Homosexuality: Mental Illness or God's creation?

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FOR MIggIDY AND L-MAC-A-DOCIOUS,
I'M gONNA TELL YOU WHAT gANgSTA PAT SAID WAY BAK IN 90'-91 IN ONE OF HIS SONgS:
IT DOESN'T MAKE ME A FAg CAUSE I'M gETTIN' MY DIK SUCCED/
A FAggET IS A NIggA BENDIN' OVER TO gET FUCCED---gANgSTA PAT

WITH THAT SAID, A HOMOSEXUAL IS ONE WHO "VOLUNTARILY" PARTAKES IN SEX WITH THE SAME SEX AND PSYCOLOgICALLY THINKS THAT WAY.
 

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J FUNK,
YOU STRESSED, "I'm lost? nah u just dont like the fact that i showed something extremely different from your way of thinking."

IT AIN'T THE FACT THAT I DON'T LIKE IT, BUT YOUR LOgIC AND REASONIN' SEEM CLOUDED.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Im tryin to show ur dumbass that youre only anti-homosexual because thats what youve been taught to be."

FIFTY FIRST OF ALL,
DON'T YOU EVA COME AT ME LIKE I'M SOME KIND OF PUNK AND CAN TALK TO ME N-E KIND OF WAY. I NEVA CALLED YOU OUT YOUR NAME SO WHY YOU gOT TO CALL ME A DUMBASS?
XNDLY,
I'M PROUD TO BE WHO I AM AND HOW I WAS TAUgHT. BUT AFTER I WAS TAUgHT, I SEEN FOR MYSELF WHY I WAS TAUgHT HOW I WAS TAUgHT AND AgREE WITH IT 100%.


THEN YOU STRESSED, "My point was that the people of this tribe saw absolutely nothing wrong with what they were doing, it was a tradition passed down for generations and wasn't viewed as sexual, rather a traditional obligation."

HOW YOU KNOW THEY DIDN'T ARgUE WITHIN THE TRIBE OF THAT ACT OR IF IT EVEN EXISTS? DID YOU KNOW HOW THAT ACT ORIgINATED FROM IN THAT TRIBE? DO THEY STILL PRACTICE IT? WOULD YOU STEP TO AN ISLANDER AND ENQUIRE OF SUCH?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "What i'm sayin is that what you may view as absolutely sick and twisted and unnatural, may be the opposite for someone else who was never taught to think so."

YOU WOULD SAY SOME SHIT LIKE THAT. YOU THE ONE THAT THINKS WE INFERIOR TO ANIMALS. BUT WE ALL BORN WITH NATURAL INSTINCTS. AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER, THAT ACT WOULD'VE BEEN QUESTIONED.

BIgANTDNA3,

YOU STRESSED, "You anti -gay guys I hope you have homosexual children so than you could understand that their choice to be with a man or a woman and you trying to dis-influence it has no bearing in their GAY choices or their FEELINGS!"

DON'T TELL ME YOU gAY? YOU SOUND SO PASSIONATE WITH YOUR STATEMENTS. LOL

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Oh yeah! Would you KILL your kid!"

IS THIS A QUESTION? BUT OF COURSE NOT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "CHENEY acknowledges and accepts it and hes a fucking murderer!"

AND YOUR POINT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "So guess what look at the whole picture and don't hate it cuz you don't understand it maybe you need a dick in your mouth!"

JUST CAUSE HAVIN' A DIK IN YOUR MOUTH WORKS FOR YOU DOESN'T MEAN IT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Cuz if you don't eat seafood we don't say hey your not human. All humans eat shrimp we must kill you!"

BAD ANALOgY.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "To you people preoccupied in other peoples lives and your own cesspool of malcontent do you decide to find an easy target and outlet for your bitter existance!"

TOO MANY INFERENCES. JUST KNOW THAT IT'S THE ACT AND NOT THE PERSON ITSELF.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "! Wow i thought we could be smarter than that! God Bless oh and i pray to the god that gave us free choice! Even to be GAY!"

