Manny Pacquiao Agrees To Blood Testing, Taunts Mayweather

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MR. CLEEN

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Khan is too long for Pacquiao. I didn't see the loss to Presscott, but I saw Khan against Malinaagi (Not the greatest fight), but it showed me that "if" he uses his height and jab, he will be able to take Manny the distance, if he can keep Manny on the outside of that jab.
You puttin too much time into this Khan talk. First it's a fight that will never happen. I was clearly talking in hypothetics, so you clearly missed that. My first point was he was tall and rangy, but my second post, which I deciced to put in quotes to help you out, shows I was speaking in hypothetics. Again this shit is all conversation. Once Khan learns how to use his height, and range, and fights behind his jab with an effective work rate, he will be able to beat Pacquiao. Will Pac Man stick around long enough for that to happen, I doubt it. I'm clearly just communicating in speculation that Khan will get better as a fighter, similar to how Pacqiuao did when he started off as a one dimensional fighter.

So again, you missed the point. I already agreed that because he has a suspect chin, and gives up his height similar to Paul Williams, he would lose to Pacquiao. Lol. Go back and read my post clearly and stop picking out what you want, trying build a case like cheap unthorough lawyer. lol I clearly didn't miss any of your points. You said if Khan fought Mayweather it would be more competitve,I disagreed. It would be a drawn out ass whoopin, so if that's what you mean by the fight being more competitve then yeah. I think the more competitive fight would be against Pacqiuao. It would be a brawl until Khan gets caught, but he'd get his licks in on Pacqiuao in the process. So I see it differently than you. I think the shorter fight would be more action packed, I think Mayweather wins in a boring easy fight, noncompetitive at that.

Lastly, you're right about Hatton trying to impose his will on Mayweather, but he sure didn't do it with the wreckless abandon like he did against Pacquiao, C'mon son.
 
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You puttin too much time into this Khan talk. I was clearly talking in hypothetics, so you clearly missed that.
No I didn't miss that. I was saying Khan couldn't beat Pac by using his height and jab alone. That will work until he gets caught on the chin then it's lights out. He was able to keep paulie at bay for the most part because Paulie is one of the weakest punchers in modern boxing history.


Again this shit is all conversation. Once Khan learns how to use his height, and range, and fights behind his jab with an effective work rate, he will be able to beat Pacquiao.
this is madness! He can do all that but what happens when he gets his chin cracked? Khan isn't the type of guy to be able to hold off Pac for 12 rounds. You need a fantastic defense to do that and you said it yourself khan doesn't have good D. Your logic does not compute.

Will Pac Man stick around long enough for that to happen, I doubt it.
Unlikely. Looks like Floyd will be Pac's last fight. Roach also trains both Pac and Khan and said it will never happen.

I'm clearly just communicating in speculation that Khan will get better as a fighter, similar to how Pacqiuao did when he started off as a one dimensional fighter.
I think Khan will get better too, I'm a fan of his and won some good money off his last fight. Like I said earlier though you can improve a chin but you can never truly fix a chin. He's going to get KTFO out again sooner later, whether it be against Devon Alexander or Pac or someone else it's going to happen.

So again, you missed the point. I already agreed that because he has a suspect chin, and gives up his height similar to Paul Williams, he would lose to Pacquiao. Lol. Go back and read my post clearly and stop picking out what you want, trying build a case like cheap unthorough lawyer. lol I clearly didn't miss any of your points. You said if Khan fought Mayweather it would be more competitve,I disagreed. It would be a drawn out ass whoopin, so if that's what you mean by the fight being more competitve then yeah. I think the more competitive fight would be against Pacqiuao. It would be a brawl until Khan gets caught, but he'd get his licks in on Pacqiuao in the process. So I see it differently than you. I think the shorter fight would be more action packed, I think Mayweather wins in a boring easy fight, noncompetitive at that.
I don't know man, Khan getting sparked in 2-4 rounds against Pacquiao (kinda simlar to Ricky Hatton) would be far less competitive then Khan winning 3-4 rounds against Floyd and either getting stopped late or going the distance. I don't know maybe I'm weird in that sense but getting destroyed in a couple rounds versus winning rounds and going deep into a fight are totally different.
 

