I'n a few years homosexual activity, possibily more prevalent due to a recent growth in a bi-sexual activity, might even be the norm. Just because some of you are too pussy to come out doesn't mean others won't openly express their choice. And bigantdna3 why did you tell us you like pussy? If you're so down with homosexuals and their freedom of choice then why do you feel the need to tell us that you, unlike them, are straight?
Homosexuality: Mental Illness or God's creation?
- Thread starter Ethereal
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SOME OF YAW gOT THE gAME FUCCED AND I CAN SEE WHY YAW BELIEVE WHAT IT IS. I AgREE WITH LEFT.
BUT IN MY OWN WORDS,
HOMOSEXUALITY IS AN ACT MARINATED IN THE MIND, TIL' THE PERSON WITH SUCH THOUgHT, DECIDES TO ACT UPON THE CURIOSITY. MORALLY, IT'S WRONg. SCRIPTURALLY IT'S WRONg. REPRODUCTIVELY, IT'S WRONg. NATURALLY IT'S WRONg. PSYCOLOgICALLY, IT'S WRONg.
AND FOR THOSE ADVOCATIN' THAT IT'S "NOT" A CHOICE, BUT ARE BORN WITH IT,
ANSWER THIS QUESTION:
HOW CAN AN 18 MONTH OLD BABY KNOW IF THEY LIKE DIK OR PUSSY WHEN THEY CAN'T EVEN WALK OR BARELY TALK? THEY DON'T. IN LIFE YOU LEARN AND DECIDE TO INDULgE IN WHATEVA YOUR THOUgHT PROCESS CROSSES. SOME PEOPLE MARINATE ON THE THOUgHT AND THEN DECIDE TO PARTAKE IN THE SHIT.
ALREADY DEAD,
YOU MAKIN' THE SAME CLAIMS HOMOSEXUALS MAKE IN THEY DEFENSE BUT THEIRS FLAWS TO YOUR REASONIN'. FAgS CHOOSE TO INDULgE IN THEY PERVERSIONS JUST LIKE A CHILD MOLESTER CHOOSES CHILDREN AND PEOPLE WHO FUK ANIMALS CHOOSE TO INDULgE IN WHAT THEY LIKE. IT'S IN THE MIND, AND THEY ACT OUT ON IT. SO ARE YOU SAYIN' CHILD MOLESTERS ARE BORN THAT WAY?
J-FUNK,
YOU ARE SO LOST IT'S PATHETIC. IF I WAS AN ISLANDER I WOULD WANT TO BEAT YOUR ASS JUST ON THE STRENgTH THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT SHIT.
BUT IN MY OWN WORDS,
HOMOSEXUALITY IS AN ACT MARINATED IN THE MIND, TIL' THE PERSON WITH SUCH THOUgHT, DECIDES TO ACT UPON THE CURIOSITY. MORALLY, IT'S WRONg. SCRIPTURALLY IT'S WRONg. REPRODUCTIVELY, IT'S WRONg. NATURALLY IT'S WRONg. PSYCOLOgICALLY, IT'S WRONg.
AND FOR THOSE ADVOCATIN' THAT IT'S "NOT" A CHOICE, BUT ARE BORN WITH IT,
ANSWER THIS QUESTION:
HOW CAN AN 18 MONTH OLD BABY KNOW IF THEY LIKE DIK OR PUSSY WHEN THEY CAN'T EVEN WALK OR BARELY TALK? THEY DON'T. IN LIFE YOU LEARN AND DECIDE TO INDULgE IN WHATEVA YOUR THOUgHT PROCESS CROSSES. SOME PEOPLE MARINATE ON THE THOUgHT AND THEN DECIDE TO PARTAKE IN THE SHIT.
ALREADY DEAD,
YOU MAKIN' THE SAME CLAIMS HOMOSEXUALS MAKE IN THEY DEFENSE BUT THEIRS FLAWS TO YOUR REASONIN'. FAgS CHOOSE TO INDULgE IN THEY PERVERSIONS JUST LIKE A CHILD MOLESTER CHOOSES CHILDREN AND PEOPLE WHO FUK ANIMALS CHOOSE TO INDULgE IN WHAT THEY LIKE. IT'S IN THE MIND, AND THEY ACT OUT ON IT. SO ARE YOU SAYIN' CHILD MOLESTERS ARE BORN THAT WAY?
