Mayweather To Return May 5th Wants Pacquiao!! STEP UP MANNY!!
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206 you're the main person that needs to shut the fuck up. Every lame ass excuse you have made for Manny have been proven wrong, but yet you still running your mouth like you know what the fuck you talking about. Don't be mad at me because I have been right for the last 2 years about Top Rank and Manny ducking the fight. If you wasn't such a Mayweather hater and opened you fucking eyes you would've seen Manny ducking Mayweather clearly as I have.
You Manny fans seem so salty now about the truth coming to light about your GOD Manny ducking the fight.
Oh I forgot Bob Arum doesn't want Manny to fight Mayweather now. LOL Bullshit excuse again like normal.
You Manny fans seem so salty now about the truth coming to light about your GOD Manny ducking the fight.
Oh I forgot Bob Arum doesn't want Manny to fight Mayweather now. LOL Bullshit excuse again like normal.
Honestly, you ride Mayweather's dick with some serious ferocity man. I really hope you're on Floyd's payroll with how ride or die you are for Team Mayweather.
We could go back & fourth all day about who did what, but what we know right now is that it looks like both guys are moving towards making the fight happen.
Still making corny ass excuse. Did you criticize Manny for ducking Mayweather to fight Clottey, or when he fought shot to shit Margarito for a catchweight vacant 154 title? No you cheerleadered and hyped up every fight. So please stop with the bullshit if he fights Marquez again. Manny fans sounds so salty and bitter now that Team Manny and Top Rank have to answer the call to fight Mayweather.
I guess it was all cool a month ago when you dumbass believed Mayweather is scared of Manny.
I guess it was all cool a month ago when you dumbass believed Mayweather is scared of Manny.
this whole thing is a mind game. both of these guys got alot of pride. pacman is not gonna fight him on may 5th. fuck no. y should he bow down to him. this fight will not happen until both sides agree 100% to all stipulations. agreeing to that date is like kissing his feet. he aint gonna do all that
^^ You are so funny but still don't change the fact that Top Rank and Manny is hiding and ducking Mayweather.
Arum Shreds Mayweather: No Chin, Fears Manny's Right!
Article Link - http://www.boxingscene.comBy Chris LaBate
Top Rank's CEO, Bob Arum, is convinced that Floyd Mayweather Jr. is never going to fight Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather, formerly promoted by Arum's company, uses every possible opportunity to throw a few verbal shots at his ex-promoter, but Arum considers the verbal daggers a calculated mirage. Mayweather's fear of Pacquiao's much improved right hand is preventing the fight from taking place, says Arum. If they ever meet, Arum predicts a Pacquiao victory by knockout in three to four rounds of action.
"That fight will never, ever happen. Ever, ever happen because of Mayweather. When Mayweather talks about how he hates Top Rank he's talking bulls---. What Mayweather hates is Manny's right hand. Mayweather has no chin and Manny will knock him out. Pacquiao and Mayweather is a three or four-round fight. Period. And who knows that best? Mayweather," Arum told ESPN Los Angeles.
The one thing Mayweather has had throughout his career is he knows boxing. He understands boxing and Mayweather can not compete with Manny. It's the right hand of Manny that is preventing that fight from happening. If Manny agreed just to jab with the right hand the fight would be made in 30 seconds."
Arum also stung Mayweather for his lack of sportsmanship in last month's four round knockout of Victor Ortiz in Las Vegas. He says the pound-for-pound fighter left a bad taste in the mouths of paying customers who shelled out $60 dollars or more for the pay-per-view.
"Mayweather demonstrated a complete lack of sportsmanship and the public that paid for that was cheated," Arum said. "I don't care about the baloney about protect yourself at all times and its a legal shot. That's not the issue. The fighter has the obligation to entertain the public and hitting this kid with two cheap shots really put a damper on boxing. For me, f--- the legacy, he cheated the public."
Wow it's funny how a month later all the talk about Mayweather being scared is gone and Top Rank is hiding not wanting to make the fight.
Arum Shreds Mayweather: No Chin, Fears Manny's Right!
