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Not at all. I'm curious to hear the position from people on the subject and it's a question that I've never heard answered by an athiest or non-believer so I'm curious to hear what they/y'all think about it. It does prove a point to an extent but there wasn't any malintent. It was a serious question that people keep avoiding.
I think it's hard to make a comment on something as broad as "demonic possession". It could be mental illness, it could be peoples perceptions. I've heard stories of parents being charged with child abuse for trying to exorcise out the demons from their child's body resulting in dehydration/malnutrition, when really it was because the child was just acting out, etc. I've also read an article about a tribe that would consider members possessed by demons because of certain physical ailments, which turned out to be the actual symptoms of some sort of disease.
I would say to explain demonic possession you would have to do so on a case to case basis, but I would never attribute it to actual demonic possessions.
I would say to explain demonic possession you would have to do so on a case to case basis, but I would never attribute it to actual demonic possessions.
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if thats where you get your wisdom from, i dont want anything to do with your ideas. the bible is the only truth i need in life
fact: louis ck was convicted of lewd contact with a minor shortly after
fact: louis ck is being investigated for possible peeping tom activities
if thats where you get your wisdom from, i dont want anything to do with your ideas. the bible is the only truth i need in life
I know some people who practice a certain ma who involve certain rituals in their training from time to time.
In which they call upon a spirit for example a deceased teacher to enter their body.
That way the spirit or soul or what you want to call it from the deceased teacher will take control over the body and move in the same way he would have done if he was alive.
You can tell the difference when a body moves like that if it is possessed or not.
(everybody moves different even in the same style).
I've heard this from several people around me, all very credible. And I know someone who participate in this. Although I've never seen it myself.
Also this would come with a price to pay though.
But these "spirits" don't accept money. So if you do this you will probably grow old a lonesome man, some of your closed loved ones will fall terminally ill or get in to an accident or something along the lines of that.
They still practice this in parts of Indonesia.
But on demon possessions, I wouldn't really know.
In which they call upon a spirit for example a deceased teacher to enter their body.
That way the spirit or soul or what you want to call it from the deceased teacher will take control over the body and move in the same way he would have done if he was alive.
You can tell the difference when a body moves like that if it is possessed or not.
(everybody moves different even in the same style).
I've heard this from several people around me, all very credible. And I know someone who participate in this. Although I've never seen it myself.
Also this would come with a price to pay though.
But these "spirits" don't accept money. So if you do this you will probably grow old a lonesome man, some of your closed loved ones will fall terminally ill or get in to an accident or something along the lines of that.
They still practice this in parts of Indonesia.
But on demon possessions, I wouldn't really know.
I think a lot of demon possession is straight up b.s. I think there have been tons of cases where it's totally legit though too. Similar to the exorcist where it was a little girl that all of the sudden had strength way beyond what a girl her size should have, voice deeper than barry white and immediately freaked out when a pastor (not dressed in pastors clothing or anything) stepped in the room. Anyone I've talked to that has witnessed something like it says you'll never want to have anything to do with it. It's not all that common but anyone I know that has seen it says it was all the way real.
I was just curious to hear some people's opinions on it.
The closest thing I've ever seen to it that it may have been real was on that documentary for that guy steve o from jackass. He was totally outta control for months and they had it all on film. he was doing a lot of drugs but he kept referring to himself as "we" and his voice was noticeably different and he says he doesn't have any real recollection of that period in his life. Understandably so because he was drugged up but that's the only time I've seen something resembling someone looking demon possessed. Can't say for sure though
I was just curious to hear some people's opinions on it.
The closest thing I've ever seen to it that it may have been real was on that documentary for that guy steve o from jackass. He was totally outta control for months and they had it all on film. he was doing a lot of drugs but he kept referring to himself as "we" and his voice was noticeably different and he says he doesn't have any real recollection of that period in his life. Understandably so because he was drugged up but that's the only time I've seen something resembling someone looking demon possessed. Can't say for sure though
None of that gives any support to an argument for the existence of a God.
It seems the basis of your entire argument for God's existence is simply if there are things we cannot explain, than that is proof of a God - which is faulty logic at best.
If we cannot explain something, it's proof we cannot explain something, nothing more nothing less.
Logic adhering to God and vice versa is inconsequential to the point that it is illogical, inaccurate, flawed, and irrelevant to use the absence of an explanation as evidence for a God.
The absence of an explanation is no more evidence of the existence of a God than the presence of an explanation is evidence of the absence of a God.