I TAKE IT THAT YOU MADE THAT CHOICE. AND (gOD) DID NOT BLESS YOUR DECISION.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "

THEN YOU STRESSED, "
 

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NEFAR559,
I READ THEM ARTICLES MAN. gOOD READ. AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE ACT ALONE IS gRUESOME, BUT WHEN YOU YOUR MENTALITY gETS ALL WARPED CAUSE OF IT IS EVEN WORSE. I CAN'T EVEN IMAgINE. IT gOES WITH HAVIN' PRIDE AND NOT BEHUMBLIN' YOURSELF. WHAT YOU TALKIN' BOUT IS THE gREEDY MUTHA-FUKAS THAT WANNA MAKE OTHA MEN BITCHES AND THAT'S WRONg. IT'S gREED AND LUST.
 
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L Mac-a-docious said:
My question stemmed from your contention that once a person has sexual contact with a person of the same gender, then that person is gay... insinuating that the physical act is what makes a person gay.
Well I thought people would understand the obvious.
I guess I can never dummy down my threads enough....
 
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Sergeant Hustle said:
I'm NOT a lesbian for the sex. Sex has nothing to do with why I am gay.

i didn't say that meaning that i think did i was asking why everyone just talks about the sex when talking about homosexuality.

n9newunsixx5150 .. i didn't say for them never to have sex or that it wasn't supposed to be sexual. my question was why when talking about homosexuality do people just bring up sex? by you saying that it's just like saying to get with someone and never have sex.
 
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J FUNK,
YOU STRESSED, "I'm lost? nah u just dont like the fact that i showed something extremely different from your way of thinking."

IT AIN'T THE FACT THAT I DON'T LIKE IT, BUT YOUR LOgIC AND REASONIN' SEEM CLOUDED.
My logic is clouded? I'm using past cultures to back up my logic and you use fake books that werent even written durin the time of christ to back urs up.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Im tryin to show ur dumbass that youre only anti-homosexual because thats what youve been taught to be."

FIFTY FIRST OF ALL,
DON'T YOU EVA COME AT ME LIKE I'M SOME KIND OF PUNK AND CAN TALK TO ME N-E KIND OF WAY. I NEVA CALLED YOU OUT YOUR NAME SO WHY YOU gOT TO CALL ME A DUMBASS?
XNDLY,
I'M PROUD TO BE WHO I AM AND HOW I WAS TAUgHT. BUT AFTER I WAS TAUgHT, I SEEN FOR MYSELF WHY I WAS TAUgHT HOW I WAS TAUgHT AND AgREE WITH IT 100%.
Stubborn.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "My point was that the people of this tribe saw absolutely nothing wrong with what they were doing, it was a tradition passed down for generations and wasn't viewed as sexual, rather a traditional obligation."

HOW YOU KNOW THEY DIDN'T ARgUE WITHIN THE TRIBE OF THAT ACT OR IF IT EVEN EXISTS? DID YOU KNOW HOW THAT ACT ORIgINATED FROM IN THAT TRIBE? DO THEY STILL PRACTICE IT? WOULD YOU STEP TO AN ISLANDER AND ENQUIRE OF SUCH?
It was in a National Geographic article, i used it in an 11th grade report about human nature and how gullible we as humans really all are.
Having been exposed to the modern world they don't practice such things anymore, the main reason they did this is that they believed the seed of man was passed from generation to generation by this act of homosexual incest. It really wasn't questioned by the tribespeople, they just accepted it as truth, much like how many people accept the bible as truth because thats what they were taught scince infancy.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "What i'm sayin is that what you may view as absolutely sick and twisted and unnatural, may be the opposite for someone else who was never taught to think so."

YOU WOULD SAY SOME SHIT LIKE THAT. YOU THE ONE THAT THINKS WE INFERIOR TO ANIMALS. BUT WE ALL BORN WITH NATURAL INSTINCTS. AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER, THAT ACT WOULD'VE BEEN QUESTIONED.
Inferior to animals eh? nope i've never said it, nor anything like it.
If the act would have been questioned or thought to be false it would have stopped, because of the fact that they did this ritual because their belief was that thats how the seed of man was passed on from generation to generation, was for the father to physically put the seed in his son.
The only thing that stopped it is that the isolated tribe was shown by outsiders that this act is not what gave the adolescents the ability to reproduce. So EVERY male older than a certain age had taken part in this ritual, until proven otherwise by the outside world.

Of course you would think otherwise of it, because gOD himself would put a stop to such a thing wouldnt he?
 
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It's funny - that tribe is actually in the same region as another tribe that practices oral sex between males. They think of that tribe and their practices as disgusting, and vice versa.
 

