Is E Dawg Racist

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This has become a merry-go-round of bullshit.

D-Sane, there is no need to shut the thread down. The only vicious shots were toward me and my black dick fetish, and we all know that women can get bashed left and right on the siccness with no recourse.

I've said my piece, and people are still blaming me for speaking the truth about shit instead of just following the crowd. Because I speak what I believe, I have been said to be "stuffed with black dick" so much I think I'm black, told I have an "identity crisis" and said to have a chip on my shoulder.

If you are not all racists, why does it matter what color I am? Aren't I allowed to speak on the struggle as I see it? I am not so defensive and dense to think that just because I have Caucasian blood I should bear witness and stand by white racist ideals.

Seriously, for all of you naysayers.....ignorance is bliss. You wouldn't be able to handle the responsibility of enlightenment anyway. The truth hurts.
 
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Hilltop Hound said:
It may not have been labeled Africa but it is the exact same locale.
No, it was not in the same physical location by a long shot and this isn't exactly some big secret either.

I've seen blacks have albino and very bright children but I still have yet to see two pale people produce a dark brown skin child. Something like that is so rare that it would definitely make TV (especially in this age of the TALK SHOW). If that were possible then interacial children that derive from a pale human and a dark brown human could come out as dark, if not darker than the dark parent. You don't see this either.
It's not common but it's also not as rare as you think. And yes, the media has covered such events. Maybe you arn't aware of this but genes can be present but dormant. Those same genes can be passed on down several generations and still remain dormant and then out of no where become active. Like I have already said, go do some homework. Do some of your own research and look into it. The information is not hard to find but you are the one who needs to do the homework so when you come here to argue with people, you arn't arguing merely your opinions and/or misconceptions of science.
 
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Hilltop Hound said:
Again you talking out the side of your neck. I didn't deny any of this. However, no race has been the slave for such a long period (400 years). Not one antique, bible, or any other form of data states this "so-called" fact that is spewing from your mouth.
I'm talking out of the side of my neck but you don't deny anything I've stated huh? The very first comment you make is a contradiction. Let me get this straight, you think no race besides blacks have been enslaved longer than 400 years right? I think someone needs to do a little more homework. Specifically, chinese history would be a great place for you to start.

Let's stick with the real subjects, my take:
E-Dawg aint racist. Blacks have been wronged in the past and this is no excuse for any wrongs blacks have done. No White person knows what it is like to be black. Half of you defensive guys that are attacking my statements do have racist perceptions (on certain issues) and I can honestly say that yall don't even know it. And blacks are the original man, whether you like or not, deal with it. However, this means nothing. This gives us no power over any race.
Now if you still mad about that, you and anyone else has personal issues.
It's kind of pointless to even discuss whether or not E-Dawg is a racist when people can't even agree on what the definition of racism is to begin with! If E-Dawg is racist, I don't know why he wanted Bart to produce nearly his entire album.

Anyways... This thread is somewhat boring. It's disappointing to see that some people are so willing to run their gums almost non-stop about these subjects but not be very knowledgable about the facts and the history that is related (whether it be evolutionary, geological, physical, whatever)..
 
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tadou said:
You left out the footnote.....oh, and your own opinion too...you left that out as well. Thanks for typing out a history book page for us, though. Even though you left out key phrases like "were believed to be deserts" or "were thought to have been tropical"....good shit!
Those phrases wern't used because they would have made the statements inaccurate. There are a lot of things that 'were thought to be' only a few years ago that have since been proven by dedicate research. Why do you think they dig deep down into the ground and take core samples? Why do you think they analyze petrified animal shit? Why do you think they do all the field-research they do? Because it gives definitive answers to the things that are 'thought to be'.

You cant 'prove' time with the use of DNA. No computer is that smart yet.....you big ole genius, you.
I guess you think you said something slick here. No, you can't measure exact dates in time thru analyzing DNA but it can give you a pretty accurate timeline. "you big ole genius, you."

Uh, fact? What? did i miss something? If this is fact, why dont they teach it in school? You know why? Because its a THEORY, not a FACT...even if its a widely-accepted theory, it is STILL THAT--a THEORY. Even if 10 billion scientists belived it...unless one of them was 10 billion years old...ITS A THEORY!!
You don't have to have lived in prehistoric times to discover facts about the world and stuff in it. I won't even waste my time getting into this because it's obvious from your.....comment, that you arn't very educated on the subject.

I think what they said was that 2 black people can make a white baby. So stop philosophically BITCHING, especially when it turns out to be COMPLETELY USELESS rhetoric.

In America...in terms of duration...YES, BOTH ARE INDEED TRUE!!!

Overall, you get a 3 for your post...out of 100. thanks for trying! I hope you enjoyed your stay! We hope to see you back soon.....good luck.....batteries not included...shipping extra...thats about it.
Save your words for when you actually have a point. And please try to make it one that's worth reading.
 
