If Floyd is on "vacation", who should Pacquiao fight next?

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They're going to continue to say that Berto isn't worthy enough even though he's currently a champ.
Do you know who the other champs are at 147 tony? Jan Zaveck (IBF) and Vyacheslav Senchenko (WBA) who is undefeated. Should Pacquiao fight Senchenko because he's a champion and undefeated too?

How much credit would you give pacquiao for beating undefeated Vyacheslav Senchenko? lol it's the same shit. Him and berto have like the same resumes.
 
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If he beats Berto I would say good job Manny you beat the shit out of a prime undefeated fighter. The below article is the reason why Mayweather and all of the Top Rank fighters are not fighting. So please shut up about the Mayweather ducking bullshit.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382

Pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. rejected promoter Bob Arum's $8 million offer to fight welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito, and he instead exercised a provision in his contract to buy Arum out and become a promotional free agent, Arum told ESPN.com on Monday.

According to Arum, Mayweather turned down the career-best purse to meet Margarito on Aug. 12 on HBO Pay-Per-View, instead opting for free agency by buying Arum out of their deal for $750,000.

"I did hear from him," Arum said of Mayweather. "He decided not to fight this summer. I made him a tremendous offer. I think Margarito is the riskiest fight for him of anyone out there."

Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.

"Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.

"We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd's next fight, that's the direction he will move in."

With Aug. 12 no longer set aside for a Mayweather fight, Arum said he will use the date to feature one of his other stars, heavyweight titlist Hasim Rahman, in a mandatory title defense against Oleg Maskaev on HBO PPV.

That bout, a rematch of Maskaev's 1999 knockout victory, took on greater significance last weekend in the wake of Wladimir Klitschko's title-winning knockout of Chris Byrd in Germany.

The reason: Among the four recognized heavyweight title holders, Klitschko became the third from a former Soviet republic to beat an American to win a belt, leaving Rahman as the lone American heavyweight champion and Maskaev poised to give Eastern Europe a sweep of the titles in boxing's marquee division.

Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.

"We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."

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The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."
Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension]that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.

Instead, Arum is turning his attention to the Rahman-Maskaev fight.

Arum said that he and Maskaev representative Dennis Rappaport are about $300,000 apart on making a deal. If they don't finalize terms, the WBC will hold a purse bid May 1 in Mexico City.

But Arum is confident they will make the deal.

"We're very close," he said. "It will take another day to work it out."

Arum said he is already making arrangements to announce the fight at a news conference in New York on May 10. He added that the fight would take place at either Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., or at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas.

Arum said Margarito could wind up on the Rahman-Maskaev card in the co-feature.

"But it's tentative," Arum said. "If Mayweather decides to fight in September or October, and Margarito could still be a candidate, I want him to be flexible."

Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for ESPN.com.
 

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So Floyd was ready to fight Cotto (while undefeated) but Bob couldn't up the guarantee... Wow, Arum just wanted Floyd to fight Margarito and Margarito only.

So Floyd did the right thing by buying his contract out so he could decide who he wants to fight instead of being controlled by Arum.

Arum is dirty!! He didn't want Mayweather to fight De La Hoya because he (Arum) wouldn't have gotten enough money.
 
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See Tony I have to come with the facts to show people the real. Top Rank hates Mayweather because just like DLH, he started making the big money after he left Top Rank. No ducking just business people. Now I don't ever want to hear about Mayweather ducking anyone Pac-Man fans.
 
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that article shows that floyd passed on margarito because he had a "bruise" on his hand. doesn't talk about cotto that was pre-oscar, I'm talking about after oscar he had opportunities to fight cotto everyone and their mama wanted him to fight cotto but he retired
 
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@Bigface, the Manny Pacquiao fans (excluding 206) on here are being exposed as hypocrites. Pac's camp is doing what the Floyd critics have said Floyd does. Floyd fought a Prime Corrales when he was undefeated. Floyd fought an undefeated Ricky Hatton when he too was undefeated.

Who is Manny Pacquiao fighting? The same circle of losers. Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and now possibly Shane.

They're going to continue to say that Berto isn't worthy enough even though he's currently a champ.
lol at you consistently using the Hatton fight as like its some kinda marquee fight for either fighters. hatton was exposed and is now blowing coke of some skanks bum in south london somewhere...completely irrelevant.


how come floyd ain't out fighting anyone is what i want to know?
 
