Mayweather V. Ortiz

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Great fight for the sport.... Who u got?

  • Ortiz by KO

    Votes: 10 12.3%
  • Mayweather by KO

    Votes: 24 29.6%
  • Ortiz by points

    Votes: 5 6.2%
  • Mayweather by points

    Votes: 42 51.9%

  • Total voters
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LOl. Keep on hating every fight after ODLH has done a million plus buys on PPV. Stop it Mayweagther is the biggest star in boxing and he's making the most money. Check the PPV numbers Mayweather is boxing biggest star since Oscar. Number don't lie but hater do..
 
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Arum: Ortiz Wanted a Way Out, So He Fouled Floyd

By Keith Idec

NEW YORK — Count Bob Arum among those that think Floyd Mayweather Jr. shouldn’t have hit Victor Ortiz when Ortiz’s hands were down Saturday night.

“That was a cheap [bleeping] shot,” Arum said of the left-right Mayweather combination that ended their WBC welterweight title fight in the fourth round. “And the referee [Joe Cortez], who didn’t know what he was doing … what do you mean, he told the timekeeper, ‘Time in?’ Shouldn’t he have told the fighters, ‘Time in.’ It was horrible for boxing, horrible.”

Arum, Mayweather’s former promoter and longtime antagonist, also suspects Ortiz’s intentional head-butt earlier in the fourth round was the former champion’s way of indicating he didn’t want to continue in a fight he was clearly losing.

“Why do you think he butted him?,” Arum said before a press conference to promote the Miguel Cotto-Antonio Margarito rematch Dec. 3 at Madison Square Garden. “He just wanted to get out of there, in my opinion. That was such a flagrant foul that it was like a guy looking to get disqualified. And after what happened to him, you would expect him to arise in protest. But he’s grinning like ‘The Cheshire Cat,’ because he’s finally out of there.

“For whatever you want to say about Mayweather, about it being a cheap shot, and the referee for screwing it up, there are no medals on Ortiz. Ortiz demonstrated a lot of what he demonstrated in the Maidana fight.”

Arum referred to Ortiz quitting in the sixth round of his junior welterweight title fight against Argentina’s Marcos Maidana in June 2009 in Los Angeles. Unlike the Ortiz-Maidana fight, Arum added that the controversial conclusion to Mayweather’s win against Ortiz actually impacted him and his promotional company, Top Rank Inc.

“I was having a meeting [Tuesday], and I’m not going to name the company, but with a major, major sponsor that was ready to put a million dollars into boxing,” Arum said. “They were flying in a marketing director and so forth. This guy, unfortunately, was at the fight on Saturday, because he had been invited by a friend of mine in Las Vegas. They don’t want to touch boxing after what they saw on Saturday. Now, you may say ‘Protect yourself at all times,’ but they don’t want to know from boxing after what happened. And I don’t blame them.”


If Arum knows Ortiz was looking for a way out.
 
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But Mayweather is not a star??

Mayweather vs Hatton 1.8 million PPV buys
Mayweather vs Marquez 1 million PPV buys
Mayweather vs Mosley 1.4 million PPV buys

Numbers don't lie..
 
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Compubox really fucked up on the floyd-ortiz punch numbers. They said in round 4 Ortiz only threw 27 punches. re-watch that round and you'll see Ortiz threw between 47-50 total punches (not including half assed "pawing" jabs). This is why they need to re-watch the tape and have official numbers.

anyways, I liked when floyd let his hands go at the start of the round. He rarely does it but when he does, man....he needs to do it more
 
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206 you're not counting the UK buys for the Hatton fight which where a 1 million plus. it's sold better in the UK then the US.
you don't count the oversea PPV's. When you bring up pac, or floyd or whomever you don't include German PPV numbers or whatever other country has it on PPV because it's not distributed through america. When you talk about HBO ratings you don't bring in UK ratings etc.

Besides, that's all Ricky Hatton anyway. He actually ended up getting paid more money than floyd because he got all that UK PPV money. Same with against Pac.
 

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Compubox really fucked up on the floyd-ortiz punch numbers. They said in round 4 Ortiz only threw 27 punches. re-watch that round and you'll see Ortiz threw between 47-50 total punches (not including half assed "pawing" jabs). This is why they need to re-watch the tape and have official numbers.

anyways, I liked when floyd let his hands go at the start of the round. He rarely does it but when he does, man....he needs to do it more
I think the reason why he rarely does it is due to his uncle. If Floyd goes out and tries to bang, and his uncle doesn't feel the person is ready to go yet, he'll reel Floyd in and tell him to stop doing thats hit (he'll either yell it out or he'll tell him when the round is over.)
 
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damn, they just removed it from youtube. There was this really cool video of the fourth round and they did slow mo any time any punches were thrown. Watching that, Ortiz actually did a lot better in that round than I initially thought...he slipped some punches with head movement, and did land clean a number of times.

sucks it's been removed. I'm sure it will be back on eventually.
 

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damn, they just removed it from youtube. There was this really cool video of the fourth round and they did slow mo any time any punches were thrown. Watching that, Ortiz actually did a lot better in that round than I initially thought...he slipped some punches with head movement, and did land clean a number of times.

sucks it's been removed. I'm sure it will be back on eventually.
They've been taking down all the youtube clips of the fight.
 

Tony

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I actually thought Ortiz was winning the 4th until he got that point taken away.

How did y'all have it scored?

I think I may have had it 2-1 or 3-0 for Floyd, if Victor didn't get that point taken away in the 4th, It could have been 2-2 or 3-1 going into the 5th round.
 
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HERESY, is about unbiased as you can get. I remember when he was getting on us Floyd fans for backing Floyd in regards to the drug test that Floyd wanted Manny to take (notice how Floyd only offered Manny a cut off date, Shane or Victor didn't get a cut off offer), so I can tell that he's keepin' it 100 and not just a Floyd hater. Right on for keepin' it 100 Heresy....

I don't see how Mayweather is a coward. Play was in... that's like some defenders complaining about Peyton Manning snapping the ball and throwing a TD pass when the defense wasn't set. If the whistle blows, it's on.
U are exactly fuckin right!!!!! I said that same football analogy to some ppl he othr day. If the. Football ref spots the ball and blows the whistle for the play to start, the defense has to be ready. Bottom line
 
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damn, they just removed it from youtube. There was this really cool video of the fourth round and they did slow mo any time any punches were thrown. Watching that, Ortiz actually did a lot better in that round than I initially thought...he slipped some punches with head movement, and did land clean a number of times.

sucks it's been removed. I'm sure it will be back on eventually.
i knew he was throwing and landing more punches in that fight then the numbers were saying all along too.

what did the flurry before the infamous headbut look like in slow mo? i seen him land a few shots in real speed so i can only imagine what they looked like slow.
 
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I got the shit on dvr and watched it plenty of times, ortiz was not winning the fourth round lol at the debate still going on
 
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i knew he was throwing and landing more punches in that fight then the numbers were saying all along too.

what did the flurry before the infamous headbut look like in slow mo? i seen him land a few shots in real speed so i can only imagine what they looked like slow.
He split floyd's guard and landed at least two clean shots.

as for floyd's girl bettin on that, for all we know she put $100 on round 3, $100 on round 4, $100 on round 5. And she only won $2,000. If it was $200,000 that would raise some eyebrows.