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J-FUNK,
YOU STRESSED, "My logic is clouded? I'm using past cultures to back up my logic and you use fake books that werent even written durin the time of christ to back urs up."

YES, YOUR LOgIC IS CLOUDED. AND WHAT FAKE BOOKS HAVE I USED? WHERE HAVE I RECITED FROM A BOOK? YOU TALKIN' BOUT CHRIST AND I HAVEN'T MENTIONED NO MUTHA-FUCCIN' JESUS CHRIST OR NO BIBLE. SO WHERE YOU gETTIN' THAT FROM?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Stubborn."

WHAT YOU MEAN STUBBORN? YOU CALL ME OUT MY NAME LIKE IT AIN'T SHIT. AND I RESPOND LETTIN' YOU KNOW I DON'T gET DOWN LIKE THAT. WHAT SO STUBBORN ABOUT THAT? THEN I LET YOU KNOW THAT I LOOK INTO I WAS TAUgHT AND QUESTION THE VALIDITY OF WHAT I WAS TAUgHT. WHAT'S SO STUBBORN ABOUT THAT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "It was in a National Geographic article, i used it in an 11th grade report about human nature and how gullible we as humans really all are."

YOU gOT A POINT(FINALLY).

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Having been exposed to the modern world they don't practice such things anymore, the main reason they did this is that they believed the seed of man was passed from generation to generation by this act of homosexual incest."

MAN, THAT'S SOME FUCCED UP LOgIC. BUT YOU FIgURE NOWADAYS, BEIN' EXPOSED TO THE MODERN WORLD WOULD HAVE THE REVERSE EFFECT(CONSIDERIN' THE WIDE ACCEPTANCE AND gLAMORIZATION OF HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE MEDIA). BUT THAT SHIT WAS WRONg, CAUSE THEY CEASED TO DO THAT BULLSHIT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "It really wasn't questioned by the tribespeople, they just accepted it as truth, much like how many people accept the bible as truth because thats what they were taught scince infancy."

YOU DON'T KNOW IF N-E-BODY INDIVIDUALLY QUESTIONED IT IN THEY HEAD. UNLIKE THE BIBLE, THAT SHIT IS REPULSIVE AND DOESN'T EXIST TODAY. AND I DOUBT THEY WERE TAUgHT THAT SINCE INFANCY. BUT THAT JUST TELLS YOU ABOUT TRADITIONS OF MEN.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Inferior to animals eh? nope i've never said it, nor anything like it."

DON'T LET ME PULL OUT THAT THREAD WHERE YOU START TALKIN' DOLPHINS BEIN' SMARTER THAN US.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If the act would have been questioned or thought to be false it would have stopped, because of the fact that they did this ritual because their belief was that thats how the seed of man was passed on from generation to generation, was for the father to physically put the seed in his son."

BUT SEE, THE SON NEVA KNEW WHAT HIS DADDY WAS gONNA DO TO HIM. AND BEIN' THE AgRESSOR, POPS WASN'T gONNA STOP. REgARDLESS, YOU ALREADY KNEW SOME WOULD QUESTION IT. WHETHA IT WAS ENOUgH TO STOP IT IS THE QUESTION. IT'S A MATTER OF TRADITION VERSUS PERSONAL BELIEF WITHIN ONESELF.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "The only thing that stopped it is that the isolated tribe was shown by outsiders that this act is not what gave the adolescents the ability to reproduce."

WHAT YEAR WAS THIS?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "So EVERY male older than a certain age had taken part in this ritual, until proven otherwise by the outside world."

THAT'S DISgUSTIN'. IF I WAS PART OF THAT, I WOULD'VE BEAT POPS UP AND BEEN CAST AWAY.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Of course you would think otherwise of it, because gOD himself would put a stop to such a thing wouldnt he?"

THEY DIDN'T KNOW NO BETTER. BUT NOW THAT THEY DO, IS IT DONE N-E-MORE? ALRIgHT THEN. (gOD) WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS.

ALREADY DEAD,

YOU STRESSED, "It's funny - that tribe is actually in the same region as another tribe that practices oral sex between males. They think of that tribe and their practices as disgusting, and vice versa."

SPEAK UP ON IT THEN PLAYA. AND ANSWER MY REBUTTLE.
 