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I guess that's the difference right there, I don't see him getting destroyed like Hatton in 3 or 4 rounds with out getting in some work first. Hatton got outsmarted. Khan would be way too smart to try and bully Pacquiao and would definitely benefit from the sparring they have already done. Of course he'll get his chin tested, but you act like he will get hit by one punch and go down. C'mon son. He'll definitely get caught at some point, but it would be a good fight up til that point. Not like Hatton at at all. That's my view of it

Khan has been getting hand picked opponents and this is why he is lower rated to me than Bradley and Alexander so why you focused on my comments about Khan is questionable anyway. I'm assuming as Khan gets better, he also corrects his defense flaws. Part of that is Fighting tall so not to be in a shorter fighters range to begin with. So if he does everything I mentioned on top of improving his D, Pac would lose. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. the guy has one loss, and it was a bad one at that, but he will find a way to protect his chin or he'll get knocked the fuck out at some point and we won't be talking about Khan anymore regardless. I can't say I'm over impressed with the guy, and he was fighting Malinaagi (Edward Featherhands). He beats Bradley or Alexander head up, then I'm paying more attention to the guy.
 
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I spoke on all three guys at 140 but the discussion naturally progressed in that direction.

Anyways, it's kind of all pointless as all those fights are unlikely since Pac will retire (or so he says), just like it's unlikely Floyd would try to unify 147 (I mean he wouldn't even except Shane's WBA belt). These two superstars are after super fights to end their careers and both have earned that right.
 
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I personally would love to see Floyd destroy Sergio Martinez just so that folks realize how overrated and how much of a runner he is
 

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With that said regarding the super fights, again I say who has the better options if they don't fight. None of the fights at 140 will be considered Super Fights. If Floyd fought Martinez, contrary to your belief, it would get billed as the more Super of the fights. But don't get me wrong, a fight with Margarito is very dangerous for Pacquiao. Margarito is a big dude, who may not pack a wallop in one punch (especially now that his wraps have been exposed), but he'll be there to be hit and fight. Anybody sees him knocking Margarito out in the early rounds haven't paid attention to the whiskers he has. Margarito may be slow, but he has come from behind in fights (most notably agsainst Cotto, though that is questionable and against Williams, though Paul had too much of a lead)
 
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Floyd doesn't have a super fight other than pac. Floyd vs Martinez would not do more than Floyd vs Shane Mosley, I promise you that. They promoted shane-floyd more than any other fight in history and it did 1.4 million. Martinez is no where near the name of shane mosley. He doesn't even have the fanbase of that of Marquez, who did 1 million buys against Floyd.

They could call it a superfight all they'd like but if Floyd vs Martinez breaks 1 million it would be a big success imo.

I agree Margarito is a big risk for Pacquiao too because that's a big guy fighting at 154 pounds. I reckon that fight would do right around the 1 million mark as well.

I just don't see any fight for either guys doing more than 1.25 million at this point, other than of course fighting themselves.
 

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Super Fight is the wrong phrase. The better of the two options is the correct term. We all know where the biggest money draw is and that is in facing each other. Outside of that, I see Floyd getting close to breaking the million mark and that's even knowing the fact that Martinez is not a household name yet, and I only see Manny doing similar numbers to what he did his last fight. It'll take both of Margaritos and Mannys fan base to get those numbers.
 
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SSOOOOO manny was hospitalized for stomach ulcers?!!! a side affect of ped hgh?!!!!!!! that shit is catchin up to you manny!!!!
 
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SSOOOOO manny was hospitalized for stomach ulcers?!!! a side affect of ped hgh?!!!!!!! that shit is catchin up to you manny!!!!
He's had stomach problems (acid reflux) for years homie, you can google and find articles from years ago. It's nothing new.

Up to 40 million americans have acid reflux, including myself. It's pretty common stuff. Quite the jump you made there.

Now if he had career threatening problems like liver spots or whatever like Brock Lesner, you'd have a strong case.
 
