Mayweather V. Ortiz
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Floyd got the majority split on the HBO purse and the HBO PPV, however Hatton got all that UK money from the UK PPV. Why you think he retired after pac? lol dude made a KILLING in those two fights alone.
Floyd didn't make $47-50 million either, not sure where you got that number. He was guaranteed something like $11-$15 million, then made about $16 million or so off the PPV. Hatton was guaranteed something like $6 mil, but made about $30 million or more (translated to dollar value, he got over or around £20million) just from the UK PPV).
Floyd didn't make $47-50 million either, not sure where you got that number. He was guaranteed something like $11-$15 million, then made about $16 million or so off the PPV. Hatton was guaranteed something like $6 mil, but made about $30 million or more (translated to dollar value, he got over or around £20million) just from the UK PPV).
Not a good analogy. When people touch gloves, it's a sign of showing respect. Kind of an unwritten rules you touch gloves and then square off, even though that's not always the case. In football, there's no showing the team "respect" by letting them get set up. In fact, that's what you want is to have the other team's defense, or offense, scrambling and get the play off before they're ready. Two entirely different things. Bottom line though, what Floyd did was legal. It is what it is.
no i wasnt saying he's not a star. but he's acting like he's BEEN the king of boxing, when in reality nobody cared to watch his fights before de la hoya (and this was deep into his career). but when called out on that he'll say his de la hoya fight was as big as it was mainly because of him...dont think so
i'd say floyds success is largely attributed to
1st - de la hoya bringing the crowd to the party
2nd - once dlh brought the crowd, floyd making a brilliant move in marketing himself as the ultimate bad guy (24/7 has been huge in supporting this)
3rd - floyd remaining undefeated
that last one is crucial which would make sense why he's chosen to fight the ppl he's chosen
thing is i think floyd has the ability to get away with not losing to pac. i think he's got this all mapped out and purposely keep making a fight with pac impossible to keep making money off of fighting ppl he's clearly better than (ie, Victor Ortiz's, Amir Khans, etc.)...big paydays, won't have to break a sweat, and keeps racking up bragging rights on paper.
at the same time he'll keep letting pacquiao wear his body down taking on fights where he will take a beating (ie, marquez). and once pac seems worn down enough then he'll allow the fight with pac to happen. he'll counter punch the shit out of a slower and weaker manny make a SHIT LOAD of money and retire being able to say he never lost. not a bad plan i guess
but he's still gonna let his guard down with that ms. jackson chick and she's gonna come away with all his fetti..bwahahahahaha
i'd say floyds success is largely attributed to
1st - de la hoya bringing the crowd to the party
2nd - once dlh brought the crowd, floyd making a brilliant move in marketing himself as the ultimate bad guy (24/7 has been huge in supporting this)
3rd - floyd remaining undefeated
that last one is crucial which would make sense why he's chosen to fight the ppl he's chosen
thing is i think floyd has the ability to get away with not losing to pac. i think he's got this all mapped out and purposely keep making a fight with pac impossible to keep making money off of fighting ppl he's clearly better than (ie, Victor Ortiz's, Amir Khans, etc.)...big paydays, won't have to break a sweat, and keeps racking up bragging rights on paper.
at the same time he'll keep letting pacquiao wear his body down taking on fights where he will take a beating (ie, marquez). and once pac seems worn down enough then he'll allow the fight with pac to happen. he'll counter punch the shit out of a slower and weaker manny make a SHIT LOAD of money and retire being able to say he never lost. not a bad plan i guess
but he's still gonna let his guard down with that ms. jackson chick and she's gonna come away with all his fetti..bwahahahahaha
So did he make a fight with Shane Mosley and Victor Ortiz impossible? Because all he did was ask Pacquiao to get drug tested. I mean Shane and Victor didn't get cut off dates for his requests for drug tests, Pacquiao was the only fighter offered a cut off date, so explain how Floyd is making that fight "impossible"?