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Sick Wid It: since you OBVIOUSLY (not to mention BLATANTLY) missed my pointing out of you using the words "proven" and "fact", then ill say it like this: %99.9 OF THEORIES FROM 5+ BILLION YEARS AGO ***CANNOT*** BE PROVEN...NOTHING short of a 5 billion year old time-encapsulated 1000-DVD set of history books will change that!!

To rely on DNA evidence as your only 'accurate' idea of what habitat, environment, characteristics, etc was like 5 billion years ago is to be VERY one-dimensional, and basic.

Basically---and this goes for EVERYONE in this thread---no matter WHAT you say, or HOW MUCH i know about it, i WILL call you out on things if you say them in an inaccurate method.....and you have said some VERY inaccurate things. Lucky for you, you arent being labeled a racist for YOUR errors! :classic:
 
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Originally posted by Sick Wid It Those phrases wern't used because they would have made the statements inaccurate. There are a lot of things that 'were thought to be' only a few years ago that have since been proven by dedicate research. Why do you think they dig deep down into the ground and take core samples? Why do you think they analyze petrified animal shit? Why do you think they do all the field-research they do? Because it gives definitive answers to the things that are 'thought to be'.
So let I get this straight: Scientists still cant agree on how humans lived 10 thousand years ago, but EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM would be 'incorrect' if they disagreed with everything you just listed to be 'definitive' in your previous statements about 10 billion years ago? 95% of what you said were, AT BEST, slight exaggerations. NOTHING more, and NOTHING 'proven'.

I guess you think you said something slick here. No, you can't measure exact dates in time thru analyzing DNA but it can give you a pretty accurate timeline. "you big ole genius, you."

You don't have to have lived in prehistoric times to discover facts about the world and stuff in it. I won't even waste my time getting into this because it's obvious from your.....comment, that you arn't very educated on the subject.
"Pretty accurate" does not and will not EVER cut it in the scientific community...Sci
means KNOWLEDGE, not 'pretty accurate guesses.' Here's a few words of advice: DONT MESS WITH PHILOLOGISTS! I know the in-depth meaning of nearly every word you use, so if you attempt to 'pull a fast one', i WILL notice!

You wanna speak about education? Go take a few upper level english classes, and learn how to express yourself, with a particular focus on philosophical forums frequented by those dependant on philological rationale and logic-based discussion....and pick up a dictionary/thesaurus too, because your vocabulary is lacking.
 
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Tadou...as hard as you try, you still havn't managed to post anything of any real interest. Not only is it obvious that you are still a youngster mentally (and probably in age as well) but also certainly not a student of higher learning. Without question theres a huge difference between what science has proven about the past and what you think you know about it. I think I'll trust the experts in that field and refer to you for comedic purposes.

Judging by the posts I've read on here that are directed towards you, I think it's safe to say......"you are the weakest link, goodbye".
 
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Sergeant Hustle said:
This has become a merry-go-round of bullshit.

D-Sane, there is no need to shut the thread down. The only vicious shots were toward me and my black dick fetish, and we all know that women can get bashed left and right on the siccness with no recourse.

I've said my piece, and people are still blaming me for speaking the truth about shit instead of just following the crowd. Because I speak what I believe, I have been said to be "stuffed with black dick" so much I think I'm black, told I have an "identity crisis" and said to have a chip on my shoulder.

If you are not all racists, why does it matter what color I am? Aren't I allowed to speak on the struggle as I see it? I am not so defensive and dense to think that just because I have Caucasian blood I should bear witness and stand by white racist ideals.

i don't stand by racist ideas......just because i focus on positive and not so much on negative....i'm not denying that racism exists,just not dwelling on it.....and i've already attempted to basically apologize,maybe more like reconcile(yeah i like that word better)about what i said about the black dicks stuffed in you statement....you must've not seen it in your futile attempt to make everyone in here feel like racists.Shit now D.O.G. comes REAL about his shit,and i do agree with the majority of things both of you say..but he isn't an outsider on the subject lookin' in like you.It's not wrong to understand and feel for what happened to blacks and still happens,it's wrong to PRETEND that you are black and know a black mans' life is like.With that first statement i saw up on here from you''if you were black,than you'd hate white people too''....Why is this not a racist statement?Why is it okay for a person whos' non-black to say that black people SHOULD hate white people?And basically your assuming they all do with that statement'''if you spent a day as a black man,you'd hate white people too'''.....sounds like stereotyping to me?Doesn't matter if ''IF'' was in there cause your assuming one of us non-black people got to spend a day as a black man,we would ultimatley hate whites.Is this really one dimensional thinking or a str8 up good argument that we can be civilized and you can explain how that wasn't prejudice and un-wittingly in your part,a racist stereotypical thing to say?
 
