Floyd Mayweather vs Miguel Cotto, May 5th [MGM Las Vegas]
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bigface.......bro you got a lot of nerve calling people dickriders.....
Mayweather is a great fighter, no one can take that away from him. Now, he just needs to fight 1 more guy and beat him......and people MIGHT call him the greatest ever. But he needs to quit making excuse after excuse.......
he is the one that keeps making new rules or different ones for Manny to follow.
Mayweather is a great fighter, no one can take that away from him. Now, he just needs to fight 1 more guy and beat him......and people MIGHT call him the greatest ever. But he needs to quit making excuse after excuse.......
he is the one that keeps making new rules or different ones for Manny to follow.
Cotto gave Floyd trouble because they were fighting at 154 and Cotto's jab was giving Floyd problems, I believe he busted Floyd's nose with that jab. Yes Floyd is beginning to show his age and probably only has one more fight in him.
I gave Cotto 4 rounds but this was a tough fight for Floyd, he pulled it out in the championship rounds. Cotto is not damaged goods, he's better and healthier at 154.
I don't think Pacquiao would be a tough fight for Floyd like that was because, they were fighting at 154 and Pacquiao's jab isn't that good.
I gave Cotto 4 rounds but this was a tough fight for Floyd, he pulled it out in the championship rounds. Cotto is not damaged goods, he's better and healthier at 154.
I don't think Pacquiao would be a tough fight for Floyd like that was because, they were fighting at 154 and Pacquiao's jab isn't that good.
Entertaining fight. I knew Cotto would do better than most people thought he would...just difficult to keep that pace for 36 minutes straight.
Cotto's defense towards the middle to end of the fight was impressive as well. I don't remember seeing Floyd end up with as low of a connection percentage as he did. But his defense for the most part was sick, as usual.
Also, the whole thing about Floyd fighting this style to "please fans" is kinda sketchy to me. I honestly just think that age is slowly catching up to him, and he doesn't have nearly the same foot speed that he did when he was younger, naturally.
Cotto's defense towards the middle to end of the fight was impressive as well. I don't remember seeing Floyd end up with as low of a connection percentage as he did. But his defense for the most part was sick, as usual.
Also, the whole thing about Floyd fighting this style to "please fans" is kinda sketchy to me. I honestly just think that age is slowly catching up to him, and he doesn't have nearly the same foot speed that he did when he was younger, naturally.
Cotto was having his most success with sustained pressure & combinations. I really want to see how Pac would fare against Floyd now, because although Floyd was able to avoid most of Cotto's shots...he was getting hit with the 3rd and 4th punches of some of the combos.
I don't think there's a better combination puncher in the game than Pac, right now...and definitely not one with the speed.
I don't think there's a better combination puncher in the game than Pac, right now...and definitely not one with the speed.
You didn't learn from watching that fight? Oscar gave Floyd trouble with his jab too.... Floyd is always looking to counter. If you start with your jab then that will throw Floyd's timing off a bit. There were times when Floyd countered pretty good but then there were times when Cotto's jab hit Floyd dead in his mouth/nose.
No. Jab. Stop him from circling and attack the body. Take your time with your punches as Floyd is a counter puncher and will set you up by throwing some shots just so you can take a shot that will enable him to throw three and four punch combos. You can't keep throwing punches at a guy who is in your face one minute and at the opposite side of the ring the next. This is why the jab, the most useful offensive and defensive weapon, is essential. Like Tony pointed out, watch the De La Hoya fight and you'll see what Oscars jab was doing to Floyd. Oscar let off the gas pretty much the same way Cotto let off the gas in round 9 and it cost him. The jab is key to breaking the philly shell (and if you're a southpaw you should have no toruble if you stick to the fuckin plan.)
In closing, it is easy for me to type this shit, but it is much harder to do. It's a different thing when you're in there with this guy because his discipline, speed, stamina and ring knowledge places him above everyone else.
