**Oakland Raiders 2010 offseason Thread**

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I've actually been thinking Clausen if he falls but there's at least 1 team maybe two that are looking to move down and if someone wants Clausen bad enough they'll probably jump up to take him.....

personally i dont like Clausen....he's got the physical tools but he doesn't seem to get along with all his teammates and coaches from what Ive read about him....and with Cable breaking dudes jaws who step out of line that could turn into an ugly situation....Campbell is primed to flop and is exactly the type of player we take....but the more I think about it the more I can't see us passing on Rolando McClain if he's available.....it just wouldnt make any sense....

but neither did DHB so who fuccin knows
 
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“Sure, you could take a left tackle,” Kiper said. “You could take a Trent Williams. You could take a Bryan Bulaga but they went to the Iowa program a few years ago with Robert Gallery, would they do that again? I went with Clausen because I think they need him. I’ve been told the money situation with Russell won’t prevent them from taking a quarterback and I think Jimmy Clausen at this point would be a heck of a choice.”


I think gallery has been playing good the last season or two hasnt he or am i wrong?
 
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He has been playing well but tha point of tha matter was he was drafter to be a franchise LT and ended up being a middle of the road solid Guard....Guard's are much easier to come by than LT's....i think that was the point he was trying to make....

Only LT I would take @ 8 over McClain or Clausen is Russell Okung but he won't be there....this draft is OL rich....I think it can wait til the 2nd or 3rd RD
 
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Lol. Best hasn't played a fuckin down in the NFL, how r u so sure?

LOL @ drafting a rb. We hav so many other key positions to fill, and u wanna draft another rb?
well, i know that the Chargers are lookin at drafting him in the 2nd round.
if the Raiders could get a chance to draft him i know Al Davis might not pass up on him,he could end up havin the same impact that Chris Johnson has 4 the Titans.
 
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That I do agree wit, al davis's fuckin dumbass will prolly draft best. Not knockin on best at all cuz he's def a player BUT the raiders have so many other important needs, the last thing we need to draft is another high pick on a RB.

First off, best or NOT.... not even superman can run wit the o line we got. We need to upgrade the line, BADLY. Both o and d line. To me, those 2 are the most important position we need to upgrade.
 
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We already have so much money invested in "skilled" position players and they have NOT been close to their draft worthy slot.

I agree. O line in the 1st pick, and D line wit 2nd. Then we need a run stuffing LB. That's what I want us to do this year at the draft but we'll prolly draft more offensive players n also the fastest guys in the draft.

Thx Al Davis.
 
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Im more of the thinking that we need to go McClain if he's available first round cuz that dude could change the entire Defense....even with the sorry O line last year Grad had a few pretty good games before they nearly got him killed.....so the more I think about the Clausen thing the less I like it....I say an OT in the second RD....some of these 1st RD graded OL might fall to the early second cuz this is a pretty heavy RB, OL, DL draft....and there might be a run at the end of tha first, if Clausen goes 9 to Buffalo, that someone wants to get up and take Colt McCoy....but who the fucc knows....

O-line & Run Stoppers on D should be just about every picc in this draft tho
 
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Draft prospect: Jimmy Clausen
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, April 9th, 2010 at 7:07 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Third in a series analyzing potential draft picks for the Raiders, schedueld to select at No. 8 in the first round on April 22:


Position: Quarterback

Height, weight: 6-3. 222 pounds

College: Notre Dame

Why it’s Clausen: Because Al Davis wants go to the polar opposite of the laid-back JaMarcus Russell and bring in someone with some fire. Make no mistake _ if Clausen is drafted at No. 8 money, then Russell is being paid his final $3 million and is being sent on his way. Tom Cable said it was his call to remove Russell from the lineup last year, and he is the coach. But chances are it didn’t happen until Davis said, “You want to change quarterbacks? Be my guest.” As much as the organization won’t admit it, they miss the Rich Gannon effect _ and Clausen brings some Gannon-esque qualities to the table. He can run a pro style offense. He’s not afraid of ruffling some feathers. I had Clausen pegged as a pouter/complainer along the lines of Jay Cutler, but am coming around to the idea that he may be more like the Chargers’ Philip Rivers _ someone who his teammates love and opponents hate.

Why it’s not Clausen: Davis wants to give Russell once last chance, as suggested by AOL Fanhouse writer Thomas George today, and there’s no way he’s bringing in a big-money quarterback if he thinks Russell could still be the guy. Another factor _ the Raiders are so awful at drafting and developing their own quarterbacks (anyone remember Ken Stabler back in the late 1960s) they’d be better off going for help on the offensive or defensive lines. There’s some logic there _ the truly best Raiders teams have dominated at the point of attack and the recent vintages have been unable to protect the quarterback or run inside the 20s, while the defenses have been stampeded by teams stubborn with the run.