i dont know man. ive read that in mid 2010 pac eventually agreed to the olympic style 14 day cutoff that floyd originally demanded AND testing right after the fight...??? but then there was the whole floyd not wanting to think about boxing and going on vacation thing. and the latest this year ive read is that floyd is demanding an absurd amount of money that is just non negotiable. so i dont know. floyd says arum and gang are liars. they say hes a liar. both have a history of being liars so who knows who to believe. but if floyd really wanted to fight it would happen. does he honestly fear pac will destroy him if he's not tested olympic style within a certain amount of days before the fight?
uhhh yeah. you didn't watch their last 2 fights? im not saying pac will lose. he might. but im just saying theres a good chance hes gonna come away bruised and battered. and yeah this is the same marquez floyd didnt have a problem with, which is part of the reason i feel floyd has a good chance keeping a zero on his record after fighting pac. i and everyone else just wanna see the fight happen to end speculation....but word on the street points toward floyd hindering it. why???? i think my earlier theory i posted is why
pacquiao has had a hell of a hard time against marquez. some argue he even lost in their last bout. so pac is obviously not afraid to fight ppl that could beat him. he's obviously not afraid to risk tacking another L on his record....so why would he be afraid and avoid fighting and losing to mayweather??
uhhh yeah. you didn't watch their last 2 fights? im not saying pac will lose. he might. but im just saying theres a good chance hes gonna come away bruised and battered. and yeah this is the same marquez floyd didnt have a problem with, which is part of the reason i feel floyd has a good chance keeping a zero on his record after fighting pac. i and everyone else just wanna see the fight happen to end speculation....but word on the street points toward floyd hindering it. why???? i think my earlier theory i posted is why
pacquiao has had a hell of a hard time against marquez. some argue he even lost in their last bout. so pac is obviously not afraid to fight ppl that could beat him. he's obviously not afraid to risk tacking another L on his record....so why would he be afraid and avoid fighting and losing to mayweather??
RingTV.com: What is your take on how the fight ended between Floyd Mayweather and Victor Ortiz?
Bernard Hopkins: Well, first of all, I can give you my opinion on this and use some humor with it that I believe that people who read this, and definitely, yourself, you will understand.
So go with this quote from me: Boxing is like dealing with a ho. You've got to protect yourself at all times. If you don't protect yourself at all times, then the repercussions can and most likely will be fierce.
So Floyd Mayweather, you know, I believe that he was just getting into his rhythm and was about to make it a whole lot worse for Victor Ortiz.
Victor Ortiz, I believe was frustrated and understood what was happening, and understood what was going to happen in the fight continued the way it was going. And that headbutt was a result of frustration and his inexperience.
B-Hop saw the samething I saw Ortiz was looking for a way out.
Bernard Hopkins: Well, first of all, I can give you my opinion on this and use some humor with it that I believe that people who read this, and definitely, yourself, you will understand.
So go with this quote from me: Boxing is like dealing with a ho. You've got to protect yourself at all times. If you don't protect yourself at all times, then the repercussions can and most likely will be fierce.
So Floyd Mayweather, you know, I believe that he was just getting into his rhythm and was about to make it a whole lot worse for Victor Ortiz.
Victor Ortiz, I believe was frustrated and understood what was happening, and understood what was going to happen in the fight continued the way it was going. And that headbutt was a result of frustration and his inexperience.
B-Hop saw the samething I saw Ortiz was looking for a way out.
Its the perfect analogy. I'm not tryna split hairs, but after the ref said "let's roll" ortiz should have been ready. How long was floys supposed 2 wait? The respect aspect went out the window when ortiz did the super mario jump into floyds chin. Bottom line ortiz showed his inexperience. This was the fight of his life,the biggest stage he has ever been on and instead of seizing the moment, he totally blew it. Ortiz was ready 2 get the hell up outa there..ortiz has a history of quitting fights.ortiz was acting real soft imo, all the kissing and huggin he was tryna do and in his personality is lightweight suspect from the jump. I wish it was a bettr fight. It shoud have went longer
