**Oakland Raiders 2010 offseason Thread**
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I hate Tebow more than I hate Jamarcus Russell.....and really its only because everyone says that stupid "you're a better man if you talk to him for 5 minutes" fuccin shit....
I hope we do draft him tho....maybe dudes right and Jamarcus can absolutely corrupt that polished pristine fuccin reputation of his....that fuccin cocc succer....
anyway....the McNabb trade i think is a wash....its not gonna happen unless Al does something extremely dumb.....I'm hoping Al goes for a Tony Pike or Dan Lefevour in the later rounds though....an accurate QB that can be brought along slowly....I've already basically given up hope for this season
I hope we do draft him tho....maybe dudes right and Jamarcus can absolutely corrupt that polished pristine fuccin reputation of his....that fuccin cocc succer....
anyway....the McNabb trade i think is a wash....its not gonna happen unless Al does something extremely dumb.....I'm hoping Al goes for a Tony Pike or Dan Lefevour in the later rounds though....an accurate QB that can be brought along slowly....I've already basically given up hope for this season
Update: Disputing the report below from the National Football Post, Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported on Sunday night that after checking with two sources, there haven't been any discussions regarding Rosenfels and the Raiders. We'll keep you posted.
As we consider the future of Brett Favre on the Minnesota Vikings, we can't forget about the man who was brought in to compete for the starting job before No. 4 joined the team last summer: Sage Rosenfels. But according to Michael Lombardi of National Football Post, the Vikings are currently in trade talks with the Oakland Raiders regarding Rosenfels.
Lombardi adds a qualifier: this will likely only happen if the Vikes know that Favre is definitely coming back. We continue to believe that the Vikes should do their due diligence on this year's draft crop of QBs as well, since they need to prepare for the post-Favre world anyways. And hey, maybe Jimmy Clausen will fall to them at No. 30.
As we consider the future of Brett Favre on the Minnesota Vikings, we can't forget about the man who was brought in to compete for the starting job before No. 4 joined the team last summer: Sage Rosenfels. But according to Michael Lombardi of National Football Post, the Vikings are currently in trade talks with the Oakland Raiders regarding Rosenfels.
Lombardi adds a qualifier: this will likely only happen if the Vikes know that Favre is definitely coming back. We continue to believe that the Vikes should do their due diligence on this year's draft crop of QBs as well, since they need to prepare for the post-Favre world anyways. And hey, maybe Jimmy Clausen will fall to them at No. 30.
Update: Disputing the report below from the National Football Post, Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported on Sunday night that after checking with two sources, there haven't been any discussions regarding Rosenfels and the Raiders. We'll keep you posted.
As we consider the future of Brett Favre on the Minnesota Vikings, we can't forget about the man who was brought in to compete for the starting job before No. 4 joined the team last summer: Sage Rosenfels. But according to Michael Lombardi of National Football Post, the Vikings are currently in trade talks with the Oakland Raiders regarding Rosenfels.
Lombardi adds a qualifier: this will likely only happen if the Vikes know that Favre is definitely coming back. We continue to believe that the Vikes should do their due diligence on this year's draft crop of QBs as well, since they need to prepare for the post-Favre world anyways. And hey, maybe Jimmy Clausen will fall to them at No. 30.
As we consider the future of Brett Favre on the Minnesota Vikings, we can't forget about the man who was brought in to compete for the starting job before No. 4 joined the team last summer: Sage Rosenfels. But according to Michael Lombardi of National Football Post, the Vikings are currently in trade talks with the Oakland Raiders regarding Rosenfels.
Lombardi adds a qualifier: this will likely only happen if the Vikes know that Favre is definitely coming back. We continue to believe that the Vikes should do their due diligence on this year's draft crop of QBs as well, since they need to prepare for the post-Favre world anyways. And hey, maybe Jimmy Clausen will fall to them at No. 30.
The Donovan McNabb trade (and non-trade) speculation shows no signs of slowing.