In closing, it is easy for me to type this shit, but it is much harder to do. It's a different thing when you're in there with this guy because his discipline, speed, stamina and ring knowledge places him above everyone else.
Manny asked for $10 million ever pound that Mayweather was over 147lb (ON THE NIGHT OF THE FIGHT). Mayweather agreed.
Manny asked for the ring size. Mayweather agreed
Manny wanted a 50/50 split. Mayweather agreed
All Mayweather asked for was random blood and pee-pee test. Manny didn't agree
Mayweather even folded and said random test with a 14-day before the fight now test window. Manny didn't agree
One guy is trying to make the fight and that is Mayweather. Manny walked away from the fight 2 times, and after this big PPV by Mayweather he's never getting a 50/50 split. Now the people who were co-signing Manny backing out of a fight because of a tablespoon of blood are the TRUE DICKRIDERS. It took Manny 3 years for godsakes agree to random testing, and he still have been tested.
Manny asked for the ring size. Mayweather agreed
Manny wanted a 50/50 split. Mayweather agreed
All Mayweather asked for was random blood and pee-pee test. Manny didn't agree
Mayweather even folded and said random test with a 14-day before the fight now test window. Manny didn't agree
One guy is trying to make the fight and that is Mayweather. Manny walked away from the fight 2 times, and after this big PPV by Mayweather he's never getting a 50/50 split. Now the people who were co-signing Manny backing out of a fight because of a tablespoon of blood are the TRUE DICKRIDERS. It took Manny 3 years for godsakes agree to random testing, and he still have been tested.
actually I still favor floyd a bit against pac I was off on that 50/50 remark, that's not honest on my part. styles make fights we all know that so cotto doing well against floyd obviously doesn't mean pac would.
but I will say this - floyd was more vulnerable then I've probably ever seen him, he's much easier to be hit and it showed. now, he's not using his legs like he has in the past and whether that's him fighting this way on purpose, age or both, whatever the reason he's standing in front of his opponents and that obviously gives the opponent more opportunities than in the past when he would pot shot and stay out of harms way.
pac is a southpaw, which can be effective against floyd's defense, he throws alot of punches and most of all he has the stamina to fight 12 full rounds unlike cotto who faded a bit down the stretch.
all of that tells me its a fight that is closer than some may think. I also don't think a jab is essential in beating floyd, as Castillo was effective various different ways (although floyd fought different back then so that's kind of irrelevant now).
of course it may never happen and this may end up just being another fantasy fight.
but I will say this - floyd was more vulnerable then I've probably ever seen him, he's much easier to be hit and it showed. now, he's not using his legs like he has in the past and whether that's him fighting this way on purpose, age or both, whatever the reason he's standing in front of his opponents and that obviously gives the opponent more opportunities than in the past when he would pot shot and stay out of harms way.
pac is a southpaw, which can be effective against floyd's defense, he throws alot of punches and most of all he has the stamina to fight 12 full rounds unlike cotto who faded a bit down the stretch.
all of that tells me its a fight that is closer than some may think. I also don't think a jab is essential in beating floyd, as Castillo was effective various different ways (although floyd fought different back then so that's kind of irrelevant now).
of course it may never happen and this may end up just being another fantasy fight.
floyd is trying to cut bob arum out of the picture but obviously that wont work since pac is under contract with top rank and floyd knows that. It's not like pac can just say, "ok, I'll fight you floyd, you and golden boy promote the fight!", doesn't work that way. If floyd is serious about making the fight he's going to have to deal with top rank, it's that simple and by all accounts it doesn't look like he wants to.
That's been my point the whole time Mayweather tried to make the fight back in 2009 with a 50/50 split, but Top Rank left the table to fight Clottey. In doing that Mayweather is making more money with every fight. He's making promoter and fighter money with every event. And after Cotto vs Mayweather Top Rank can kiss a 50/50 split good bye, now even the Manny fans can't even justify it. Let not forget how Top Rank started the Mayweather is ducking and scared bullshit every since he left the company. This fight is going to be hard to make.