Mayweather V. Ortiz
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Fuck Mayweather and his cheap shots. He seen Cortez wasn't paying attention and he took full advantage of the situation....legally? Yeah. Due to Cortez's incompetence as a referee his I'm firm but I'm fair bullshit flew out the window that night. Dude acted like he didn't know wtf was going on in that situation at all. That article with the unknown referee a page or two back was spot on.
Ortiz never should have threw that headbutt in the first place and in the unfortunate events that followed can be seen as karma I guess. I just don't see it that way, Ortiz officially paid for it with the point deduction and showed his remorse by apologizing right afterward as he knew he fucked up. That still didn't give Floyd the right to take advantage of him like he did though imo.....In the end though, as much as it pains me to say this....In combat of any sort, you must protect yourself at all times and Ortiz did not do this. He put to much faith into the referee and he paid for it.
All Floyd did was damage an already damaged character that night and did nothing to sway the public's dislike for him as a person either. As bad ass as he is in the ring, he will never get the recognition he so desperately seeks from the mob aka the people when it comes to his legacy as a fighter.
There are more people wanting him to lose then wanting him to win in this world. Call it hating all you want but its the truth. He brought this on himself.
Ortiz never should have threw that headbutt in the first place and in the unfortunate events that followed can be seen as karma I guess. I just don't see it that way, Ortiz officially paid for it with the point deduction and showed his remorse by apologizing right afterward as he knew he fucked up. That still didn't give Floyd the right to take advantage of him like he did though imo.....In the end though, as much as it pains me to say this....In combat of any sort, you must protect yourself at all times and Ortiz did not do this. He put to much faith into the referee and he paid for it.
All Floyd did was damage an already damaged character that night and did nothing to sway the public's dislike for him as a person either. As bad ass as he is in the ring, he will never get the recognition he so desperately seeks from the mob aka the people when it comes to his legacy as a fighter.
There are more people wanting him to lose then wanting him to win in this world. Call it hating all you want but its the truth. He brought this on himself.
for the record talking about ppv ratings...ppl paying to watch floyd lose is a relatively new thing. he brags about how he's mr ppv, the cash cow, and how the sport is dead without him etc. but lets not forget the ppv numbers before he fought de la hoya.
before their super fight together:
de la hoya vs mayorga = 875,000 ppv buys and $43.8 million in ppv revenue
mayweather vs baldomir?? = 325,000 ppv buys and $16.8 million in ppv revenue
lol! kind of a big difference huh?
and mayweather has the audacity to say the ppv numbers from that big fight were cause of him. de la hoya catapulted that motherfuckers career (not boxing wise, but MONEY wise, which is what he's all about) but he will never admit to it. the masses did not give a fuck to pay for his fights for like the first 90% of his career.
if dlh decided to dodge him cause he was afraid of getting an L the way floyd seems to dodge some cats (and if it weren't for 24/7)... theres a chance mayweather would still just be a great boxer but not nearly as rich. and not nearly as many ppl would hate him or jock him as hard as they do now.
to floyds credit, his wwf style "money may" heel persona he's created for the media has been huge too
before their super fight together:
de la hoya vs mayorga = 875,000 ppv buys and $43.8 million in ppv revenue
mayweather vs baldomir?? = 325,000 ppv buys and $16.8 million in ppv revenue
lol! kind of a big difference huh?
and mayweather has the audacity to say the ppv numbers from that big fight were cause of him. de la hoya catapulted that motherfuckers career (not boxing wise, but MONEY wise, which is what he's all about) but he will never admit to it. the masses did not give a fuck to pay for his fights for like the first 90% of his career.
if dlh decided to dodge him cause he was afraid of getting an L the way floyd seems to dodge some cats (and if it weren't for 24/7)... theres a chance mayweather would still just be a great boxer but not nearly as rich. and not nearly as many ppl would hate him or jock him as hard as they do now.
to floyds credit, his wwf style "money may" heel persona he's created for the media has been huge too
They are undefeated as well. Never really fought top competition until the opponent was on the way out. At least Calzaghe stepped up and took on Lacy. Remember he also beat Hopkins, who is a great. Schooled RJJ at his own style. Joe Calzaghe gets no credit as well.
Yes, the general media. Who else is supposed to recognize him? Boxing writers? Hardcore boxing fans? It's the general media that makes fighters who they are. DLH has more claim to fame. Duran will be placed above as well. I'm naming different boxers because people swear Floyd will be placed as some all time great. Mike Tyson will outshine Floyd in 50 years.
I'm a huge fan of Floyd's boxing skills. I think he is great in the ring. I just believe it's his lack of risk, obsession over money, and being a total asshole outside of the ring that will prevent his legacy from being worth anything.
Here is the difference though.
Hopkins has lost, and can continue to lose. It won't matter.
If Manny gives Floyd a beat down. Then what? The media and probably the entire world will label him as exposed, for getting schooled when he finally fought another top caliber opponent in his prime. Then what happens to his legacy? It's shot.
Then on the flip side, Manny can lose, and he will still be known as one of the best. That's just how it is. It's the general media. Not my personal opinion or yours.
Yes, the general media. Who else is supposed to recognize him? Boxing writers? Hardcore boxing fans? It's the general media that makes fighters who they are. DLH has more claim to fame. Duran will be placed above as well. I'm naming different boxers because people swear Floyd will be placed as some all time great. Mike Tyson will outshine Floyd in 50 years.
I'm a huge fan of Floyd's boxing skills. I think he is great in the ring. I just believe it's his lack of risk, obsession over money, and being a total asshole outside of the ring that will prevent his legacy from being worth anything.
Here is the difference though.
Hopkins has lost, and can continue to lose. It won't matter.
If Manny gives Floyd a beat down. Then what? The media and probably the entire world will label him as exposed, for getting schooled when he finally fought another top caliber opponent in his prime. Then what happens to his legacy? It's shot.
Then on the flip side, Manny can lose, and he will still be known as one of the best. That's just how it is. It's the general media. Not my personal opinion or yours.
Pacquiao has had some flashes of brilliance going backwards but for the most part, he's like any other fighter and doesn't like being backed up or when fighters throw combinations. That's why Pac dominates because he'll rattle off a 5 punch combo from every angle and people don't even try and throw back with the exception of Marquez and Morales who happened to have great success against Pac.
No. The last time I watched a Floyd Mayweather PPV fight was when he fought DeLaHoya....
Exactly.
Floyd will never be DeLaHoya when it comes to PPV numbers. Never.
Get it out of your head .....Floyd is a great Technically sound defensive beast of a boxer.......but he ain't pullin the numbers like you all think.
LOL
Exactly.
Floyd will never be DeLaHoya when it comes to PPV numbers. Never.
Get it out of your head .....Floyd is a great Technically sound defensive beast of a boxer.......but he ain't pullin the numbers like you all think.
LOL