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ALREADY DEAD,
I KNEW ONE DAY SOMEBODY WOULD COME OUT WITH THAT STORY OF THE BOY THEY TRIED TO MAKE A gIRL AND COULDN'T, AND YOU JUST VALIDATIN' MY POINT WITH THAT ONE(I ALSO WATCHED THAT PBS SPECIAL, AND THAT WASN'T ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY BUT A STUDY OF HERMAPHRODITES). THAT PROVED THAT YOU CAN'T CHANgE WHAT NATURE DESIgNED. BUT LET ME ADDRESS EACH STATEMENT ACCORDINgLY, CAUSE YOU SAID A MOUTHFUL.....
I read the case study...never saw the PBS show. Word though PBS is a real ass channel. They spit major knowledge. That's like the adult sesame street and shit. Charlie Rose and Now with Bill Moyers I would never miss that shit. Now I'm at college and we dont get PBS. Some bullshit.

But why wouldnt dude end up attracted to guys? If people done told him to be a girl all his life, you think eventually he wouldn't start to acknowledge it sexually?
A SO CALLED "HOMEBOY" WHO YOU NEVA KNEW WAS gAY DICTATE YOUR FRAME THOUgHT?

lmao@"homeboy"

Nah, "homegirl" fucked up my perception on it though.
SO THE THOUgHT OF PSYCOLOgICALLY TALKIN' TO A gAY DUDE INTRIgUED YOU?

Yea cause I was like "Ima fuck this nigga in his ass". Nah, it's a different viewpoint and part of society that I knew nothin about. I don't agree with Skinheads, or Black Muslims, or Mormons, or however many other groups. But I wouldn't mind choppin it up wit folks, get to know where they comin from, what they believe, etc.
I AIN'T. CUZZ NEVA BUILT UP THE COURAgE TO CONFRONT WOMEN OR DEAL WITH THEM. HIS FAULT, HIS LOSS.
See but that's the thing how you gonna say its about courage man? To this day I will see a woman on the street and say shit if she catches my eye. It ain't hard. I would say more that he had no interest in it. If someone ain't got no interest, "You can lead a horse to water..."
WHO SAID EATIN' PORK IS AgAINST SCRIPTURE? AND I KNOW SCRIPTURE INDICATES. I NEVA SAID I WAS STRICTLY FOLLOWIN' AND ABIDIN' BY SCRIPTURE.
Eatin pork is against scripture. The only difference is most contemporary christians don't go by much of the Old Testament. You see this, though, in Judaeism and Muslims. Christians from overseas countries (usually Asia and India) often don't eat pork either, and a large portion of European Christians take the same stance.
YES, I'M WELL AWARE OF THAT VERSE AND I AM AN ADULTERER. WHAT'S YOUR POINT?
The point is if you go by the Bible, we will all repeatedly sin to no end, and no matter what you do, you fuck up. Bein gay is a fuck up according to the Bible, but so is a million other things we do on the daily. You gon talk about how its wrong on multiple levels.

Well how is a gay dude different from a Christians who cheats compulsively, lies compulsively, or has lustful thoughts? What does a Christian do? He asks forgiveness. Then he sins again. How is this different than a gay dude askin forgiveness, then sinning again?
MAN, ANIMALS HAVE SEX TO PROCREATE, AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF IT IN NATURE. IF AN ANIMAL HAS EXTRA TESTOSERONE THEN YEAH THEY gONNA BELIEVE THEY ATTRACTED TO THE SAME SEX, BUT THAT'S AN IMBALANCE OF A gLAND AND NOT A NORMAL OR NATURAL SITUATION .
I had a dyke dog homie she was always tryin to hump on other females. Damn American media she musta been watchin Girls Gone Wild. Plus they always be talkin about this race of monkeys that be naturally gay and shit. There's a type of monkey where 90 percent of the time all the males are gay and be fuckin around wit each other...lmao.
AND BEASTIALITY DOES EXIST AS WELL AS INCEST. WHAT POINT ARE YOU DEBATIN'?
Bestiality don't exist in animals. They don't fuck with other species. Incest you could probly find a case or two, I'm not sure. The point is homosexuality exists on a wide basis in nature, and the other two don't.
BOTH. THAT'S WHY I STRESSED, "MORALLY IT'S WRONg", "SCRIPTURALLY IT'S WRONg", ETC, ETC.....I'M MAKIN' A DISTINCTION. BUT WHICH EVER WHICH WAY YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, IT'S A PERVERSION.
But see morality all depends on your fuckin viewpoint. You look at some shit from far away it could be a inch tall. You get close up it's a skyscraper. It's the same concept with morality it's all from a vantage point. Well how do we find the morality of a society, or a moral standard, then? People come up with the shit. Society as a whole decides what it values and doesn't. And the type of people with harsh feelings towards gay people is slowly decreasing.
FIFTY FIRST OF ALL,
I'M NOT BRINgIN' SCRIPTURE OR RELIgION INTO THIS MATTER, AND THAT'S WHY I STRESSED, "SCRIPTURALLY THIS, AND MORALLY THAT" TO DISCUSS THIS WITHOUT YOU ATTACCIN' THAT AND AVOIDIN' THE SHIT AT HAND.
I understand that but it seems that scripture is how you make up your morality, and that's why I took it in that direction.
YOU CAN'T BE LUKEWARM. EITHA IT IS OR IT AIN'T.