Article Link - http://www.boxingscene.comBy Chris LaBate
Top Rank's CEO, Bob Arum, is convinced that Floyd Mayweather Jr. is never going to fight Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather, formerly promoted by Arum's company, uses every possible opportunity to throw a few verbal shots at his ex-promoter, but Arum considers the verbal daggers a calculated mirage. Mayweather's fear of Pacquiao's much improved right hand is preventing the fight from taking place, says Arum. If they ever meet, Arum predicts a Pacquiao victory by knockout in three to four rounds of action.
"That fight will never, ever happen. Ever, ever happen because of Mayweather. When Mayweather talks about how he hates Top Rank he's talking bulls---. What Mayweather hates is Manny's right hand. Mayweather has no chin and Manny will knock him out. Pacquiao and Mayweather is a three or four-round fight. Period. And who knows that best? Mayweather," Arum told ESPN Los Angeles.
The one thing Mayweather has had throughout his career is he knows boxing. He understands boxing and Mayweather can not compete with Manny. It's the right hand of Manny that is preventing that fight from happening. If Manny agreed just to jab with the right hand the fight would be made in 30 seconds."
Arum also stung Mayweather for his lack of sportsmanship in last month's four round knockout of Victor Ortiz in Las Vegas. He says the pound-for-pound fighter left a bad taste in the mouths of paying customers who shelled out $60 dollars or more for the pay-per-view.
"Mayweather demonstrated a complete lack of sportsmanship and the public that paid for that was cheated," Arum said. "I don't care about the baloney about protect yourself at all times and its a legal shot. That's not the issue. The fighter has the obligation to entertain the public and hitting this kid with two cheap shots really put a damper on boxing. For me, f--- the legacy, he cheated the public."
Wow it's funny how a month later all the talk about Mayweather being scared is gone and Top Rank is hiding not wanting to make the fight.
http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...ather-pacquiao
Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer is incensed in the wake of news that Top Rank Inc. CEO Bob Arum is fielding offers from potential investment groups looking to stage the megabout between THE RING's Nos. 1 and 2 pound-for-pound-rated fighters, Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Schaefer also has taken issue with a related development reported by The New York Daily News, which claims the adviser of Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38 knockouts), Michael Koncz, visited Mayweather (42-0, 26 KOs) during a light workout at the fighter's Las Vegas-based gym last week.
"We've been fielding proposals and we're talking to people," said Arum, who turns 80 on Dec. 8. "I'm sure that Floyd's doing the same."
******.com also reported both situations.
Past negotions for the megabout between Mayweather, who is handled by Golden Boy Promotions, and Pacquiao, who is promoted by Top Rank Inc., twice failed over Mayweather's insistence on Olympic-style drug testing.
"The boxing fans are really sick and tired about the lies of Bob Arum," Schaefer told ******.com. "The fact is that yesterday he was lying, today he's lying, and tomorrow, he will still be lying. Once a liar, always a liar.
"Now, he comes again with these bulls__t stories about negotiatiations and meetings taking place. Who the heck is he fooling?"
Pacquiao is coming off a controversial majority decision win over THE RING lightweight champ Juan Manuel Marquez in their third match on Nov. 12.
Arum announced at the post-fight press conference the possibility of a fourth matchup against Marquez, whom Mayweather routed by unanimous decision in September of 2009.
Two days later, Schaefer told ******.com that he would likely seek another opponent for Mayweather, who is targeted to return on May 5 to the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
Schaefer cited an e-mail from retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, the mediator who has worked closely with both sides to settle numerous lawsuits and issues in recent years, to indicate that Arum does not want to stage a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight.
But Arum told ******.com that his reasoning has more to do with the fact that his busy schedule.
After Pacquiao-Marquez III, Arum moved directly into promoting Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.'s sixth-round TKO over Peter Manfredo Jr. in Houston on Nov. 19.
In addition, Arum was dealing with issues involving a rematch between Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito, the latter of whom was not licensed to face Cotto on Dec. 3 at New York's Madison Square Garden until Nov. 23 -- 12 days before the fight.
"Everything has to wait until after the fight on Saturday," Arum told ******.com. "All of our efforts and all of our energies are being devoted to the Cotto-Margarito fight, and that program, and there will be plenty of time after that fight is over to see where we are.
"We can't do it this week. We can address it next week and see where we are. We'll all be in New York promoting Cotto-Margarito, which is a really big fight, plus the card is very deep."