I remember Mr. DOG talking about how black people get killed in the streets by police officers all the time...

http://www.msnbc.com/local/pisea/84554.asp

Is this an instance of Racism, or did the guy get what he deserved? The bottom line from my perspective here is that the police officers life was being threatened... I can understand the guy getting pissed off because the off duty cop was butting his nose into a private conversation but pulling out a Glock... that was STUPID.
 
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A lot of people do a lot of stupid shit that results in unfavorable reactions from others. Unfortunately a lot of those people want to make excuses for their behavior. Point the finger at other people. Point the finger at society. Point the finger at everyone but themselves.

There are far more people who have it rough than have it easy no matter what race you are talking about. Having a hard life doesn't justify very much in my mind. I could still be out in the streets tearin it up and doin' no good but somewhere down the line I grew up and learned how to accept responsibility for my actions and how they affect my life (ie: I learned how to point the finger at myself before others).

Life is hard and unfair for most of us. Tell me something I don't know and make sure it doesn't include excuses.
 

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Mo-X,Nobody witnessed the event,so who's to say?

I only joined this discussion because Mr.Villian and Deluzional were being labled as racists,and I felt that was totally unfair,as it was taking shots at SGT. Huss.also

Nobody will win this debate.People choose what parts of History,and Science they want to believe in.Several valid points were made on both sides,but people have "spun" there way right outta those discussions,moving on to posts of the past.Nobody will win,I am done.

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Sick Wid It: you are a weak-minded, uninteresting person who relies on science rather than his own intuition. Thus, you attack someone like myself who, OBVIOUSLY, would make a 100x better politician/philosopher/statesman/lawyer than you could even DREAM of becoming.

that is all.
 
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ignorance wins this one hands down.

back to my original statement: try being black for a day or two and you'll be singing a different tune. you cannot and will not understand unless you can go outside of yourself and attempt to see life through someone else's experience. when you do that, you show compassion and understanding for other human beings instead of reasoning only thru defensive emotions. perhaps most of you are younger and haven't reached that stage in life where you no longer accept the status quo and you search for what's real.
 
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MR.VILLAIN said:
i'm not denying that racism exists,just not dwelling on it
YOU HAVE THE LUXURY TO NOT HAVE TO DWELL ON IT.

.....and i've already attempted to basically apologize,maybe more like reconcile(yeah i like that word better)about what i said about the black dicks stuffed in you statement....you must've not seen it in your futile attempt to make everyone in here feel like racists
IF YOU FEEL LIKE A RACIST, THAT'S ON YOU.

Shit now D.O.G. comes REAL about his shit,and i do agree with the majority of things both of you say..but he isn't an outsider on the subject lookin' in like you.It's not wrong to understand and feel for what happened to blacks and still happens,it's wrong to PRETEND that you are black and know a black mans' life is like
I'M NOT PRETENDING I AM BLACK. I IDENTIFY WITH THE BLACK STRUGGLE BECAUSE I AM A WOMAN AND HAVE MY OWN STRUGGLE TO CONTEND WITH. I CAN RELATE TO WHOEVER I CHOOSE TO RELATE TO, AND THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME A POSER.

With that first statement i saw up on here from you''if you were black,than you'd hate white people too''....Why is this not a racist statement?
I WAS ACTUALLY BEING FACETIOUS WHEN I SAID THAT, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IF YOU WERE BLACK FOR A DAY, YOU WOULDN'T BE SO QUICK TO DISMISS THE RAMIFICATIONS OF BEING BLACK IN AMERICA.

Why is it okay for a person whos' non-black to say that black people SHOULD hate white people?
BECAUSE I AM GROWN AND I CAN SAY WHAT I LIKE. I SPEAK REAL WORDS ABOUT REAL SUBJECTS.

And basically your assuming they all do with that statement'''if you spent a day as a black man,you'd hate white people too'''.....sounds like stereotyping to me?
NOT REALLY. IT'S TRUE IN MANY CASES. IT'S NOT EASY TO DEAL WITH WHITE PEOPLE ON A DAILY BASIS. I'M SURE THE COMMENTS "CAN I TOUCH YOUR HAIR", "DO YOU PLAY BASKETBALL", "CAN YOU RAP", "YOU SHOULD BE A BOXER", "HEY NIGGER", "PLEASE DON'T ROB ME" AND "STAY AWAY FROM MY DAUGHTER" PROBABLY GET OLD AFTER AWHILE. WHITE PEOPLE ARE OK FOR AWHILE, THEN THEY USUALLY END UP SAYING SOME RACIST SHIT ON ACCIDENT LIKE "COME HERE, BOY!" I SAW THAT SHIT HAPPEN ONE TIME. DAMN NEAR FELL OFF MY CHAIR.
 
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