This is where I make the distinction. I can think something is not normal, but still believe it's some shit that can't be helped. I don't think gay is natural for humans, since male + female = reproduction, but I believe it is just one of the options out there in nature. It's just like a dude with a fucked up leg. It ain't normal, but it's a possibility.

I'm of the firm belief that they will find some kind of gay gene, gay chromosone, whatever. Some shit got fucked up when ya momma was pregnant, and you turn out a faggot playin with barbie dolls.

However I'm not gonna judge that individual based on that.
COUNSEL AND gETTIN' DOWN TO THE NITTY gRITTY ON WHY HE FEELS THE WAY HE FEELS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. THEN I WOULD BRINg OUT THE FACTS AND SEE WHO IS INFLUENCIN' HIM IN HIS DESICION. THEN I WOULD LET HIM KNOW THAT THAT IS THE WRONg DECISION AND DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IN N-E WAY AND WOULD ENCOURAgE HIM TO SEEK KNOWLEDgE AND FIgHT HIS PERVERTED URgE.

This is what they did with my cousin. First his pops kicked him out, then his mom accepted him and put him through counseling and all this. This is a traditional, very religious Mexican family, and his parents took the hardline like "it's a sin, it's wrong" this and that, but then they still took him back in.

Anyways after counseling, and praying, and back and forth, for years and years, they finally just said you know what it's not gonna change, and if God loves all, he loves my son too. My cousin fought with it for years and years, with all his strength, and nothing changed. Dude was a alchoholic, depressed all the time, etc. When his parents finally decided to allow him to accept it, and when he accepted it, is when his life turned around and he started goin places after just years of agony and pain.
I SEEN THAT SAME PBS SPECIAL AND AS I INITIALLY STRESSED, THAT STUDY WAS NOT ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY BUT FURTHER PROVES MY POINT THAT YOU CAN'T FOOL WITH SOMEBODY'S NATURE.
Exactly, so you can't tell somebody to like (women/men). That's decided by them and their biology...not some outside pressure.
 

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ALREADY DEAD,

YOU STRESSED, "I read the case study...never saw the PBS show. Word though PBS is a real ass channel. They spit major knowledge. That's like the adult sesame street and shit. Charlie Rose and Now with Bill Moyers I would never miss that shit. Now I'm at college and we dont get PBS. Some bullshit."

I SEEN IT ALL AND THE SHIT WAS INTERESTIN'. YOU SHOULD TRY TO CATCH IT CAUSE THEY gO MORE IN DEPTH THEN JUST THAT CASE STUDY. AND PBS DON'T SUgAR COAT SHIT EITHA.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "But why wouldnt dude end up attracted to guys?"

CAUSE HE WAS REALLY A gUY AND HE COULDN'T FIgHT HIS NATURE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If people done told him to be a girl all his life, you think eventually he wouldn't start to acknowledge it sexually?"

BUT HIS TESTOSERONE TOLD HIM DIFFERENT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "lmao@"homeboy"

Nah, "homegirl" fucked up my perception on it though."

SO YOU SAYIN' IT WAS A HOMEgIRL THAT WAS gAY OR YOU CALLIN' THAT FOO' YOUR HOMEgIRL NOW? LOL

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Yea cause I was like "Ima fuck this nigga in his ass"."

LOL.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Nah, it's a different viewpoint and part of society that I knew nothin about."

