Miguel Cotto vs. Zab Judah set for June 9th
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^^^You Gots ta chill like EPMD said, with all that "I DONT GivE A FUCK" talk,
I don't know shit about boxing because my opinion doesn't match with what the boxing forums say? alright...Didn't they also say Cotto would have trouble with Zab's speed, has no chin etc.
...and I stand by what I said Cotto has a Good chance against ANY WELTERWEIGHT in the division, and I expect to see the welterweight unification on the way.
I don't know shit about boxing because my opinion doesn't match with what the boxing forums say? alright...Didn't they also say Cotto would have trouble with Zab's speed, has no chin etc.
...and I stand by what I said Cotto has a Good chance against ANY WELTERWEIGHT in the division, and I expect to see the welterweight unification on the way.
Yoel Judah was telling Zab what he needed to do, KEEP PUNCHING !! but once again Zab's stamina failed him AGAIN !!! he fought pretty much the same fight he did v.s. mayweather (except for the low blows this time lol) fought good in the first handful of rounds, then after that, just blaaaah........he showed heart tho, but wish he coulda thrown sum punches !!! oh well......i wanna see Mosely fight ANYONE !! probably not till next year !!
Mayweather Not Impressed By Cotto Win
By Mark Vester
In a recent interview with the New York Times , Leonard Ellerbe, advisor to Floyd Mayweather Jr., told the paper that neither he nor Mayweather were impressed by Miguel Cotto's recent eleven-round TKO win over Zab Judah. Ellerbe said that at this moment in time, Mayweather is standing by his decision to stay retired and has no interest in fighting Cotto.
“Miguel Cotto ain’t even in the same stratosphere as Floyd Mayweather,” Ellerbe said. “He’s a good little young fighter. He makes a lot of mistakes. In time, as he gets better, he’ll become a better fighter."
Ellerbe also told the New Jersey Star-Ledger that Judah was not at his best, he was coming off a long layoff, and was physically affected by the low blows that Cotto blasted him with in the first and third round.
"What ... did beating Zab Judah mean? We've been there and did that a year and a half ago," said Ellerbe. "They fought Zab after he just got beat by Floyd, then he's suspended for a whole year ... and you can't count that little fight Zab had in April because it didn't even go a round. Zab didn't have a chance to get any work in. They caught Zab at the right time. His last fight was 12 hard rounds against Floyd (in April 2006). ... Zab is a very good fighter, better than the fighter people saw Saturday night. He was not at his best.
"I picked Zab to knock Cotto out early and he almost did that. He just couldn't sustain that attack because he'd been off too long. Cotto's been busy, like he should be."
Mayweather made $20 million dollars for his May battle with Oscar De La Hoya, and Ellerbe told The Ledger that Cotto is not at that stage of the game. Even though Madison Square Garden was sold out with 20,600 fans, he says the popularity of the event was based on the location, and not the overall market value of the fighters involved. In his opinion, Cotto needs to go out and fight a higher level of opponents and make himself popular in other areas of the country before knocking on Mayweather's door.
"That was a regional fight Saturday night. It'll be interesting to see what the pay-per-view numbers are, but it was a great fight. He makes way too many mistakes to even remotely think of stepping up in the ring with Floyd Mayweather. Cotto needs to do what all young fighters do, go out and win a bunch of fights against top fighters before barking the big dog's name," Ellerbe said.
Send News Tips and Comments To Mark Vester @ [email protected]
By Mark Vester
In a recent interview with the New York Times , Leonard Ellerbe, advisor to Floyd Mayweather Jr., told the paper that neither he nor Mayweather were impressed by Miguel Cotto's recent eleven-round TKO win over Zab Judah. Ellerbe said that at this moment in time, Mayweather is standing by his decision to stay retired and has no interest in fighting Cotto.
“Miguel Cotto ain’t even in the same stratosphere as Floyd Mayweather,” Ellerbe said. “He’s a good little young fighter. He makes a lot of mistakes. In time, as he gets better, he’ll become a better fighter."
Ellerbe also told the New Jersey Star-Ledger that Judah was not at his best, he was coming off a long layoff, and was physically affected by the low blows that Cotto blasted him with in the first and third round.
"What ... did beating Zab Judah mean? We've been there and did that a year and a half ago," said Ellerbe. "They fought Zab after he just got beat by Floyd, then he's suspended for a whole year ... and you can't count that little fight Zab had in April because it didn't even go a round. Zab didn't have a chance to get any work in. They caught Zab at the right time. His last fight was 12 hard rounds against Floyd (in April 2006). ... Zab is a very good fighter, better than the fighter people saw Saturday night. He was not at his best.