J-FUNK,
YOU ARE SO LOST IT'S PATHETIC. IF I WAS AN ISLANDER I WOULD WANT TO BEAT YOUR ASS JUST ON THE STRENgTH THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT SHIT.
Ey mojado I'm not whining about the social stigma. I'm merely trying to set in relief the situations that qualify being publicly gay as a signifiantly damaging decision.
@ E,
My views were exactly like yours at one time. Then I met my homeboy now who was gay and I never knew it. We used to kick it alot, then he told me and I was like alright im not gonna associate with you. Then later I decided I didn't give a fuck since it was a good opportunity to have a chance to talk wit a gay person about it which is some shit I hadn't done before.
Anyways, dude has never been attracted to girls in his life. As soon as he got old enough to even be into anything sexual, he just did not feel nothin for girls. Everyone thought he was a bit strange since he never had a girl, etc. but I've always been down with outsider type of folks...I think many of us on the sicc are the same way.
Eating pork is in your head, and you do it. Having lustful thoughts is in your head, but you do it. Masturbation plus lustful thoughts is in your head, but you do it. This is opposed to scripture.
"If any man looks at a woman with lust in his heart, he has already committed adultery with her"
Yet you do it, and I could get several more examples. It's not particularly difficult.
Homosexuality is found in nature. In nearly every species of mammal there has been observed homosexual behavior. In nature there is not, however, inter-species mating as you suggest, and I'm not so sure about incest...
But your labeling of it as perversion is telling. By what standard do you label it? Personal or Biblical? And who says your Bible is better than my Qu'Ran? And who says my Qu'Ran is better than someone's Vedas? You obviously see your views as unilaterally superior. In that case there won't be much discussion anyways.
I don't personally condone it or think it's natural, but I also don't blame or judge people who are gay. What happens if your kid turns out gay? What you gonna do, sock em in the face and kick his ass out the front door, or what?
@ E,
My views were exactly like yours at one time. Then I met my homeboy now who was gay and I never knew it. We used to kick it alot, then he told me and I was like alright im not gonna associate with you. Then later I decided I didn't give a fuck since it was a good opportunity to have a chance to talk wit a gay person about it which is some shit I hadn't done before.
Anyways, dude has never been attracted to girls in his life. As soon as he got old enough to even be into anything sexual, he just did not feel nothin for girls. Everyone thought he was a bit strange since he never had a girl, etc. but I've always been down with outsider type of folks...I think many of us on the sicc are the same way.
Eating pork is in your head, and you do it. Having lustful thoughts is in your head, but you do it. Masturbation plus lustful thoughts is in your head, but you do it. This is opposed to scripture.
"If any man looks at a woman with lust in his heart, he has already committed adultery with her"
Yet you do it, and I could get several more examples. It's not particularly difficult.
Homosexuality is found in nature. In nearly every species of mammal there has been observed homosexual behavior. In nature there is not, however, inter-species mating as you suggest, and I'm not so sure about incest...
But your labeling of it as perversion is telling. By what standard do you label it? Personal or Biblical? And who says your Bible is better than my Qu'Ran? And who says my Qu'Ran is better than someone's Vedas? You obviously see your views as unilaterally superior. In that case there won't be much discussion anyways.
I don't personally condone it or think it's natural, but I also don't blame or judge people who are gay. What happens if your kid turns out gay? What you gonna do, sock em in the face and kick his ass out the front door, or what?
Psychosocially, this has been proven wrong on several levels. There was actually a case study in an exact instance that proved this...
Dude got his dick surgically chopped off at birth. His parents decided it would be best to surgically reconstruct a vagina and give him estrogen so he would grow breasts, etc.
He was placed in dresses and encouraged to play with dolls. His parents encouraged female behavior at every turn, but you can guess what happened. Here is a brief summary of the case study.
" John (pseudonym) is an XY individual born an identical twin in the suburb of a large metropolitan city. During a phimosis repair by cautery at eight months of age, his penis was accidentally burned beyond repair. On the advice of consultants, considering the beliefs of the time--that individuals are psychosexually neutral at birth--the child was from then on treated as a girl and, at the age of 17 months, surgically reassigned to be unambiguously raised as a female. Orchiectomy and "vulva" reconstruction were started with further surgery to wait until Joan (pseudonym) was older. All professionals associated with Joan's treatment, as did the parents and family, reinforced her feminine identity. Basically they treated Joan as a girl, preparing her for future vaginal reconstructive surgery and life as a woman. The broad history of this case has been reported (Diamond, 1982, 1993, 1994; Money, 1975; Money & Ehrhardt, 1972; Money & Tucker, 1975). Details too are available (Diamond & Sigmundson, 1997).