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Did you not read the article? Top Rank did not and will not to this day pay him the money he wants to fight any of Arum's Top Rank fighters. If Bob Arum shows Mayweather the money and stop playing his media games maybe a fight can be made with one his bum ass fighters. LOL.. Mayweather ducking Cotto. That's comedy I'm sure Mayweather was so scared of Cotto after watching him getting rocked by Judah and running from Mosley in the last four rounds of there fight both fights in 2007. I'm so sure Mayweather was so scared of Maragrito slow no defense having ass getting beating up by Paul Williams in 2007. While Mayweather was beat up DLH and KO'ed Hatton in 2007. Come on now really.. Cotto and Maragrito are taylor made for Mayweather to counter and pop shot all night.
 
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LOL.. Pac-Man fans are so funny. So beating up already shot fighters is the thing to do? Hatton was undefeated and he won the WBC 147lb belts and was the champion at 140lb. So yes Mayweather KO'ing a prime Hatton means more to me then Manny beating up on a shot Maragrito and a damaged Cotto.
 
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^^yep, there goes with the floyd is so good he doesn't have to fight any of the top guys excuse again. Margarito, Cotto, etc. #1 fantasy fighter of all time. Would have could have.

the point people have been making for years is he isn't fighting these guys.

anyways, enough with the back and forth. Let's talk about floyd when he gets back in the ring, until then, I don't want to hear about how he COULD have beat so and so, or how he COULD have done this or that. That's his entire career for the most part is a could have.
 
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LOL.. Pac-Man fans are so funny. So beating up already shot fighters is the thing to do? Hatton was undefeated and he won the WBC 147lb belts and was the champion at 140lb. So yes Mayweather KO'ing a prime Hatton means more to me then Manny beating up on a shot Maragrito and a damaged Cotto.
hatton wasn't champion at 147, he briefly went to 147 got his ass kicked by Collazo but narrowly managed to win some paper title, vacated quick as shit because he realized he was too small and went back to 140 pounds where he belonged and fought there. Until floyd offered him a fight, of course.

talking to you is like a broken record. here we go with calling cotto shot again. yawn.

and floyd outweighing hatton is more impressive then pac being outweighed by 20 pounds? ok
 
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So I show facts on why Mayweather hasn't fought any of the so-called fighters he was ducking and now the Pac-Man fans are mad. But Pac-Man can duck and dodge everyone until there shot to shit and it's cool? I hope old man Mosley gives him a Maragrito beating if they fight.
 

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Pacquiao fans are proving they're prejudiced. They continue to down Floyd's accomplishments while hyping up Pacquiao's, even though Pacquiao handicapps and then beats up on shot fighters.
 
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biface stop saying "pacman fans" you're talking to me, a single person.

What fact's are you talking about? As stated you provided an article that states Floyd mayweather passed on Margarito because of a bruise on his hand. Not very convincing comrade.

As for cotto you've said nothing other than Floyd could have beat him and floyd shouldn't be scared of him. Ok, that proves nothing. My point was there was a huge demand from the public for a cotto-floyd fight but floyd retired instead. I don't care if floyd could have beat him or not the point is he didn't fight any top ranked welterweights at the time. but really I don't care and we've been over this
 
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I will pick a prime Hatton over the shot punching bags of Maragrito and Cotto. Mayweather and Hatton are the same size stop it with that crap. Go watch the Maragrito vs Cotto,the Cottley vs Cotto fight and then tell me dude is not shot before he fought Manny. Stop it 2-0-Sixx I proved your whole Mayweather is ducking bs wrong with facts. Yes, for the last time Cotto and Maragrito are shot fighters.
 
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Stop it 2-0-Sixx I proved your whole Mayweather is ducking bs wrong with facts.
LOL your facts you provided was a quote that Floyd had a bruise on his hand!!!!! bwahahahaha

So you want Mayweather to fight DLH for $25 miilion, Hatton for $40 million, and then Cotto for $8million? Wow, now that's good business.
That's not including PPV revenue nor at gate, genius. Anyways, floyd got a whopping $0.00 for fighting nobody instead of Cotto.

Floyd would have got around $25 million against Cotto.