Floyd Mayweather vs Miguel Cotto, May 5th [MGM Las Vegas]

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bigface

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Mayweather is a Boss, and he makes more money then anyone in boxing. He made Manny an offer of $40 million(which by the way is double the amount of Manny's biggest payday) and Manny turned the offer down nothing more nothing less. But if Manny loses to Bradley or has another crappy showing for the third time in a row he'll wish he took Mayweather's offer.

FYI, Bob Arum Manny's boss never picked up the phone to try a make the fight happen with Floyd anyway.
 
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Lamberto Quintero said:
Floyd offering manny the money up front isn't too bad, why are you guys complaining? You really care for bob arum to.get cashed out that much? Don't hate on Floyd cuz he's not a puppet for a promoter like manny, him getting cashed out more than manny for the fight makes sense since he promotes himself!
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Arum can take 100% of mannys money for all I care but why should floyd care what pac does with his end of the money? Just answer the question is it fair for pac to get a flat fee of $30- $40 million while floyd gets over $80 million. Its that simple
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
If floyd's ppvs were getting like 2 million buys he may have a point but their numbers are basically the same. Pacs last ppv did 1.4 million floyd's was 1.3 million. Clearly the two biggest ppv draws in the sport.
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Ok man u need everything broken down for u. Peep dis..........Manny/Marquez did 1.4 while Mayweather/Ortiz did 1.3. Marquez probably drew almost as many people to watch that fight as Manny. Marquez is huge among Mexicans just as Pac is among Filipinos. Thats how they reached 1.4. Two great fighters with great fan bases equate that amount. Pretty much that 1.3 for the Mayweather fight was all Mayweather's or Mayweather's haters who bought the fight. Ortiz doesnt have shit for a fan base and was relatively unknown especially to casual boxing fans. He didnt bring much to that fight as far as PPV buys. So basically Mayweather by himself almost out drew Manny & Marquez together! That tells me who is easily the biggest draw in boxing and thats why he should easily get more than Manny. Got Em!!
 
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Tony

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Rasan said:
Floyd aint stupid he knows Pac would tear his head off
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LMFAO.... this is funny. How could Pac tear Floyd's head off when he couldn't even tear Marquez's head off in 3 tries?

Floyd would easily outbox Manny. Floyd's ego is making the price tag too high. He's right in regards to Pacquiao making the most he's ever made, but Floyd's ego won't allow him to give Pacquiao what's fair. Since they'd be fighting on Floyd's terms (May 5th at the MGM, drug tests included), he could at least given Pacquiao the 50/50 split, since Pacquiao's fans would be tuning in to watch the fight too.

Floyd called Manny and spoke to the man himself (without Bob Arum) interfering in the convo.

Bottom line: Floyd should have given him the 50/50 split!
 
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Tony

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CZAR said:
Ok man u need everything broken down for u. Peep dis..........Manny/Marquez did 1.4 while Mayweather/Ortiz did 1.3. Marquez probably drew almost as many people to watch that fight as Manny. Marquez is huge among Mexicans just as Pac is among Filipinos. Thats how they reached 1.4. Two great fighters with great fan bases equate that amount. Pretty much that 1.3 for the Mayweather fight was all Mayweather's or Mayweather's haters who bought the fight. Ortiz doesnt have shit for a fan base and was relatively unknown especially to casual boxing fans. He didnt bring much to that fight as far as PPV buys. So basically Mayweather by himself almost out drew Manny & Marquez together! That tells me who is easily the biggest draw in boxing and thats why he should easily get more than Manny. Got Em!!
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Floyd has proven to be the bigger draw no doubt, but Floyd got everything he asked for, May 5th date, MGM Grand, and Olympic Style drug testing, he could of at least just given him the 50/50 split, dog.
 
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Tony

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Floyd is worried more about the money but he should be more worried about his legacy. Spanking Pacquiao and then retiring would seal his legacy but he's more worried about the busine$$ aspect.
 
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CZAR said:
Ok man u need everything broken down for u. Peep dis..........Manny/Marquez did 1.4 while Mayweather/Ortiz did 1.3. Marquez probably drew almost as many people to watch that fight as Manny. Marquez is huge among Mexicans just as Pac is among Filipinos. Thats how they reached 1.4. Two great fighters with great fan bases equate that amount. Pretty much that 1.3 for the Mayweather fight was all Mayweather's or Mayweather's haters who bought the fight. Ortiz doesnt have shit for a fan base and was relatively unknown especially to casual boxing fans. He didnt bring much to that fight as far as PPV buys. So basically Mayweather by himself almost out drew Manny & Marquez together! That tells me who is easily the biggest draw in boxing and thats why he should easily get more than Manny. Got Em!!
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What were the ppv numbers for marquez vs floyd?? Thanks in advance!!

And if marquez is such a huge draw why has his ppv not against Floyd or Pac only sell about 50,000-70,000 buys? Thanks again!

The point u don't want to talk about is quite clearly floyd and pac are the two biggest draws in the sport. That is undeniable. Pac and floyd do about the same numbers consistently. There isn't anyone in the sport who can do over 1 million ppv buys besides pac and floyd. If u can't see this is a clear 50/50 split or at least close to it you're an idiot plain and simple.
 
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bigface

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Mayweather is getting all the money he can. No matter what Mayweather does haters will bash his legacy. I say Mayweather should keep doing his thing and never give Top Rank a big payday off of his hard work. Top rank started all the ducking crap in the 1st place, because Floyd there ass. Mayweather should fight Canelo then Martinez and his legacy will be just fine.
 