Despite Joan's rearing, from early on, she did not feel to be a girl, preferred association with boys, and pursued typical boys' activities and interests. Joan shunned female-typical activities and interests. Male predilections persisted until the age of 14, when Joan dramatically rebelled at living as a girl. This was despite orchiectomy and estrogen therapy, which led to breast development and rounded hips. To be forced to continue as a girl prompted Joan seriously to contemplate suicide. Without knowing her history, Joan, at age 14, revealed to her endocrinologist, from whom she had been receiving estrogens since age 12, "I suspected I was a boy since the second grade." A brief period followed, during which Joan, the clinical team involved in her management, and then her family discussed Joan's desire to live as the male she felt she was. When she switched to living as John, learning the truth of his history basically came as a welcome relief, as it essentially confirmed what he had believed all along. He immediately and happily recast his life. John subsequently requested and received a mastectomy and then phalloplasty and without hesitation lived and was accepted as a male.
After John transitioned to living as a boy, his interest in girls was quickly evident. He rapidly sought female erotic company. Although he had overtures from boys and men while living as a girl, and afterward while living as a male, he always rejected them. John was not homophobic but definitely gynecophilic.
After John switched to living as a male, his parents developed a great deal of guilt for their participation in the original sex reassignment. They and John have, however, reconciled. At the age of 25 he married a woman several years his senior and adopted her children (Table 1). "
Dude got his dick surgically chopped off at birth. His parents decided it would be best to surgically reconstruct a vagina and give him estrogen so he would grow breasts, etc.
He was placed in dresses and encouraged to play with dolls. His parents encouraged female behavior at every turn, but you can guess what happened. Here is a brief summary of the case study.
" John (pseudonym) is an XY individual born an identical twin in the suburb of a large metropolitan city. During a phimosis repair by cautery at eight months of age, his penis was accidentally burned beyond repair. On the advice of consultants, considering the beliefs of the time--that individuals are psychosexually neutral at birth--the child was from then on treated as a girl and, at the age of 17 months, surgically reassigned to be unambiguously raised as a female. Orchiectomy and "vulva" reconstruction were started with further surgery to wait until Joan (pseudonym) was older. All professionals associated with Joan's treatment, as did the parents and family, reinforced her feminine identity. Basically they treated Joan as a girl, preparing her for future vaginal reconstructive surgery and life as a woman. The broad history of this case has been reported (Diamond, 1982, 1993, 1994; Money, 1975; Money & Ehrhardt, 1972; Money & Tucker, 1975). Details too are available (Diamond & Sigmundson, 1997).
Despite Joan's rearing, from early on, she did not feel to be a girl, preferred association with boys, and pursued typical boys' activities and interests. Joan shunned female-typical activities and interests. Male predilections persisted until the age of 14, when Joan dramatically rebelled at living as a girl. This was despite orchiectomy and estrogen therapy, which led to breast development and rounded hips. To be forced to continue as a girl prompted Joan seriously to contemplate suicide. Without knowing her history, Joan, at age 14, revealed to her endocrinologist, from whom she had been receiving estrogens since age 12, "I suspected I was a boy since the second grade." A brief period followed, during which Joan, the clinical team involved in her management, and then her family discussed Joan's desire to live as the male she felt she was. When she switched to living as John, learning the truth of his history basically came as a welcome relief, as it essentially confirmed what he had believed all along. He immediately and happily recast his life. John subsequently requested and received a mastectomy and then phalloplasty and without hesitation lived and was accepted as a male.
After John transitioned to living as a boy, his interest in girls was quickly evident. He rapidly sought female erotic company. Although he had overtures from boys and men while living as a girl, and afterward while living as a male, he always rejected them. John was not homophobic but definitely gynecophilic.
After John switched to living as a male, his parents developed a great deal of guilt for their participation in the original sex reassignment. They and John have, however, reconciled. At the age of 25 he married a woman several years his senior and adopted her children (Table 1). "
first off i didn't say you were whining i was talking about gay....people...whinning...oh...my...you're...one of...them! ¿WhiteDiabla? 
