L.A high school start running back killed by 18th st gang member good read lil long
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I can't miss you with that.... so they purposely serve their people their food last? And why does it matter how she does her hair and why do they wonder what race she's mixed with? Why can't we just get our food and eat without someone worrying about something that's none of their business.
Black people don't treat mexicans like that when they come to black owned places to eat.
Black people don't treat mexicans like that when they come to black owned places to eat.
thats how people are whether they be mexican/white/black/asian/whatever. i couldn't tell you why u cant just eat ur food without someone worrying about shit thats none of their business but the reality is they even do that shit to their own people. its ignorance. they don't know any better. some people just think brown hairs/eyes, dark brown skin, you're mexican...if you aren't then you are either white/black/asian/whatever. feel me?
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WELL TONE LOC . WHEN 2 PEOPLE KNOW A LANGUAGE AND OTHERS AROUND THEM DONT. THEY GET A LIL RUSH BY TALKING SMACK AROUND THE PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW. ITS VERY ENJOYABLE BY THE WAY.. I DONT KNOW ANOTHER LANGUAGE. BUT I TALK A GRIP OF SHIT AROUND DEF PEOPLE AND ITS FUN...
OH AND I DO SPEAK BAY SLANG THAT DRIVES THESE PEOPLE NUTZ OUT IN AZ.. THEY JUST DONT GET IT
OH AND I DO SPEAK BAY SLANG THAT DRIVES THESE PEOPLE NUTZ OUT IN AZ.. THEY JUST DONT GET IT
LOS ANGELES-- The petition drive to put "Jamiel's Law" on the May 2009 city election ballot is expected to fall short of the required amount of signatures by Friday's deadline, its author said.
The initiative would give Los Angeles police officers the right to arrest undocumented gang members before they commit crimes and needs valid signatures from 73,963 Los Angeles registered voters to qualify for the ballot. "Jamiel's Law" author Walter Moore told City News Service that about 68,000 signatures have been gathered. Moore, an attorney who is running for mayor, is hoping to persuade the City Council to place the measure on the ballot.
"I hope that if they are a few hundred or thousand signatures short, that the members of the City Council will put this on the May ballot any way," Moore said. "They should at least let the people of L.A. vote on it. We've got 68,000 people who would like Jamiel's Law on the ballot."
The council has until Jan. 14 to ask the City Attorney's Office to prepare measures for the ballot. The initiative is named for 17-year-old Jamiel Shaw, a Los Angeles High School football player, who was shot and killed in March, allegedly by Pedro Espinoza, a 19-year-old gang member who was in the country illegally.
Since 1979, the Los Angeles Police Department has operated under Special Order 40, which prevents officers from initiating contact with suspects for the sole purpose of inquiring about their immigration status. The policy was implemented so undocumented residents could report crimes and cooperate with police without fear of being deported.
The text of Jamiel's Law says the police department should develop a policy to "identify, arrest, deport and/or prosecute and imprison gang members who are in the country illegally, without waiting to catch them committing murders or other crimes before enforcing the immigration laws against them."
Moore said the difference between Jamiel's Law and Special Order 40 is whether action is taken before or after a crime has been committed.
"With Jamiel's Law, you can go after a gang member for violating immigration law before the gang member commits some other crime," Moore said. "With Special Order 40, as worded, you can go after a gang member or anyone, actually, for an immigration crime, but only after you catch them committing some additional crime."
The LAPD and American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California both support Special Order 40. At an October hearing held by the Public Safety Committee, ACLU attorney Peter Bibring told members Special Order 40 is needed to keep immigrant communities engaged with police.
LAPD Deputy Chief Sergio Diaz echoed that sentiment.
"Los Angeles police officers do not have the time, nor do they have the expertise, to (apprehend illegal immigrants)," Diaz said. "It may appear to some people that it's very easy to determine who is an illegal alien. It is not. You cannot do that based on clothing, appearance or accent."
The initiative would give Los Angeles police officers the right to arrest undocumented gang members before they commit crimes and needs valid signatures from 73,963 Los Angeles registered voters to qualify for the ballot. "Jamiel's Law" author Walter Moore told City News Service that about 68,000 signatures have been gathered. Moore, an attorney who is running for mayor, is hoping to persuade the City Council to place the measure on the ballot.