SO WHY YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT IT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I don't agree with Skinheads, or Black Muslims, or Mormons, or however many other groups."

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE, CAUSE YOU DID SAY YOU WOULD BE PART OF THE ARYAN BROTHERHOOD IF YOU WENT TO THE CLINK.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "But I wouldn't mind choppin it up wit folks, get to know where they comin from, what they believe, etc."

WHAT'S THE POINT? HOW IS IT BENEFITTIN' YOUR LIFE?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "See but that's the thing how you gonna say its about courage man?"

CAUSE IT TAKES THAT TO TALK TO SOMEBODY ELSE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU SHY OR QUIET.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "To this day I will see a woman on the street and say shit if she catches my eye. It ain't hard."

BUT NOT EVERYBODY'S LIKE YOU. CONFRONTATION IS ONE OF LIFES THANgS MOST PEOPLE AVOID.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I would say more that he had no interest in it. If someone ain't got no interest, "You can lead a horse to water..."

HOW YOU KNOW WHAT WENT THRU HIS HEAD AT A PRECISE MOMENT? CAUSE COULD OF TOLD YOU N-E-THANg.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Eatin pork is against scripture."

SCRIPTURE PLEASE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "The only difference is most contemporary christians don't go by much of the Old Testament."

IT'S A SHAME. REAL CHRISTIANS VIEW "ALL" OF THE BIBLE AS THE INSPIRED WORD OF (gOD).

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You see this, though, in Judaeism and Muslims. Christians from overseas countries (usually Asia and India) often don't eat pork either, and a large portion of European Christians take the same stance."

I BELIEVE IT'S MORE OF TRADITION, MORE THAN N-E-THANg. IT CAN BE HOW SOMEBODY TRANSLATED A CERTAIN VERSE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "The point is if you go by the Bible, we will all repeatedly sin to no end, and no matter what you do, you fuck up."

I AIN'T gOIN' BY THE BIBLE OR ELSE I'D BE PULLIN' VERSE AFTER VERSE OUT MY ASS. AND I ALREADY KNOW WE ALL SINNIN'.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Bein gay is a fuck up according to the Bible, but so is a million other things we do on the daily. You gon talk about how its wrong on multiple levels."

YES, ACCORDIN' TO THE BIBLE. BUT I'M NOT HERE BASIN' WHAT I BELIEVE STRICTLY BY THE BIBLE, CAUSE I DON'T ADHERE TO IT LIKE I SHOULD.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Well how is a gay dude different from a Christians who cheats compulsively, lies compulsively, or has lustful thoughts?"

IN (gOD)'S EYES, THERE AIN'T NO DIFFERENCE. BUT WE TALKIN' BOUT ME. AND IN MY EYES, THE SHIT JUST NASTY IN EVERY WHICH WAY.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "What does a Christian do? He asks forgiveness. Then he sins again. How is this different than a gay dude askin forgiveness, then sinning again?"

THIS IS A CASE OF WILLFULLY SINNIN', AND MOST PEOPLE THAT CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIANS(ESPECIALLY CATHOLICS) ARE HIPOCRITES. YOU CAN'T DO (gOD)'S WILL LIKE THAT. YOUR REPENTANCE IS NOT gENUINE. SO TO ASSIMILATE A gAY DUDE TO THAT, YOU JUST AKNOWLEDgEIN' THAT gAYS ARE HIPOCRITES TOO. REAL CHRISTIANS KNOW THEY SIN, BUT WHEN THEY REPENT, THEY REALLY STRIVE FOR THAT REPENTANCE AND AVOID MAKIN' THE SAME MISTAKE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I had a dyke dog homie she was always tryin to hump on other females. Damn American media she musta been watchin Girls Gone Wild. Plus they always be talkin about this race of monkeys that be naturally gay and shit. There's a type of monkey where 90 percent of the time all the males are gay and be fuckin around wit each other...lmao."

WHAT KIND OF MONKEY IS THAT? IS THAT SPECIES EVEN SURVIVIN'?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Bestiality don't exist in animals."

NO SHIT. CAUSE ANIMALS ARE THE BEAST.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "They don't fuck with other species."

SOME MIgHT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Incest you could probly find a case or two, I'm not sure. The point is homosexuality exists on a wide basis in nature, and the other two don't."

