on something like that.

war against drugs (tobaccos a drug) dont work.
obama shoukld know that based on being from southside chicago
 
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Not once did I say the stock market didn't go up. My stocks have doubled. What I DID say is, the stimulus package has nothing to do with the economic turn around. The Economy has a NATURAL CYCLE! It goes UP, and then it goes DOWN...happens all the time.
ok, so then tax cuts arent really necessary to help out the economy? Since its only a natural cycle and all.

If youre gonna say the stimulus package had ZERO to do with the turnaround, please provide some proof, otherwise its just your uninformed opinion
 
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ok, so then tax cuts arent really necessary to help out the economy? Since its only a natural cycle and all.

If youre gonna say the stimulus package had ZERO to do with the turnaround, please provide some proof. Otherwise its just your uninformed opinion
People that spend money keep the economy going. If people are not spending money, company's are not producing. If company's are not producing, people lose their jobs.

At the end of the day, the economy has a cycle...just like Nice Guy said. Expansion...CONTRACTION...Expansion...CONTRACTION!

"What Does Economic Cycle Mean?
The natural fluctuation of the economy between periods of expansion (growth) and contraction (recession). Factors such as gross domestic product (GDP), interest rates, levels of employment and consumer spending can help to determine the current stage of the economic cycle."


http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/Economic-Cycle.asp

If you don't believe that, you need to go back to school. That is the most BASIC layout of how the economy stays on a good foot.
 
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People that spend money keep the economy going. If people are not spending money, company's are not producing. If company's are not producing, people lose their jobs.

If you don't believe that, you need to go back to school. That is the most BASIC layout of how the economy stays on a good foot.
But but, i thought housing and debt are why the economy crashed?

So let me guess, your solution is.......wait for it..........tax cuts.
STOP RECITING GROVER NORQUIST/CATO INSTITUTE/MARK LEVIN/GLENN BECK/RUSH LIMBAUGH/SEAN HANNITY LINES!!!
 
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But but, i thought housing and debt are why the economy crashed?

So let me guess, your solution is.......wait for it..........tax cuts.
STOP RECITING GROVER NORQUIST/CATO INSTITUTE/MARK LEVIN/GLENN BECK/RUSH LIMBAUGH/SEAN HANNITY LINES!!!
AGAIN! I'm not reciting ANYTHING! But keep that as your argument.

And AGAIN...here's your PROOF! If you're such an investor, you should KNOW this simple piece of information.

"What Does Economic Cycle Mean?
The natural fluctuation of the economy between periods of expansion (growth) and contraction (recession). Factors such as gross domestic product (GDP), interest rates, levels of employment and consumer spending can help to determine the current stage of the economic cycle."


http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/Economic-Cycle.asp
 
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AGAIN! I'm not reciting ANYTHING! But keep that as your argument.

And AGAIN...here's your PROOF! If you're such an investor, you should KNOW this simple piece of information.

"What Does Economic Cycle Mean?
The natural fluctuation of the economy between periods of expansion (growth) and contraction (recession). Factors such as gross domestic product (GDP), interest rates, levels of employment and consumer spending can help to determine the current stage of the economic cycle."


http://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/Economic-Cycle.asp
yes, i know about the economic cycle, you just missed the point
 
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That has been my point all along. There is an economic cycle. Without a stimulus package....the economy will suffer, then it will recover...REGARDLESS!
thats a fair point........but i think the stimulus package sped up the recession cycle
 
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syadal = moron who watches too much Hannity and Glenn Beck

thats pretty much all I gotta say
LMAO! I watch neither. When I watch TV, it's educational shit like NatGEO or the History channel. Sometimes ID, sometimes A&E...but my TV has never showed Hannity or Beck...that's a fact...or Fox News channel for that matter.

Good guess though.

Anybody who assumes a person is on the left or right because of his/her views on a president is a moron. That's like saying a person that does not like crips, MUST be a blood.
 

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Why wouldn't you like Crips unless you were a Blood (or a different rival gang member)?

Just curious.

I watch Hannity and O'Reilly sometimes and I hate almost all politicians on both sides. They are just funny shows to laugh at from time to time.
 
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yeah... because slamming the viewpoint of one specific political party has NO indication of your affiliation.
I've stated PLENTY of times that I disliked Bush's politics as well...but people seem to ignore that when I speak on Obama.

Fact is...I've slammed BOTH sides. We just happen to have a full house of Dems right now. You don't even know who I voted for. It wasn't McCain.

My affiliation is actually Independent. But thanks for knowing me better than I do.