Schaefer, however, is adamant in his belief that Arum simply does not want to make Mayweather-Pacquiao.
"Who is he trying to fool? The public, the fight fans, the fighters, the networks? Everybody is sick and tired of that lying snake," said Schaefer.
"Everybody is sick and tired. Arum does not want to make the Pacquiao fight, so stop believing everything this guy says."
Schaefer fired off six points he believes support his contention.
No. 1: "Arum knows damn well that Floyd and I and all of Floyd's team has a great relationship. The facts are clear, and even though some of the writers are still drinking the Bob Arum Cool Aide, you should simply look at the facts. Arum went public saying that he wants to do a fourth fight with Marquez."
No. 2: "We were informed by a retired federal judge that Arum is not interested at this time in pursuing a fight with Mayweather. Arum went on the record to say that neither he nor anyone else from Top Rank had ever talked to the judge, so is he saying that the retired federal judge is lying? I have an e-mail that will confirm it, and, with Bob's approval, I will be happy to make it available to the media."
No. 3: "He sends Michael Koncz to Mayweather's gym to stir up some bulls__t such as that there are negotiations ongoing without Golden Boy, and that Mayweather is going solo. And all of that kind of bulls__t. He probably needs to do that because his fighter is starting to ask questions."
No. 4: "Let's be clear as to what is going on here. He wants to use Floyd as leverage to get a better deal for Marquez. You read the stories that Marquez wants $20 million, and for the fight not to take place in Las Vegas.
"Well, by creating stories that negotiations with Floyd are ongoing, he wants to see how fast Marquez will come to the table and be much more reasonable. That's what is going on here."
No. 5: "There is inner turmoil within Team Pacquiao. Justs read the recent interviews involving [Pacquiao's strength and conditioning coach] Alex Ariza. I agree with Alex. I believe that Bob Arum would be well-served to be careful because the excuse of 'Well he's [Arum] 100 years old' does not fly anymore. At this particular point, the phrase, 'respect your elders' does not apply to Bob Arum.
"I'm sick and tired of this guy. Bob is always trying to get people who he can not manipulate moved out of the way and so that he can do the in-house promotions. Did you ever wonder why? Is it because he does not want to work with us? Why is that? I could tell you some really, really juicy stuff, but for now, I'm going to bite my tongue.
"I can tell you why he's doing the in-house promotions with Manny Pacquiao, but I'm going to leave that up to Manny Pacquiao to figure it out."
No. 6: "And finally, he's [Arum] giving interviews and stories are being written by guys who don't even exist. Go and try to find Chris LaBate from BoxingScene.com. Good luck. To guys writing stories who don't even exist? What the hell is going on?"
by
Lem Satterfield
Richard Schaefer is going in on Bob.
Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer is incensed in the wake of news that Top Rank Inc. CEO Bob Arum is fielding offers from potential investment groups looking to stage the megabout between THE RING's Nos. 1 and 2 pound-for-pound-rated fighters, Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Schaefer also has taken issue with a related development reported by The New York Daily News, which claims the adviser of Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38 knockouts), Michael Koncz, visited Mayweather (42-0, 26 KOs) during a light workout at the fighter's Las Vegas-based gym last week.
"We've been fielding proposals and we're talking to people," said Arum, who turns 80 on Dec. 8. "I'm sure that Floyd's doing the same."
******.com also reported both situations.
Past negotions for the megabout between Mayweather, who is handled by Golden Boy Promotions, and Pacquiao, who is promoted by Top Rank Inc., twice failed over Mayweather's insistence on Olympic-style drug testing.
"The boxing fans are really sick and tired about the lies of Bob Arum," Schaefer told ******.com. "The fact is that yesterday he was lying, today he's lying, and tomorrow, he will still be lying. Once a liar, always a liar.
"Now, he comes again with these bulls__t stories about negotiatiations and meetings taking place. Who the heck is he fooling?"
Pacquiao is coming off a controversial majority decision win over THE RING lightweight champ Juan Manuel Marquez in their third match on Nov. 12.
Arum announced at the post-fight press conference the possibility of a fourth matchup against Marquez, whom Mayweather routed by unanimous decision in September of 2009.