"I hope that if they are a few hundred or thousand signatures short, that the members of the City Council will put this on the May ballot any way," Moore said. "They should at least let the people of L.A. vote on it. We've got 68,000 people who would like Jamiel's Law on the ballot."
The council has until Jan. 14 to ask the City Attorney's Office to prepare measures for the ballot. The initiative is named for 17-year-old Jamiel Shaw, a Los Angeles High School football player, who was shot and killed in March, allegedly by Pedro Espinoza, a 19-year-old gang member who was in the country illegally.
Since 1979, the Los Angeles Police Department has operated under Special Order 40, which prevents officers from initiating contact with suspects for the sole purpose of inquiring about their immigration status. The policy was implemented so undocumented residents could report crimes and cooperate with police without fear of being deported.
The text of Jamiel's Law says the police department should develop a policy to "identify, arrest, deport and/or prosecute and imprison gang members who are in the country illegally, without waiting to catch them committing murders or other crimes before enforcing the immigration laws against them."
Moore said the difference between Jamiel's Law and Special Order 40 is whether action is taken before or after a crime has been committed.
"With Jamiel's Law, you can go after a gang member for violating immigration law before the gang member commits some other crime," Moore said. "With Special Order 40, as worded, you can go after a gang member or anyone, actually, for an immigration crime, but only after you catch them committing some additional crime."
The LAPD and American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California both support Special Order 40. At an October hearing held by the Public Safety Committee, ACLU attorney Peter Bibring told members Special Order 40 is needed to keep immigrant communities engaged with police.
LAPD Deputy Chief Sergio Diaz echoed that sentiment.
"Los Angeles police officers do not have the time, nor do they have the expertise, to (apprehend illegal immigrants)," Diaz said. "It may appear to some people that it's very easy to determine who is an illegal alien. It is not. You cannot do that based on clothing, appearance or accent."
^^^IM NOT ILLEGAL IN THIS COUNTRY, BUT THAT'S STRAIGHT BULLSHIT RIGHT THERE... IF HE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE AN IMPACT, JAMIEL SHAW SR. SHOULDA BROUGHT SOMETHING TO THE TABLE CRACKING DOWN ON ALL GANG MEMBERS, INSTEAD OF ONLY A CERTAIN FEW... HE PRETTY MUCH ALIENATED HIMSELF FROM THE LATINO COMMUNITY IN WEST LOS, ESPECIALLY SEEING AS HIS SON WAS PROVEN TO BE INVOLVED IN GANGS, CONTRARY TO WHAT WAS AND HAS BEEN STATED REAPEATEDLY BY JAMIEL SHAW SR... IN THE END, HIS SON WAS ANOTHER UNFORTUNATE CASE OF GANG RELATED HOMICIDE IN THE WEST SIDE OF L.A...
i'm late on this thread....months late...look i'm very aware of black vs brown violence but the truth is, its never affected me...ive never been called a 'mayate' to my face and ive had pretty good friendships with mexicans, puerto ricans, cubans, haitians, colombians, dominicans, brazillians and everyone fuckin' else even close to spanish speaking. business relationships, friendships where we kick it. as a matter of fact there mothers at a young age accepted me into their houses as their children, i ate with them and everything. i grew up with mexicans in san diego. so i don't wanna be grouped into that shit because im half creole and we're aware of our influence within spanish countries and their influence in us, and ive always respected and understood the close proximity and never had an issue cuz i always showed respect. regardless of all that like i said i dont have and never had any issues with spanish people. i might make a joke but if anyone who called me a 'mayate' took a joke serious thats they issue and thats cool. its the internet anyway. all i know is it dosent happen in real life and i got close folks.
black and brown tension is real but i think people underestimate black and brown unity, im not a gangbanger so i can have crip and blood friends, surenos and nortenos, it kinda sucks if you alienated yourself to ever be a target of anyone. all my fights, have never been with anyone of spanish descent. ive pulled a knife on a mexican guy once, but thats an isolated incident that has waaay more to do with some personal shit than color tension.
black and brown tension is real but i think people underestimate black and brown unity, im not a gangbanger so i can have crip and blood friends, surenos and nortenos, it kinda sucks if you alienated yourself to ever be a target of anyone. all my fights, have never been with anyone of spanish descent. ive pulled a knife on a mexican guy once, but thats an isolated incident that has waaay more to do with some personal shit than color tension.