"I picked Zab to knock Cotto out early and he almost did that. He just couldn't sustain that attack because he'd been off too long. Cotto's been busy, like he should be."
Mayweather made $20 million dollars for his May battle with Oscar De La Hoya, and Ellerbe told The Ledger that Cotto is not at that stage of the game. Even though Madison Square Garden was sold out with 20,600 fans, he says the popularity of the event was based on the location, and not the overall market value of the fighters involved. In his opinion, Cotto needs to go out and fight a higher level of opponents and make himself popular in other areas of the country before knocking on Mayweather's door.
"That was a regional fight Saturday night. It'll be interesting to see what the pay-per-view numbers are, but it was a great fight. He makes way too many mistakes to even remotely think of stepping up in the ring with Floyd Mayweather. Cotto needs to do what all young fighters do, go out and win a bunch of fights against top fighters before barking the big dog's name," Ellerbe said.
Send News Tips and Comments To Mark Vester @ [email protected]
I agree with Parkboyz and 4fifteenrolla...
Good call Miggidy. Miggidy said Zab would hurt Cotto early but wouldn't finish him off.
I thought Zab showed heart by fighting for as long as he did. But mentally something is wrong with this cat. After seeing him land that left counter uppercut I thought he was going to knock Cotto out. That punch was flush and hurt Cotto. I don't even know why Zab didn't follow up???? Did Zab ever throw a combination? What is wrong with Zab? He is quick as hell. I don't understand why he stopped punching.
Cotto is a good fighter but he's going to get knocked out. Mayweather or Sugar Shane would embarrass Cotto.
Good call Miggidy. Miggidy said Zab would hurt Cotto early but wouldn't finish him off.
I thought Zab showed heart by fighting for as long as he did. But mentally something is wrong with this cat. After seeing him land that left counter uppercut I thought he was going to knock Cotto out. That punch was flush and hurt Cotto. I don't even know why Zab didn't follow up???? Did Zab ever throw a combination? What is wrong with Zab? He is quick as hell. I don't understand why he stopped punching.
Cotto is a good fighter but he's going to get knocked out. Mayweather or Sugar Shane would embarrass Cotto.
I agree, Cotto landed alot of punches to the body as well as some hard shots back by the kidney area. If Zab's pissing blood it's probably from the accumulation of those shots and not just the low blows. It was just a rough fight and when you fight a body puncher that's going to happen, it's part of the game. If it was that serious he would have taken the full 5 minutes to recover from each one. Even though he's one of my favorite fighters in the ring, I know it's in Judah's nature to make excuses (check all his losses) so this doesn't suprise me.
Zab showed tremendous heart.
But it was the same old Zab....
The only time Zab was ever out of character was when he beat Spinks in the rematch. But what he did to Cotto, he has done it all through out his career.
He hurts people when he puts punches together but never seems to finish his opponents. Like you said, he just simply stops punching.
Cotto was asked this question when he was a guest at ESPN's Friday Night Fights and he thought that Zab just gets tired and thus his punch output goes down. We can all see that but you just pointed out something that Judah does all the time, yet very few see; he doesn't follow up when he hurts people. He did it against Tszyu, Mayweather, and now Cotto....
As for the low blows, I wouldn't have taken a point away from Cotto.
It was Mayweather's fault.
Mayweather clearly pulled Cotto's head down, and if you're a hardcore boxing fan you know that any body shots will go low when your head is pulled down like that. I was yelling at the television when I saw that, yet HBO's commentators as usual totally missed it.
Well Manny pointed it out the end of the telecast.
Anyways this goes out to those of you who "think" Cotto is chopped liver against Mayweather or Mosley. Think again....
Any fighter that fights with the intensity that Cotto brings will have a tough time with him no matter what. Zab was the faster guy, yet Cotto surprised me by being able to find him so easily and consistantly beating him to the punch (thanx to his jab). Mosley ALWAYS has problems against fighters with good jabs. The jab ALWAYS keeps him off balance and prevents him from setting his feet in order to throw punches.
I would give Cotto the slight advantage.
Mayweather? Cotto's pressure will give him problems. We all saw how Mayweather struggles when he is pressured (Vargas, Castillo, De La Hoya).
It won't matter that Cotto is slower as long as he can jab his way in and land those body shots.
How Mayweather responds to this pressure will be key in the way he wins.
He can win it comfortably, or he can have a long and tough night.