As the Eagles presumably continue to explore (errr, entertain) offers, and the Raiders and Bills continue to be considered the front-runners, Jeff McLane of The Philadelphia Inquirer reported Friday that if McNabb is traded, he prefers the Vikings. That was soon followed by one of the most concrete reports we’ve seen thus far, as McNabb’s agent, Fletcher Smith, told Les Bowen of the Philadelphia Daily News that he has no reason to believe a trade is imminent, and there have been no conversations with the Eagles about which teams McNabb prefers.
That being said, we know McNabb said Wednesday that he prefers to stay with the Eagles. But he might not have that choice.
As the rumor mill churns, let’s take a look at some reports (in no particular order for you conspiracy theorists) of the possible destinations for McNabb:
Minnesota: The Vikings have been connected to McNabb, dating to last offseason, given his history with coach Brad Childress. But the Vikings are waiting for an answer from a certain No. 4, who tends not to make quick decisions. Judd Zulgad of the Star Tribune reported Friday that the Vikings aren’t in the McNabb mix, via a source at the NFL Annual Meeting earlier this week. Zulgad also offered this from Childress, who was asked about potential interest in McNabb on Wednesday: “Not as of right now. I’m not going to tell you that we won’t add another quarterback to our roster or another two quarterbacks to our roster depending on which quarterback shows up and which doesn’t or which couple or three show up and which don’t. That’s all down-the-road stuff.”
Oakland: NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora reported Wednesday that several executives on other clubs pointed to the Raiders as the team in heaviest pursuit of McNabb. The Oakland Tribune’s Steve Corkran reported Thursday that two Raiders employees were “unaware” of the team contacting the Eagles.
San Francisco: According to McLane’s report Friday, McNabb would be open to joining the 49ers.
Buffalo: It has been eerily quiet here. No denials. Columnist Bob DiCesare suggests in The Buffalo News that McNabb’s refusal to sign an extension makes it easier for the Bills to eliminate him as an option. NFL.com senior columnist Vic Carucci noted during his live chat Friday that the organization believes Trent Edwards and Ryan Fitzpatrick will fare better under new coach Chan Gailey['s direction. Carucci doesn't have "any hard evidence" that the Bills are pushing for a McNabb trade.
St. Louis: Steve Spagnuolo squashed reports that the Eagles had an offer on the table from the Rams, according to the St. Louis Globe-Democrat, and general manager Billy Devaney told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch the rumors were “utterly ridiculous.” Pretty definitive there.
Arizona: A similar story for the Cardinals, as GM Rod Graves told Darren Urban on the team’s official Web site that there was “no interest” in acquiring McNabb.
Rest of the field: Via a La Canfora report Thursday, the Seahawks, Browns, Broncos and Jaguars aren’t in the mix for McNabb.
It has been at least 15 minutes since the last news on McNabb, so we’re clearly due for something new soon.
As the Eagles presumably continue to explore (errr, entertain) offers, and the Raiders and Bills continue to be considered the front-runners, Jeff McLane of The Philadelphia Inquirer reported Friday that if McNabb is traded, he prefers the Vikings. That was soon followed by one of the most concrete reports we’ve seen thus far, as McNabb’s agent, Fletcher Smith, told Les Bowen of the Philadelphia Daily News that he has no reason to believe a trade is imminent, and there have been no conversations with the Eagles about which teams McNabb prefers.
That being said, we know McNabb said Wednesday that he prefers to stay with the Eagles. But he might not have that choice.
As the rumor mill churns, let’s take a look at some reports (in no particular order for you conspiracy theorists) of the possible destinations for McNabb:
Minnesota: The Vikings have been connected to McNabb, dating to last offseason, given his history with coach Brad Childress. But the Vikings are waiting for an answer from a certain No. 4, who tends not to make quick decisions. Judd Zulgad of the Star Tribune reported Friday that the Vikings aren’t in the McNabb mix, via a source at the NFL Annual Meeting earlier this week. Zulgad also offered this from Childress, who was asked about potential interest in McNabb on Wednesday: “Not as of right now. I’m not going to tell you that we won’t add another quarterback to our roster or another two quarterbacks to our roster depending on which quarterback shows up and which doesn’t or which couple or three show up and which don’t. That’s all down-the-road stuff.”