Two days later, Schaefer told ******.com that he would likely seek another opponent for Mayweather, who is targeted to return on May 5 to the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
Schaefer cited an e-mail from retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, the mediator who has worked closely with both sides to settle numerous lawsuits and issues in recent years, to indicate that Arum does not want to stage a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight.
But Arum told ******.com that his reasoning has more to do with the fact that his busy schedule.
After Pacquiao-Marquez III, Arum moved directly into promoting Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.'s sixth-round TKO over Peter Manfredo Jr. in Houston on Nov. 19.
In addition, Arum was dealing with issues involving a rematch between Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito, the latter of whom was not licensed to face Cotto on Dec. 3 at New York's Madison Square Garden until Nov. 23 -- 12 days before the fight.
"Everything has to wait until after the fight on Saturday," Arum told ******.com. "All of our efforts and all of our energies are being devoted to the Cotto-Margarito fight, and that program, and there will be plenty of time after that fight is over to see where we are.
"We can't do it this week. We can address it next week and see where we are. We'll all be in New York promoting Cotto-Margarito, which is a really big fight, plus the card is very deep."
Schaefer, however, is adamant in his belief that Arum simply does not want to make Mayweather-Pacquiao.
"Who is he trying to fool? The public, the fight fans, the fighters, the networks? Everybody is sick and tired of that lying snake," said Schaefer.
"Everybody is sick and tired. Arum does not want to make the Pacquiao fight, so stop believing everything this guy says."
Schaefer fired off six points he believes support his contention.
No. 1: "Arum knows damn well that Floyd and I and all of Floyd's team has a great relationship. The facts are clear, and even though some of the writers are still drinking the Bob Arum Cool Aide, you should simply look at the facts. Arum went public saying that he wants to do a fourth fight with Marquez."
No. 2: "We were informed by a retired federal judge that Arum is not interested at this time in pursuing a fight with Mayweather. Arum went on the record to say that neither he nor anyone else from Top Rank had ever talked to the judge, so is he saying that the retired federal judge is lying? I have an e-mail that will confirm it, and, with Bob's approval, I will be happy to make it available to the media."
No. 3: "He sends Michael Koncz to Mayweather's gym to stir up some bulls__t such as that there are negotiations ongoing without Golden Boy, and that Mayweather is going solo. And all of that kind of bulls__t. He probably needs to do that because his fighter is starting to ask questions."
No. 4: "Let's be clear as to what is going on here. He wants to use Floyd as leverage to get a better deal for Marquez. You read the stories that Marquez wants $20 million, and for the fight not to take place in Las Vegas.
"Well, by creating stories that negotiations with Floyd are ongoing, he wants to see how fast Marquez will come to the table and be much more reasonable. That's what is going on here."
No. 5: "There is inner turmoil within Team Pacquiao. Justs read the recent interviews involving [Pacquiao's strength and conditioning coach] Alex Ariza. I agree with Alex. I believe that Bob Arum would be well-served to be careful because the excuse of 'Well he's [Arum] 100 years old' does not fly anymore. At this particular point, the phrase, 'respect your elders' does not apply to Bob Arum.
"I'm sick and tired of this guy. Bob is always trying to get people who he can not manipulate moved out of the way and so that he can do the in-house promotions. Did you ever wonder why? Is it because he does not want to work with us? Why is that? I could tell you some really, really juicy stuff, but for now, I'm going to bite my tongue.
"I can tell you why he's doing the in-house promotions with Manny Pacquiao, but I'm going to leave that up to Manny Pacquiao to figure it out."
No. 6: "And finally, he's [Arum] giving interviews and stories are being written by guys who don't even exist. Go and try to find Chris LaBate from BoxingScene.com. Good luck. To guys writing stories who don't even exist? What the hell is going on?"
by
Lem Satterfield
Richard Schaefer is going in on Bob.
Even though I don't think booking a date & venue was the smartest thing to do by Team Mayweather, just given the way the failed negotiations have ended every time up to this point, I'd still like to see that May 5th date/location kept.
Let's keep it real here, Arum is the promoter but Manny is a big enough star now that he can fight who and when he wants.
The only opponent either man should be fighting next is each other. Period.
Let's keep it real here, Arum is the promoter but Manny is a big enough star now that he can fight who and when he wants.
The only opponent either man should be fighting next is each other. Period.
^^^^It's about time you figured that out.