It's not a lock as you most think, not when Mayweather looked as bad as he did in his last fight. He's got some homework to do....
But it was the same old Zab....
The only time Zab was ever out of character was when he beat Spinks in the rematch. But what he did to Cotto, he has done it all through out his career.
He hurts people when he puts punches together but never seems to finish his opponents. Like you said, he just simply stops punching.
Cotto was asked this question when he was a guest at ESPN's Friday Night Fights and he thought that Zab just gets tired and thus his punch output goes down. We can all see that but you just pointed out something that Judah does all the time, yet very few see; he doesn't follow up when he hurts people. He did it against Tszyu, Mayweather, and now Cotto....
As for the low blows, I wouldn't have taken a point away from Cotto.
It was Mayweather's fault.
Mayweather clearly pulled Cotto's head down, and if you're a hardcore boxing fan you know that any body shots will go low when your head is pulled down like that. I was yelling at the television when I saw that, yet HBO's commentators as usual totally missed it.
Well Manny pointed it out the end of the telecast.
Anyways this goes out to those of you who "think" Cotto is chopped liver against Mayweather or Mosley. Think again....
Any fighter that fights with the intensity that Cotto brings will have a tough time with him no matter what. Zab was the faster guy, yet Cotto surprised me by being able to find him so easily and consistantly beating him to the punch (thanx to his jab). Mosley ALWAYS has problems against fighters with good jabs. The jab ALWAYS keeps him off balance and prevents him from setting his feet in order to throw punches.
I would give Cotto the slight advantage.
Mayweather? Cotto's pressure will give him problems. We all saw how Mayweather struggles when he is pressured (Vargas, Castillo, De La Hoya).
It won't matter that Cotto is slower as long as he can jab his way in and land those body shots.
How Mayweather responds to this pressure will be key in the way he wins.
He can win it comfortably, or he can have a long and tough night.
It's not a lock as you most think, not when Mayweather looked as bad as he did in his last fight. He's got some homework to do....
Intensity? Toughness? Bloody? Strong? Thats the same shit they said about Gatti!
As for the whole thing about Cotto beating Zab to the punch yeah cuz Zab wasnt tryn to really be the aggressor. LOL didnt u see him tryn to counter the whole night? or was i watching a different fight?
When the fuck was Zab ever promoted as a defensive fighter? Ive NEVER seen Zab try to counterpunch all night. The Zab when he's giving it his all presses the attack! Goddamn who remember Zab's pre Tzu fights?!?!
Where the fuck are the stats on THrown and landed punches?!?
Why are yall giving him points for gettin punched all night RATHER than laying it on the line and tryn to punch back!? Maybe im just not the type to think that was a performance worth praising, i think Im probably on the side of Yoel Judah, his trainer and father whom if i recall correctly was telling him to P-U-N-C-H ! and didnt say shit about him having heart
If Judah showed heart in this fight then Paul Malignaggi showed JESUS STRENGHT HEART which is 10000x more than Judah showed!
As for the whole thing about Cotto beating Zab to the punch yeah cuz Zab wasnt tryn to really be the aggressor. LOL didnt u see him tryn to counter the whole night? or was i watching a different fight?
When the fuck was Zab ever promoted as a defensive fighter? Ive NEVER seen Zab try to counterpunch all night. The Zab when he's giving it his all presses the attack! Goddamn who remember Zab's pre Tzu fights?!?!
Where the fuck are the stats on THrown and landed punches?!?
Why are yall giving him points for gettin punched all night RATHER than laying it on the line and tryn to punch back!? Maybe im just not the type to think that was a performance worth praising, i think Im probably on the side of Yoel Judah, his trainer and father whom if i recall correctly was telling him to P-U-N-C-H ! and didnt say shit about him having heart
If Judah showed heart in this fight then Paul Malignaggi showed JESUS STRENGHT HEART which is 10000x more than Judah showed!
when the last time u seen anyone jab Floyd all night? and if u name Oscar De La Hoya and try to put DLH and Cotto on the same degree of skill and ability u might as well kill that.
How Mayweather reponds to pressure? I think Mayweather has always responded to pressure. Most of his fights are against guys that come forward all night long, which i think plays into his masterful gameplan
How Mayweather reponds to pressure? I think Mayweather has always responded to pressure. Most of his fights are against guys that come forward all night long, which i think plays into his masterful gameplan
Why are you putting Cotto in the same league as Gatti?
Please explain to me why you think Gatti would've done the same to Judah....
It doesn't matter!