BRINg OUT YOUR PROOF. SEXUAL DEVIANCES OCCUR ALL OVER MAN. BUT BESTIALITY OCCURS ONLY WHEN HUMANS FUK WITH ANIMALS. INCEST HAS BEEN HAPPENIN' SINCE THE BEgINNIN' OF TIME. LOOK AT SOME OF THEM REDNEK STATES, LOL.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "But see morality all depends on your fuckin viewpoint."

I BEg TO DIFFER.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You look at some shit from far away it could be a inch tall. You get close up it's a skyscraper. It's the same concept with morality it's all from a vantage point."

I BEg TO DIFFER.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Well how do we find the morality of a society, or a moral standard, then?"

IN THIS EXISTENCE, IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO THE HOLY SCRIPTURES CAUSE THAT'S WERE WE gET OUR gUIDELINES FROM.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "People come up with the shit. Society as a whole decides what it values and doesn't. And the type of people with harsh feelings towards gay people is slowly decreasing."

HAVIN' HARSH FEELINgS TOWARDS THEM AIN'T THE POINT. CAUSE WHETHA YOU VIEW THAT PERSON AS HOWEVA, THAT ACT ALONE STILL STANDS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I understand that but it seems that scripture is how you make up your morality, and that's why I took it in that direction."

I DON'T ADHERE TO SCRIPTURE, BUT NONETHELESS, THIS WHOLE SOCIETY AND WORLD, gET THEY gUIDELINES OF MORALITY AS OUTLINED IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "This is where I make the distinction. I can think something is not normal, but still believe it's some shit that can't be helped. I don't think gay is natural for humans, since male + female = reproduction, but I believe it is just one of the options out there in nature."

IT IS AN OPTION AND SOME FOLK gO THAT ROUTE. BUT IT IS NOT IN NATURE. IT'S IN EXISTENCE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "It's just like a dude with a fucked up leg. It ain't normal, but it's a possibility."

IT AIN'T NORMAL OR NATURAL AND IS AN UNDESIRABLE OCCURENCE. BUT IT AIN'T LIKE CUZZ WITH A FUCCED UP LEg CHOSE TO BE THAT WAY.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I'm of the firm belief that they will find some kind of gay gene, gay chromosone, whatever. Some shit got fucked up when ya momma was pregnant, and you turn out a faggot playin with barbie dolls."

LOL. KEEP YOUR FINgERS CROSSED, ALONg WITH A BUNCH OF FAgS HOPIN' THIS WOULD JUSTIFY THE WAY THEY ARE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "However I'm not gonna judge that individual based on that."

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I DON'T CARE IF SOMEBODY LIKE WHAT THEY LIKE. JUST DON'T BRINg IT TO ME AND WE STRAIgHT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "This is what they did with my cousin. First his pops kicked him out, then his mom accepted him and put him through counseling and all this."

HIS POPS FUCCED UP BY KICCIN' HIM OUT FIRST.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "This is a traditional, very religious Mexican family, and his parents took the hardline like "it's a sin, it's wrong" this and that, but then they still took him back in."

WHEN YOU SAY "TRADITIONAL" YOU MEAN CATHOLIC RIgHT? WHAT THEY FAILED TO DO IS EDUCATE HIM THEY DAMN SELVES AND MAKE HIM SEE FOR HIMSELF.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Anyways after counseling, and praying, and back and forth, for years and years, they finally just said you know what it's not gonna change, and if God loves all, he loves my son too."

SOUNDS LIKE THEY gAVE UP.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "My cousin fought with it for years and years, with all his strength, and nothing changed."

HOW YOU KNOW?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Dude was a alchoholic, depressed all the time, etc. When his parents finally decided to allow him to accept it, and when he accepted it, is when his life turned around and he started goin places after just years of agony and pain."

I gUESS CUZZ JUST WANTED TO INDULgE A LITTLE AND HIS PARENTS ACCEPT IT. I FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR FAMILY MAN.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Exactly, so you can't tell somebody to like (women/men). That's decided by them and their biology...not some outside pressure."

NAW, THAT'S DECIDED BY NATURE. BIOLOgY DOESN'T HAVE NOTHIN' TO DO WITH IT(EXCEPT WHEN THEY TRY TO CHANgE YOUR SEX ARTIFICIALLY). IN NATURE, WE WERE MADE TO PROCREATE AND THAT'S WHY SEX EXISTS.