Just because we "defend" Mayweather doesn't mean we're riding his nuts. We're just calling it like we see it....
Mayweather is his own boss and "he" decides who he fights.
Bob Arum is Manny's boss but it's on Manny to tell his boss who he wants to fight next. Like Oscar said, it's time that Manny be more assertive in selecting who he fights.
If Manny wants to fight Floyd Mayweather, it's time he step up and take the fight. Manny already said "LET'S GET IT ON" during the interview after his 3rd fight with Marquez in regards to fighting Mayweather.
It's Bob Arum that his holding this fight up!
Floyd is ready
Manny is ready
Team Floyd is ready to negotiate
Team Manny is still playing around (talking about a 4th fight with Marquez, talking about Floyd negotiating too early, now they're talking about Floyd doesn't want Golden Boy involved????)!!
Just because we "defend" Mayweather doesn't mean we're riding his nuts. We're just calling it like we see it....
Mayweather is his own boss and "he" decides who he fights.
Bob Arum is Manny's boss but it's on Manny to tell his boss who he wants to fight next. Like Oscar said, it's time that Manny be more assertive in selecting who he fights.
If Manny wants to fight Floyd Mayweather, it's time he step up and take the fight. Manny already said "LET'S GET IT ON" during the interview after his 3rd fight with Marquez in regards to fighting Mayweather.
It's Bob Arum that his holding this fight up!
Floyd is ready
Manny is ready
Team Floyd is ready to negotiate
Team Manny is still playing around (talking about a 4th fight with Marquez, talking about Floyd negotiating too early, now they're talking about Floyd doesn't want Golden Boy involved????)!!
^^pac, roach, ariza and even koncz are saying floyd. Bob was the one who was talking about another marquez match, but he hasn't mentioned that since immeidately after the the third fight, now he's talking about floyd.
So I think everyone on team pac is looking at floyd next.
Whether or not that's what bob arum wants, that remains to be seen. All I know is that if Bob fucks this up, Pac needs to fire his ass (he should already), bottom line.
So I think everyone on team pac is looking at floyd next.
Whether or not that's what bob arum wants, that remains to be seen. All I know is that if Bob fucks this up, Pac needs to fire his ass (he should already), bottom line.
Retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, the mediator is the guy to listen too. Weinstein is the guy that handled the 1st and only real negotiation. Weinstein made the statement that Top Rank and Manny walked away from the fight because of OSDT. This is the part that the Manny fans seem to not understand. After Manny walked away from the 3rd party mediator there has NEVER been another negotiation. Top Rank has been playing media about making the fight with Mayweather for 2 years now to sell Manny fights against weight drained shot fighters and 38 yr old men.
Now the truth and facts are right infront of the Manny fans, but yet they still making excuses for Manny ducking the fight. Top Rank is again making up fake negotiation to save face and dumb Manny fans are eating it up again.
Koncz showing up to Floyd's gym = Fake negotiation
Arum talking about investor = Fake negotiation
Mayweather and Golden Boy calling the 3rd party judge Daniel Weinstein = Really trying to negotiation a megafight.
How hard is it for people to understand? I have been saying the same things for two years now the proof is infront you.
Now the truth and facts are right infront of the Manny fans, but yet they still making excuses for Manny ducking the fight. Top Rank is again making up fake negotiation to save face and dumb Manny fans are eating it up again.
Koncz showing up to Floyd's gym = Fake negotiation
Arum talking about investor = Fake negotiation
Mayweather and Golden Boy calling the 3rd party judge Daniel Weinstein = Really trying to negotiation a megafight.
How hard is it for people to understand? I have been saying the same things for two years now the proof is infront you.
For the record, a boxing promoter is not a boxer's boss.
I think Bob's absolute hate for Mayweather/Haymon is so deep (and vise versa) that a part of him doesn't want to give them the glory of giving them this mega deal. He should sit back and let Todd work this out, and collect his fat check at the end.
PS Al Haymon is a piece of shit, and a cancer to the sport of boxing.
I think Bob's absolute hate for Mayweather/Haymon is so deep (and vise versa) that a part of him doesn't want to give them the glory of giving them this mega deal. He should sit back and let Todd work this out, and collect his fat check at the end.
PS Al Haymon is a piece of shit, and a cancer to the sport of boxing.