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But bigface, Floyd is holding up the fight bruh. He went out of his way to call Pacquiao himself, and all that crap about stadium issues, June dates (that Bob Arum brought up) wasn't an issue with Pacquiao. They're both huge draws but since Pacquiao was willing to fight him on May 5th, in Vegas, Floyd could have at least caved in and went 50/50.

So Pac's to blame the 1st time and Mayweather is to blame the 2nd time.

All Pacquiao wanted was a 50/50 split. This fight is never going to happen. But Floyd don't care because the bread is more important. It is what it is....

But he's now denying us all the fight we want to see.
 
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Tony said:
Floyd has proven to be the bigger draw no doubt, but Floyd got everything he asked for, May 5th date, MGM Grand, and Olympic Style drug testing, he could of at least just given him the 50/50 split, dog.
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Dont agree man. Pac doesnt deserve a 50/50 split! Mayweather is the best in the business and has never lost and is the face of boxing period! Got Em!!

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What were the ppv numbers for marquez vs floyd?? Thanks in advance!!

And if marquez is such a huge draw why has his ppv not against Floyd or Pac only sell about 50,000-70,000 buys? Thanks again!

The point u don't want to talk about is quite clearly floyd and pac are the two biggest draws in the sport. That is undeniable. Pac and floyd do about the same numbers consistently. There isn't anyone in the sport who can do over 1 million ppv buys besides pac and floyd. If u can't see this is a clear 50/50 split or at least close to it you're an idiot plain and simple.
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Dude of course Marquez has a big following but fight to fight makes a difference. Its all about promotion, who u are fighting, history etc..Dude was fighting Manny for a 3rd time and with all the controversy over the first two fights of course more Marquez fans were gonna watch. I am just saying that Marquez is a much bigger draw than Ortiz and I know u agree with that! Got Em!!

bigface said:
Mayweather is getting all the money he can. No matter what Mayweather does haters will bash his legacy. I say Mayweather should keep doing his thing and never give Top Rank a big payday off of his hard work. Top rank started all the ducking crap in the 1st place, because Floyd there ass. Mayweather should fight Canelo then Martinez and his legacy will be just fine.
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Agreed. Plus Martinez would be a way harder fight than Manny anyway. Got Em!!
 
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bigface

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Mayweather learnt from Top Rank two years ago about media games. Top Rank never picked up the phone to negotiate the fight in the 1st place. So Mayweather tried to make the fight without Bob involved by calling Koncz and Manny. Manny should get 50/50 of the ppv, but not 50/50 of the total revenue so Bob can get rich. Mayweather made Manny a fair offer of $40 million which is double the amount of his biggest payday. Manny turned it down no big deal, now Cotto is going to be making around $20 million, and Manny is going to make $20 million against Bradley. Arum picks up the phone and maybe both sides would've worked out a deal but it didn't happen and we are still getting two good fights, so I'm ok with that for now.

FYI, Manny does even get a 50/50 revenue split in his own inhouse Top Rank fights, but yet he wants one with Mayweather. Manny is dumb and Top Rank is still making a killing with inhouse fights.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Arum can take 100% of mannys money for all I care but why should floyd care what pac does with his end of the money? Just answer the question is it fair for pac to get a flat fee of $30- $40 million while floyd gets over $80 million. Its that simple
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The fact that mayweather promotes himself makes him more money, doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
 
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Tony said:
But bigface, Floyd is holding up the fight bruh. He went out of his way to call Pacquiao himself, and all that crap about stadium issues, June dates (that Bob Arum brought up) wasn't an issue with Pacquiao. They're both huge draws but since Pacquiao was willing to fight him on May 5th, in Vegas, Floyd could have at least caved in and went 50/50.

So Pac's to blame the 1st time and Mayweather is to blame the 2nd time.

All Pacquiao wanted was a 50/50 split. This fight is never going to happen. But Floyd don't care because the bread is more important. It is what it is....

But he's now denying us all the fight we want to see.
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Q4T.
 
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bigface

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Tony said:
But bigface, Floyd is holding up the fight bruh. He went out of his way to call Pacquiao himself, and all that crap about stadium issues, June dates (that Bob Arum brought up) wasn't an issue with Pacquiao. They're both huge draws but since Pacquiao was willing to fight him on May 5th, in Vegas, Floyd could have at least caved in and went 50/50.

So Pac's to blame the 1st time and Mayweather is to blame the 2nd time.

All Pacquiao wanted was a 50/50 split. This fight is never going to happen. But Floyd don't care because the bread is more important. It is what it is....

But he's now denying us all the fight we want to see.
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Until Manny signs a contract confriming he agrees to random testing I will not believe anything he says. Remember Manny with his I will take a smaller cut of the money to make the fight, then when Mayweather makes him a offer, Manny wants a 50/50 split or not fight. Just he walked away from the fight because of random testing. Manny is full of shit hiding behind Bob Arum.
 
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Dont agree man. Pac doesnt deserve a 50/50 split! Mayweather is the best in the business and has never lost and is the face of boxing period! Got Em!!
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PPV numbers are comparable. Gate numbers are comparable.

I don't follow your logic. These guys are both far and away the biggest draws in combat sports, period.


Please explain to me why you think either guy should get more than 50% of the pie. (And please remove Mayweather's nuts from your field of vision before doing so.)
 
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bigface

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MOREBASS said:
PPV numbers are comparable. Gate numbers are comparable.

I don't follow your logic. These guys are both far and away the biggest draws in combat sports, period.


Please explain to me why you think either guy should get more than 50% of the pie. (And please remove Mayweather's nuts from your field of vision before doing so.)
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He's using the same logic that you use when u say Bradley is better then Hatton, because Bradley looked good at 147lb against a cab driver, and Hatton had a tuff fight with the WBA champion at 147lb the same guy that gave Berto hell too. And you want someone to explain their logic to you. Lol..
 
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