Floyd Mayweather vs Miguel Cotto, May 5th [MGM Las Vegas]

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CZAR

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if a fighter shakes their head after getting hit that isn't proof they werent hurt, often times guys do it when they are in fact hurt. hell, floyd was smiling after he was nearly dropped by mosley. now, that isn't to say floyd was hurt but he certainly looked bothered and very uncomfortable to say the least.
Dude we aint talking about any fighter we are talking about Mayweather. Thats a signature Mayweather move when he shakes his head no meaning u didnt hit me. He usually does that when someone throws a flurry of punches and the crowd gets all hype but none of the punches land clean. When he smiles that means he got hit and was surprised and being sarcastic. Either way none of that means he was hurt. Being hurt usually means either u buckle a bit, or stagger or look out of focus a bit. Against Mosley he did get hurt in the 2nd round. That was clear and no one is arguing that. Againsy Cotto he never was hurt trust me. He never staggered not one bit nor did he look hurt in the face. He threw punches right back and moved forward everytime during that round. Got Em!!
 
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the only blueprint mosley laid down was how to survive 12 rounds and lose a lopsided decision by retreating for 10 rounds trying not to get hurt.

you can say jmm has the blueprint but certainly not mosley as he didn't do anything in that fight but retreat and avoid fighting.
If you actually read what I wrote you would clearing see that I stated, all Mosley had to do was counter punch back after he made Manny miss. It's not about Mosley old ass, it's about Manny not being able to land a clean hard punch on old ass Mosley after the knock down. If a fighter gives Manny alittle movement he can't land any hard punches. Mosley proved it and Marquez proved it in back to back fights. So when Bradley's movement confuses Manny again then what?? Do you get it now smart guy?? LOL.. All you have to do is read and stop hating so damn much.
 
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Mosely ran away the whole fight against manny...if running away and retreating is what you call movement then I guess you're right. Marquez, on the other hand, DID confuse manny with movement and HIT manny a lot.

And tony, maybe I should rephrase my statement some. Mayweather allowed himself to get hit when he could have easily avoided it. Whether it was to make the fight exciting or to make others think he's vulnerable is up to debate. What shouldn't be up to debate is that pbf controlled that fight and took it in whatever direction he wanted...
 
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If you actually read what I wrote you would clearing see that I stated, all Mosley had to do was counter punch back after he made Manny miss.

Um, running from someone and making them miss are two completely different things bruh. Mosley was on his bike with no intentions of sending anything in return. Making someone miss in hopes to counter is completely different in the way that you move.


I could run from Pacquiao for 12 rounds if my only intentions were to survive until the final bell.
 
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If you actually read what I wrote you would clearing see that I stated, all Mosley had to do was counter punch back after he made Manny miss. It's not about Mosley old ass, it's about Manny not being able to land a clean hard punch on old ass Mosley after the knock down. If a fighter gives Manny alittle movement he can't land any hard punches. Mosley proved it and Marquez proved it in back to back fights. So when Bradley's movement confuses Manny again then what?? Do you get it now smart guy?? LOL.. All you have to do is read and stop hating so damn much.
like everyone is saying mosley ran, that's not movement that's running.

and he didn't counter so he obviously didn't lay down any blueprint. that's like saying Clottey laid down a blueprint to beat manny cuz he blocked 80% of his punches, if only he threw punches he would have won!!

jmm has the only blueprint. its less to do with movement and more to do with timing. its not like jmm was sticking and moving and dancing around the ring. no, he waited for pac to strike and would time him. plus he knows pac better than anyone since he's been through 36 rounds with him, he knows his style down to a science.
 
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If you are the so-called #1 P4P fighter in boxing, and can't cut off the ring to land punches on a 39 yr old gun shy fighter in Mosley, I see a big problem. Mosley was running after the knockdown, BUT please tell me why in hell didn't Manny cut off the ring, and then land some bombs to end the fight?? It's not about Mosley at all, it's about how bad Manny's offense looks against a fighter that will gives him movement. A 39 yr old Mosley was able to make Manny miss and make it until the final bell. Movement gives Manny problems and 39 yr old Mosley and a 38 yr old Marquez proved it.
 

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You make good points about cutting off the ring, that's what happened to Mayweather. Cotto was cutting the ring off and trapping him on the ropes. Floyd finally figured it out before it good too late.
 

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As u may have read before I just watched the entire fight again and May was never hurt in the 8th and everytime he got hit he punched right back and shook his head everytime the fans thought Cotto landed a clean shot and he let us know that it didnt do jack. His legs never buckled once in the 8th and he stood his ground the whole round while fighting back. Got Em!!
Busted nose, busted lip, a knot on the side of his head (on the back of his head next to his ear) and breathing out of his mouth. No, he wasn't hurt. He never got punched, never felt he needed to adjust, nothing. In fact, that was red kool-aid not blood that was on his face. You're right. Got'em. Sure.
 
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Besides his record guaranteed purse of $32 million for his victory against Miguel Cotto (who made a career-best $8 million minimum) in their junior middleweight title bout last Saturday at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas (which, by the way, will be replayed on HBO at 10:15 p.m. ET/PT on Saturday if you somehow missed it), he and Cotto also generated one of the top 10 biggest gates in Nevada -- where most of the richest fights in boxing history have taken place.

The Nevada State Athletic Commission released the gate figures on Wednesday. Mayweather-Cotto generated a live gate of $12,000,150. That figure comes from 14,612 tickets sold (and does not include the thousands who watched the fight in Las Vegas via closed circuit at other MGM properties).

There were 938 complimentary tickets given away, and 440 went unsold.