Quotable: “Some of the people that say those things (about my ability to be a leader) just don’t know me as a person. A lot of people don’t really know me as a person. Being at Notre Dame, the quarterback and the head coach get all the credit when things go right and get a lot of blame when things go wrong. It’s a tough situation being in a fishbowl at Notre Dame.”

Note: Clausen had his Pro Day workout today and estimated he is about 75 percent health and unable to execute some bootlegs and other throws. Not that the Pro Day is the be all and end all. It’s worth noting that Mel Kiper Jr. talked about how poor Peyton Manning’s Pro Day workout was following his senior year as he threw wobbly passes and short-hopped receivers. JaMarcus
 
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Draft prospect: Rolando McClain
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, April 11th, 2010 at 4:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Fifth in a series analyzing potential draft picks for the Raiders, who select No. 8 in the first round on April 22:


College: Alabama

Position: Inside linebacker

Height, weight: 6-4, 249

Why it’s McClain: In a recent L.A. Times mock draft, I took Maryland tackle Bruce Campbell because I believe there’s a 50-50 chance that’s who the Raiders will take if Russell Okung and Trent Williams are off the board _ as was the case in that draft. On an upcoming Comcast Bay Area draft show, selecting who I think the Raiders should draft, the pick was McClain. The Butkus Award winner, McClain was the best defender on the nation’s top defensive team and a big reason why Alabama gave up only 68.2 yards per game on the ground. Not only can McClain tackle, but he’s a first-to-the-ball defender in part because of instinct, and also because he has been described by some as having the top football IQ of any player in the entire draft. The Raiders need a talented film junkie planted right in the middle of their defense _ and pay no mind to the fact that he played in a 3-4 and not a 4-3. McClain is smart enough to learn the angles and responsibility quickly. If there’s a chance McClain is a Ray Lewis-Kevin Willis type defender, they’ll kick themselves for passing him up.

Correction: It’s Patrick Willis, of course, not Kevin Willis. For those of you keeping track, that’s at least the third time I’ve made that mistake since Willis joined the 49ers).

Why it’s not McClain: Detractors think McClain cleaned up at Alabama in part because he had mountainous 350-plus pound Terrance Cody in front of him at nose tackle. While not slow by any stretch, McClain doesn’t exactly have “Raider speed” either. When it comes to taking linebackers, the Raiders have a longstanding tradition of waiting until after the first round. Al Davis has picked linebackers in the first round only twice _ Napoleon Harris at No. 23 overall in 2002 (Phillip Buchanon was the No. 17 pick earlier in that round) and Rob Fredrickson was the No. 22 selection in the first round in 1994. The Raiders philosophy on paying linebackers is that they’d rather spend money on corners since linebackers are often off the field after one or two downs anyway. The No. 8 pick would be far more than the Raiders usually pay for the position. Medically, McClain has battled Crohn’s Disease, although it has had no discernible effect on his ability to practice and play.

Quotable: I love Ray Lewis. I like the way he plays the game. He’s one of the best to ever play linebacker. Not just his play, but the way he’s able to get the guys up. He’s inspirational and he’s a real leader. That’s why I pride myself after him.







i wouldnt mind drafting him, doubt Al would do it unless somene picks up kirk morrison tender
 
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Raiders rejecting the renegades
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, April 12th, 2010 at 2:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Ten years ago the Raiders made Sebastian Janikowski the No. 17 pick of the first round of the NFL draft, and you wonder if they’d do it again.


It wasn’t simply that Janikowski was a place-kicker. Janikowski was a place-kicker with a rap sheet. He had a well-deserved reputation as a party boy at Florida State, complete with run-ins with law enforcement that included involvement with the date rap drug GHB which were yet to be sorted out in court.

Al Davis was undeterred. He selected Janikowski, who held his conference call in a bar from a golf course. After a few incidents that included DUI and a mysterious fall on a dance floor, Janikowski has stayed out of police reports for a few years now. Everyone lived happily ever after.

You still read about the Raiders being the natural destination for any player who has issues with law enforcement or behavioral problems. But as their disinterest in Santonio Holmes illustrates, the Raiders aren’t looking for renegades anymore.

Holmes is the kind of player the old-style Raiders would have pursued in a heartbeat. A young, speedy receiver at his peak who was a standout in the Super Bowl. A difference-maker who gets in trouble from time to time and is considered of questionable character.

The word is Holmes was shopped all over the league, and all the Jets had to give up was a fifth-round draft pick.