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Floyd calls his own shots not his father. And real legitimate negotiations take time especially since the two sides have negotiated before and failed to come to an agreement. Both sides are gonna have to be sensitive not to cross each other to the point of a failed agreement a second time. Floyd don't have to comment at this point. He's smart enough to let the fans think what they want. Once the deal is made, and the ink is on the contract from both sides, Floyd will do his normal routine. Seems Manny fans know Floyd can't lose eitherway. If he fights Manny, both sides win. If he chooses not to, Manny loses and Floyd goes onto fight an opponent like Martinez and just like with the Mosely fight, people will be intrigued while Manny fans sit around angry because he aint fighting Mayweather. So in reality who needs who? Just askin. Seems like Manny fans whole world will be crushed without that "one" fight, while Mayweather fans could care less and will buy Mayweathers next fight regardless. I think that reason is most Mayweather fans realize Floyd will beat Manny, and the real challenge in that fight is not on Floyd, but for Manny to prove most people wrong. The real oppurtunity in this fight for Manny fans is for Manny to upset Floyd if he can pull it off, not the other way around. Of course I personally think the Manny vs. Floyd fight is the fight to make as Plan A, but we'll have to wait and see
Most Pacquiao fans want to see him fight the best opponents possible, and Mayweather is supposedly that opponent. Floyd fans don't care if it happens or not because they know Manny has the best chance of beating Mayweather and they don't want to see their boy lose his undefeated record. Don't fool yourself.
 
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Mayweather didn't need Pacquiao to begin with. He's a first blallot Hall of Famer regardless if he fights Pacquiao or not. Floyd already proved he could get other dance partners and still make lots of money and have success with PPV numbers minus Pacquiao, so he doesn't need Pacquiao if a worse case scenario happens and they don't fight. Ouside of Mayweather, what other fight will generate much interest for your casual fan? Manny has alot of casual boxing fans, and they only want to see Manny and Floyd meet. And until you hear Floyd speak on whatever demands he's asking for, it's all speculation, and more fuel to the already lit flame, to keep the fans talking about this fight. The more talk, good or bad will lead to more money and probably the biggest PPV in history, so don't read into the nonsense until you hear from Floyd, Al Hayman, Ellerbe or Schaefer.
It's funny how you act like Pacquiao is just some guy who doesn't generate money himself, without Mayweather. There is a REASON this fight would be the biggest PPV fight in history, and it's not just because of Floyd Mayweather. If it were, then Mayweather would be generating that type of money regardless of who he fights.

I shouldn't expect anything less from you, though. All you do is hate on Pacquiao.
 

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Most Pacquiao fans want to see him fight the best opponents possible, and Mayweather is supposedly that opponent. Floyd fans don't care if it happens or not because they know Manny has the best chance of beating Mayweather and they don't want to see their boy lose his undefeated record. Don't fool yourself.
Fatal come on now dog, you're a sharp cat man you know better than that. We might have to hook up and watch this fight together (and maybe put some bread on the table).

After watching how Mayweather handled Manuel and Shane, Pacquiao doesn't stand a snow balls chance in hell against Mayweather. Mayweather is too skilled to lose to Pacquiao. Mayweather makes all of his opponents look bad and he'll make Manny look just as bad as the others. I can't wait to see this fight happen and hear Manny come up with excuses during the interview after he gets his ass whooped. Shane couldn't do anything but shrug his shoulders, Gatti cried, Chico (was knocked down and turned at the sametime by them left hooks Money was landing), Hatton got caught with that check hook and then bounced off of the corner ring post.

Floyd Mayweather is a beast and the best boxer hands down of this generation.
 
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i am a floyd fan and i want to see him fight pacquaio, paul williams, miguel cotto..williams more bcuz he presents a bigger stronger more elusive fighter and longer reach..i wana see how floyd would fair against him..manny bcuz he bein hyped up so much..he is good..but he's smaller than floyd not as fast and mayweather has that reach on him..he picks apart smaller fighters waaay too easily..i think it's be mayweather like the fourth round and he will take every round after that..manny has the boxing skills but unless he has zab judah speed..which he doesn't he won't last long..he's jus too damn small..mayweather is gonna jab jab combination him to death..and manny gets hit too easily..he swings back but floyd will not be n the pocket by then..he's gonna get picked apart

and u check his ulcer..he takin too many supplements..dude is on steroids..if not y is his stomach eatin away at itself..fighters kno..y u think he ducked that..lets keep it real..
 

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At first I didn't think Manny was really on PED's, now he's willing to accept the 14 day cut off, then gets admitted to the hospital? I'm scratching my head now...