Whether he was sitting back tryin to counter means nothing, he was still getting beat to the punch even when he tried to retaliate.
And perhaps Zab was in love with countering for 4 reasons:
One, he may have felt Cotto's punch and didn't want to exchange with him.
Two, he fell in love with the knock out punch when he hurt Cotto and wasn't looking to put punches together. Instead he was looking for the homerun shot.
Three, he was pacing himself because of his inactivity.
And four, maybe Cotto's punches wore him down!
It's not rocket science!
Compubox to the rescue.
That's not the first in these neck of the woods....
The last time I checked, cats in here are praising his heart.
You seem to liken punch output with courage.
What if he wasn't throwing for the reasons I mentioned above, what if it was all of the above? What does that have to do with balls????
The man took a beating and took it like a man. He didn't quit!
And in the boxing world, we call that having heart.... Kid!
I'm not putting Cotto in the same league as De La Hoya but if DLH did that to him, Cotto's got a good shot at finding similar success.
And remember, I didn't say Cotto was going to pull it off.
Why are you so defensive? You're not Mayweather.
Go back and re-read what I said, I'm simply stating a case about why I think Cotto's got a better shot than the ass whoopin everyone around here seems to think he'll take against Mayweather!
Against mediocre opposition he shines, but he struggles against good fighters who "effectively" pressure him.
And why do you ask in the first place? Do a Youtube search on the fighters I named....
Please explain to me why you think Gatti would've done the same to Judah....
It doesn't matter!
Whether he was sitting back tryin to counter means nothing, he was still getting beat to the punch even when he tried to retaliate.
And perhaps Zab was in love with countering for 4 reasons:
One, he may have felt Cotto's punch and didn't want to exchange with him.
Two, he fell in love with the knock out punch when he hurt Cotto and wasn't looking to put punches together. Instead he was looking for the homerun shot.
Three, he was pacing himself because of his inactivity.
And four, maybe Cotto's punches wore him down!
It's not rocket science!
Compubox to the rescue.
That's not the first in these neck of the woods....
The last time I checked, cats in here are praising his heart.
You seem to liken punch output with courage.
What if he wasn't throwing for the reasons I mentioned above, what if it was all of the above? What does that have to do with balls????
The man took a beating and took it like a man. He didn't quit!
And in the boxing world, we call that having heart.... Kid!
I'm not putting Cotto in the same league as De La Hoya but if DLH did that to him, Cotto's got a good shot at finding similar success.
And remember, I didn't say Cotto was going to pull it off.
Why are you so defensive? You're not Mayweather.
Go back and re-read what I said, I'm simply stating a case about why I think Cotto's got a better shot than the ass whoopin everyone around here seems to think he'll take against Mayweather!
Against mediocre opposition he shines, but he struggles against good fighters who "effectively" pressure him.
And why do you ask in the first place? Do a Youtube search on the fighters I named....
Im not putting them in the same league. And secondly I was referring to how u said Cotto would match up to PBF. Styles make fights and Floyd chooses em carefully, and Cotto's style would fit perfectly. Im not sayin its gonna be easy but it wont be a loss 4 Floyd. Cotto can look like a great offensive fighter against people who will sit infront of him waitin on a counter they never throw, but not against a man that understands angles, fighting going backwards and faster hands with more power.
I dunno about struggles. Its not just a cake walk 4 him, because they are great fighters themselves. Do u clown on ur fav football team when they beat the worst team in the league by 45 but consistantly beat their rivals by ONLY 3 or 7?
Unless ur Floyd Mayweather, Sugar Ray Leonard, Sugar Shane, or someone with blazing speed, that Judah doesnt possess most of the time u wont beat ur opponent to the punch when u counter but u will catch em right after they catch u when they r exposed. So yeah it goes without saying that Cotto was landing 1st because he was being ALLOWED to throw first. And of course Cotto wore down Judah because Judah wasnt punching enough to keep him off him.
I dunno about struggles. Its not just a cake walk 4 him, because they are great fighters themselves. Do u clown on ur fav football team when they beat the worst team in the league by 45 but consistantly beat their rivals by ONLY 3 or 7?
Unless ur Floyd Mayweather, Sugar Ray Leonard, Sugar Shane, or someone with blazing speed, that Judah doesnt possess most of the time u wont beat ur opponent to the punch when u counter but u will catch em right after they catch u when they r exposed. So yeah it goes without saying that Cotto was landing 1st because he was being ALLOWED to throw first. And of course Cotto wore down Judah because Judah wasnt punching enough to keep him off him.