The Raiders, or anyone else, could have had Holmes with a better offer.

The closest thing to high-maintenance in their current receiving corps is Louis Murphy, a fourth-round pick who is an earnest but moody talent who sometimes lets his emotions get the better of him on the field, with no hint of trouble off it.

Second-year receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey is one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet, as is third-year receiver Chaz Schilens. Johnnie Lee Higgins is laid-back and easy-going, not one to utter a discouraging word if his performance slips or his playing time is down.

There has apparently been no thought given to bringing in Terrell Owens, one of the most productive problem players of this or any era.

It goes further than the position of wide receiver.

Setting aside JaMarcus Russell’s motivational issues, look at Raiders draft picks over the past few years and it’s apparent they not only want to look good coming off the bus, but they want to look like professionals as well.

Other than an incident with some teammates in a car involving Tyvon Branch and a pellet gun in college _ a transgression which would have made the 1970s Raiders laugh out loud _ the Raiders are more choirboy than bad boy.

Darren McFadden came with some baggage for a parking lot brawl at a bar (coming to the aid of his brother) but has been pleasant, friendly and trouble-free since he arrived. In no particular order, players such as Zach Miller, Mike Mitchell, Matt Shaughnessy, Trevor Scott, Mario Henderson, Thomas Howard and Kirk Morrison measured up on only on the height-weight-speed criteria but as players who aren’t going to be a problem in the locker room or outside of it.

UPDATE: The Raiders announced they have brought back linebacker Sam Williams, another problem-free locker room influence . . .

When and how did the Raiders change?

The guess here is it was a gradual thing that started with Randy Moss.

In trading for Moss, Davis had himself the NFL’s most explosive offensive player. Even as some of his coaches and former players wondered if Moss’ skills were slipping, Davis held fast to the belief that he was as good as ever.

Davis even said it after Moss was dealt for a fourth-round draft pick, which be became the forgettable John Bowie. Davis said he made the deal at the behest of his coaches. Sure enough, Davis was right _ Moss was immediately a dominant player.

Yet Moss wouldn’t play for the Raiders, and there was nothing anyone could say to get him to change his mind.

To a lesser extent, Jerry Porter was a solid receiver who let his personality get in the way of production as well.

If Moss was the start of a Raider revelation, the trade for DeAngelo Hall and the signing of Javon Walker were two more costly acquisitions that cost the Raiders some $20 million for nothing in return.

Hall and Walker were distractions at their previous stops _ Hall in Atlanta, Walker in Green Bay and Denver _ and not much changed in Oakland. Their character issues were secondary to their poor play, but on some level Davis may have come to believe or been sold on the idea that the two things are connected.

Since then, the Raiders have concentrated on retaining the players they already know, such as Nnamdi Asomugha, Shane Lechler and Janikowski. They’ve bought in veterans with impeccable credentials in terms of work ethic and dedication, most notably defensive end Richard Seymour, but the same idea applied to the departed Greg Ellis, Lorenzo Neal and Jeff Garcia.

Their lone outside acquisition this year, linebacker Kamerion Wimbley, showed up immediately to the offseason program and began punching a clock.

As prospective draftees are picked apart in the coming days, expect anyone with a character question to be immediately associated with Oakland, although the reality is it’s more punch-line than fact.










fuck sam williams, why would we bring him back???????? the guy is garbage!!!!!!!
 
Please someone take new ownership of this franchise this old bastard can't think straight anymore. He needs to stop overpaying these young players who don't produce for the team such as Jamarcus Russell and Heywerd Bey to name a few. They both could perhaps be busts in the making. Russell can throw 70 yards from his knees but can't make a fuckin decent accurate throw to a teammate 10 yards away i mean cmon now. On the other side you got Heywerd Bey who has great speed but can't catch the ball, nor has no knowledge regarding the routes he's supposed to run.
 
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I was watching an interview with Joe Haden (CB-Florida) yesterday, and he said the Raiders were a team that had shown interest.

We'll probably end up selecting Chree (Catcher-Cal. State-Fullerton Softball team) with the 8th pick, and then trading the rest of our picks for a giraffe and a scooter.
 
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great, now im reading Raiders are looking at Tebow....
Saw that, too. You don't take Tebow in a situation like Oakland has, with no QB to speak of at the moment. You especially don't take him that high. Somewhere in the 2nd-3rd round, but on a team that has an established QB, and would use Tebow in short down situations, both as a HB and a decoy, and as a back-up. New England comes to mind, as does Pittsburgh, and the other team I'm thinking of is San Diego.

But who knows...we may trade away all 8 of our picks, along with Nnamdi and our cheerleaders for the 7th overall pick, just so we can be sure we draft him.