It was Mayweather's second fight that landed in the top 10. The last time he fought at junior middleweight, when he won a title from Oscar De La Hoya in 2007, the bout set the all-time record for biggest gate in Nevada and biggest gate in the history of boxing.

The pay-per-view figure for Mayweather-Cotto figures to be another 1 million-plus monster, but the number hasn't been released yet. Hopefully, it will be later this week or early next week.

Here are the top 10 boxing gates in Nevada history:

1. Mayweather-De La Hoya (2007): $18,419,200

2. Lennox Lewis-Evander Holyfield II (1999): $16,860,300

3. Manny Pacquiao-De La Hoya (2008): $14,380,300

4. Holyfield-Mike Tyson II (1997): $14,277,200

5. Holyfield-Tyson I (1996): $14,150,700

6. Tyson-McNeeley (1995): $13,965,600

7. Felix Trinidad-De La Hoya (1999): $12,949,500

8. Bernard Hopkins-De La Hoya (2004): $12,782,650

9. Mayweather-Cotto (2012): $12,000,150

10. Pacquiao-Juan Manuel Marquez III (2011): $11,648,300

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/p...s-top-10-gates

You want a 50/50 split, but yet you're always under Mayweather in fight purses earned, revenue made at the gate, and PPV numbers. lol Mayweather outsold you in PPV's with all of the common fighters you guys fought Mosley, Cotto, Hatton, and ODLH. You outsold Mayweather against Marquez and that's it. But you want a 50/50 split.

1.) You duck the fight because of random testing in 2012.
2.) Now you want to duck the fight because you a 50/50 split to retire on after you get beat-up.

Manny does not want to fight Mayweather..
 
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You make good points about cutting off the ring, that's what happened to Mayweather. Cotto was cutting the ring off and trapping him on the ropes. Floyd finally figured it out before it good too late.
Thank you pimpin. That's my point Mosley old ass was just moving and circling to the right, he was not running. All Manny had to do was cut off the ring, and start landing bombs to end the fight, Mosley was ready to quit. Marquez circled to the right, but he was throwing punches unlike Mosley.
 
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damn, hope bigface gets out of jail soon...


Argument About Floyd Mayweather Jr. Leads to Murder

by David P. Greisman

A man has been accused of killing a 20-year-old in Phoenix because he was apparently offended that the victim was not a fan of Floyd Mayweather Jr., according to The Denver Post.

The alleged shooter, Allen "bigface" Robinson, 31, has been charged with first-degree murder.

Police say Robinson and another man approached the victim, 20-year-old Francisco Suarez, and a 19-year-old man on May 6 outside of a convenience store in Phoenix. The men asked these underage men to buy them alcohol, as the clerk inside had already refused to sell to them because they seemed drunk, according to the article.

The conversation turned into a discussion about Mayweather, who had beaten Miguel Cotto by unanimous decision just hours before. Police said Robinson got upset that the young men weren’t Mayweather fans and fired a gun several times, killing Suarez, according to the article.

The other man who was with Robinson has turned himself in to police.
 
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Besides his record guaranteed purse of $32 million for his victory against Miguel Cotto (who made a career-best $8 million minimum) in their junior middleweight title bout last Saturday at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas (which, by the way, will be replayed on HBO at 10:15 p.m. ET/PT on Saturday if you somehow missed it), he and Cotto also generated one of the top 10 biggest gates in Nevada -- where most of the richest fights in boxing history have taken place.

The Nevada State Athletic Commission released the gate figures on Wednesday. Mayweather-Cotto generated a live gate of $12,000,150. That figure comes from 14,612 tickets sold (and does not include the thousands who watched the fight in Las Vegas via closed circuit at other MGM properties).

There were 938 complimentary tickets given away, and 440 went unsold.

It was Mayweather's second fight that landed in the top 10. The last time he fought at junior middleweight, when he won a title from Oscar De La Hoya in 2007, the bout set the all-time record for biggest gate in Nevada and biggest gate in the history of boxing.

The pay-per-view figure for Mayweather-Cotto figures to be another 1 million-plus monster, but the number hasn't been released yet. Hopefully, it will be later this week or early next week.

Here are the top 10 boxing gates in Nevada history:

1. Mayweather-De La Hoya (2007): $18,419,200

2. Lennox Lewis-Evander Holyfield II (1999): $16,860,300

3. Manny Pacquiao-De La Hoya (2008): $14,380,300

4. Holyfield-Mike Tyson II (1997): $14,277,200

5. Holyfield-Tyson I (1996): $14,150,700

6. Tyson-McNeeley (1995): $13,965,600

7. Felix Trinidad-De La Hoya (1999): $12,949,500

8. Bernard Hopkins-De La Hoya (2004): $12,782,650

9. Mayweather-Cotto (2012): $12,000,150

10. Pacquiao-Juan Manuel Marquez III (2011): $11,648,300

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/p...s-top-10-gates

You want a 50/50 split, but yet you're always under Mayweather in fight purses earned, revenue made at the gate, and PPV numbers. lol Mayweather outsold you in PPV's with all of the common fighters you guys fought Mosley, Cotto, Hatton, and ODLH. You outsold Mayweather against Marquez and that's it. But you want a 50/50 split.

1.) You duck the fight because of random testing in 2012.
2.) Now you want to duck the fight because you a 50/50 split to retire on after you get beat-up.

Manny does not want to fight Mayweather..
You really think Mayweather drew those fans?????

That was De la Hoya pimp....

He drew that crowd.

Did De la Hoya give Mayweather a 50/50 split?