Also there are probably more gay characters on television than there are Mexicans (excluding the latino owned channels) yet i dont bitch even 1/8 as much as the gay community. I can support an ammendment to abolish gay marriage (not that I do) and I'd be a hate monger yet if I support the INS and the way they kill Mexicans I'm a fucking patriot. Perhaps when gays have a bigger issue than self discovery I might listen to their somewhat insignificant problems. Until then make my choice pirujas.
Also there are probably more gay characters on television than there are Mexicans (excluding the latino owned channels) yet i dont bitch even 1/8 as much as the gay community. I can support an ammendment to abolish gay marriage (not that I do) and I'd be a hate monger yet if I support the INS and the way they kill Mexicans I'm a fucking patriot. Perhaps when gays have a bigger issue than self discovery I might listen to their somewhat insignificant problems. Until then make my choice pirujas.
MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
gay....people...whinning...oh...my...you're...one of...them! ¿WhiteDiabla?
The lack of real diversity on TV is shit I talk about often. But then again, listen to Mclean, since you guys got the George Lopez show, all is apparently fine and dandy.
Thats real talk. Our attitude towards Mexicans needs to get the fuck to changing soon. They need to start teaching spanish in elementary school and continue it through high school...I think our attitude towards immigrants would be very different if we all spoke Spanish.
People don't like to admit they have homosexual thoughts. They are looked upon as bad by the Western Christian society we live in. So of course people, in defending their argument about the wrongness of homosexuality, will say that "the majority of people do not have homosexual thoughts". If you are a man and have ever fantacized about two women fucking, you had indeed had homosexual thoughts.
You obviously didnt understand what my post was about. My point is that if u grew up in that tribe, you wouldn't see anything wrong with the ritual and u would think of it as a tradition/obligation rather than something sexual. And if you lived in Rome in 300 B.C. chances are you would not only have a wife, but also a gay lover.
Thats what the point of my post was^^^, not to show you some twisted shit, or to wave a homosexuality is "o.k." banner. But to let you understand that right and wrong is a learned sense, not instinct.
Thats what the point of my post was^^^, not to show you some twisted shit, or to wave a homosexuality is "o.k." banner. But to let you understand that right and wrong is a learned sense, not instinct.
I'm lost? nah u just dont like the fact that i showed something extremely different from your way of thinking. Im tryin to show ur dumbass that youre only anti-homosexual because thats what youve been taught to be. My point was that the people of this tribe saw absolutely nothing wrong with what they were doing, it was a tradition passed down for generations and wasn't viewed as sexual, rather a traditional obligation. What i'm sayin is that what you may view as absolutely sick and twisted and unnatural, may be the opposite for someone else who was never taught to think so.
You anti -gay guys I hope you have homosexual children so than you could understand that their choice to be with a man or a woman and you trying to dis-influence it has no bearing in their GAY choices or their FEELINGS!
Oh yeah! Would you KILL your kid! CHENEY acknowledges and accepts it and hes a fucking murderer! So guess what look at the whole picture and don't hate it cuz you don't understand it maybe you need a dick in your mouth! Cuz if you don't eat seafood we don't say hey your not human. All humans eat shrimp we must kill you! To you people preoccupied in other peoples lives and your own cesspool of malcontent do you decide to find an easy target and outlet for your bitter existance! Wow i thought we could be smarter than that! God Bless oh and i pray to the god that gave us free choice! Even to be GAY!
Oh yeah! Would you KILL your kid! CHENEY acknowledges and accepts it and hes a fucking murderer! So guess what look at the whole picture and don't hate it cuz you don't understand it maybe you need a dick in your mouth! Cuz if you don't eat seafood we don't say hey your not human. All humans eat shrimp we must kill you! To you people preoccupied in other peoples lives and your own cesspool of malcontent do you decide to find an easy target and outlet for your bitter existance! Wow i thought we could be smarter than that! God Bless oh and i pray to the god that gave us free choice! Even to be GAY!
It's a necessity but it's still a choice. You DO NOT HAVE TO eat. You will die but it is a choice. I am deciding to breath...now i'm holding my breath...pure choice, sure I'll pass out and then begin to breath but during the time I am able to consciously make rational decisions it is a choice. The male one is the only one that is not a choice because I am not able to choose it.