Oakland: NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora reported Wednesday that several executives on other clubs pointed to the Raiders as the team in heaviest pursuit of McNabb. The Oakland Tribune’s Steve Corkran reported Thursday that two Raiders employees were “unaware” of the team contacting the Eagles.
San Francisco: According to McLane’s report Friday, McNabb would be open to joining the 49ers.
Buffalo: It has been eerily quiet here. No denials. Columnist Bob DiCesare suggests in The Buffalo News that McNabb’s refusal to sign an extension makes it easier for the Bills to eliminate him as an option. NFL.com senior columnist Vic Carucci noted during his live chat Friday that the organization believes Trent Edwards and Ryan Fitzpatrick will fare better under new coach Chan Gailey['s direction. Carucci doesn't have "any hard evidence" that the Bills are pushing for a McNabb trade.
St. Louis: Steve Spagnuolo squashed reports that the Eagles had an offer on the table from the Rams, according to the St. Louis Globe-Democrat, and general manager Billy Devaney told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch the rumors were “utterly ridiculous.” Pretty definitive there.
Arizona: A similar story for the Cardinals, as GM Rod Graves told Darren Urban on the team’s official Web site that there was “no interest” in acquiring McNabb.
Rest of the field: Via a La Canfora report Thursday, the Seahawks, Browns, Broncos and Jaguars aren’t in the mix for McNabb.
It has been at least 15 minutes since the last news on McNabb, so we’re clearly due for something new soon.
ALAMEDA, Calif. -- The Oakland Raiders are bringing back unrestricted free-agent defensive tackle William Joseph and restricted free-agent linebacker Ricky Brown and fullback Luke Lawton.
The team announced all three deals Tuesday, but didn't disclose terms.
Joseph played 14 games over the past two seasons for the Raiders. He has been cut three times and been a free agent twice, but has been brought back to Oakland each time.
Brown played just five games at strongside linebacker last season before going down with a season-ending ankle injury. He could move to the middle linebacker spot next season if Oakland doesn't bring back restricted free agent Kirk Morrison.
Lawton will be suspended for the first two games next season for violating the league's policy against performance-enhancing substances. He missed the final two games last season.
Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press
The team announced all three deals Tuesday, but didn't disclose terms.
Joseph played 14 games over the past two seasons for the Raiders. He has been cut three times and been a free agent twice, but has been brought back to Oakland each time.
Brown played just five games at strongside linebacker last season before going down with a season-ending ankle injury. He could move to the middle linebacker spot next season if Oakland doesn't bring back restricted free agent Kirk Morrison.
Lawton will be suspended for the first two games next season for violating the league's policy against performance-enhancing substances. He missed the final two games last season.
Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press
Why McNabb is a bad idea
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, March 29th, 2010 at 8:12 am in Oakland Raiders.
On vacation last week, during which time it seemed by acclimation that it would be a good move for the Raiders to trade for Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb.
It was likened to a Rich Gannon move, picking up a respected leader in his 30s who would immediately upgrade the position and give the Raiders credibility where they need it most.
Check out McNabb’s career stat line and reputation as a winning player and it indeed seems like a no-brainer.
UPDATE: ESPN’s Adam Schefter is reporting the Raiders are the “team to beat” in regard to landing McNabb.
Without even getting into compensation, the McNabb as starter scenario isn’t ideal for the following reasons:
– Gannon came to the Raiders with young, fresh legs, the result of having spent a lot of time on the bench. McNabb somes in as a much older 33, having been sacked 357 times over the course of his career.
As a young buck, McNabb once rushed for 629 yards and had two other seasons over 460. He’s broken 100 yards over each of the last two years, but not by much.
Over the past five years, McNabb has played an entire 16 game season exactly once.
It’s conceivable the breakdown phase of his career is underway.
– For all the good McNabb did in 2009, remember his appearance in Oakland? Completed less than 50 percent of his passes (22 of 46), was sacked six times and hit many more times than that. Led the Eagles to nine points and lost to JaMarcus Russell.
At this stage of his career, McNabb simply doesn’t have the legs to escape a rush. Now imagine him playing behind a Raiders line which at the moment has as its starting tackles Mario Henderson on the left (faded down the stretch) and Khalif Barnes, backed up by Erik Pears, on the right.
Even if the Raiders draft a rookie tackle, there’s no guarantee he would start, and if he did, there would undoubtedly be some breakdowns during the break-in period.
And remember, the Eagles play a West Coast-style offense which emphasizes getting rid of the ball, while the Raiders want their receivers to run deeper routes.
– McNabb is due a $6.2 million roster bonus and $5 million in salary for the last year of his contract. If Russell is staying, that’s nearly $20 million tied up in two quarterbacks who can’t evade a rush as well as second-round tender Bruce Gradkowski.
With his age and contract status, McNabb is not the longterm answer to the Raiders problems. He’s a very expensive band-aid.
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, March 29th, 2010 at 8:12 am in Oakland Raiders.
On vacation last week, during which time it seemed by acclimation that it would be a good move for the Raiders to trade for Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb.
It was likened to a Rich Gannon move, picking up a respected leader in his 30s who would immediately upgrade the position and give the Raiders credibility where they need it most.
Check out McNabb’s career stat line and reputation as a winning player and it indeed seems like a no-brainer.
UPDATE: ESPN’s Adam Schefter is reporting the Raiders are the “team to beat” in regard to landing McNabb.
Without even getting into compensation, the McNabb as starter scenario isn’t ideal for the following reasons:
– Gannon came to the Raiders with young, fresh legs, the result of having spent a lot of time on the bench. McNabb somes in as a much older 33, having been sacked 357 times over the course of his career.
As a young buck, McNabb once rushed for 629 yards and had two other seasons over 460. He’s broken 100 yards over each of the last two years, but not by much.
Over the past five years, McNabb has played an entire 16 game season exactly once.
It’s conceivable the breakdown phase of his career is underway.
– For all the good McNabb did in 2009, remember his appearance in Oakland? Completed less than 50 percent of his passes (22 of 46), was sacked six times and hit many more times than that. Led the Eagles to nine points and lost to JaMarcus Russell.
At this stage of his career, McNabb simply doesn’t have the legs to escape a rush. Now imagine him playing behind a Raiders line which at the moment has as its starting tackles Mario Henderson on the left (faded down the stretch) and Khalif Barnes, backed up by Erik Pears, on the right.
Even if the Raiders draft a rookie tackle, there’s no guarantee he would start, and if he did, there would undoubtedly be some breakdowns during the break-in period.
And remember, the Eagles play a West Coast-style offense which emphasizes getting rid of the ball, while the Raiders want their receivers to run deeper routes.
– McNabb is due a $6.2 million roster bonus and $5 million in salary for the last year of his contract. If Russell is staying, that’s nearly $20 million tied up in two quarterbacks who can’t evade a rush as well as second-round tender Bruce Gradkowski.
With his age and contract status, McNabb is not the longterm answer to the Raiders problems. He’s a very expensive band-aid.
While the Oakland Raiders currently retain the title of "team to beat" in the Donovan McNabb sweepstakes, there could be another explosive trade percolating a little more under the radar.
According to what a league source has told David White of the San Francisco Chronicle, the Raiders have been offered a second-rounder in this year's draft, plus that team's 2011 first-rounder in exchange for the Raiders' first-rounder this year (No. 8 overall). This would put the Raiders back into next year's first round, as their pick already belongs to the New England Patriots from the Richard Seymour trade.
Sounds complex, but it makes sense if there's some team that really needs to jump over the Buffalo Bills at No. 9 and Jacksonville Jaguars at No. 10. Perhaps someone looking at a particular QB, for instance.
According to what a league source has told David White of the San Francisco Chronicle, the Raiders have been offered a second-rounder in this year's draft, plus that team's 2011 first-rounder in exchange for the Raiders' first-rounder this year (No. 8 overall). This would put the Raiders back into next year's first round, as their pick already belongs to the New England Patriots from the Richard Seymour trade.
Sounds complex, but it makes sense if there's some team that really needs to jump over the Buffalo Bills at No. 9 and Jacksonville Jaguars at No. 10. Perhaps someone looking at a particular QB, for instance.