Floyd Mayweather vs Miguel Cotto, May 5th [MGM Las Vegas]
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U can't compare floyd to oscar. Nobody is like oscar he was the biggest next to Mike tyson.
Never in history has the number 1 & 2 p4p fighters and two biggest ppv draws have been in the same weight class. Even if u think floyd deserves more money he surely doesn't deserve a 100/0 split of the ppv money like he wants which is absolutely absurd
Never in history has the number 1 & 2 p4p fighters and two biggest ppv draws have been in the same weight class. Even if u think floyd deserves more money he surely doesn't deserve a 100/0 split of the ppv money like he wants which is absolutely absurd
Mayweather should've change his business model for Manny. Did Tito or Mosley get a 50/50 with Oscar? Yes, Mayweather is on Oscar's level in everyway. Who has the top 3 most money making fights in boxing? I will give u a hint its not Oscar or Manny. Mayweather is a boss and if Manny doesn't like the deal Floyd offered he can and did turn it down the offer. Manny is a worker that has a boss Bob, you can't pay a worker like a boss. Bob Arum makes more money then Manny and he's not in the ring getting hit. A 50/50 revenue is Bob talking not Manny.
I just showed you what their last three fights did. You can't argue with history. I just showed you how RING rates them. You can't argue with history. I just told you Pacs last three venues were sold out and Floyds weren't. Listen, I'm not butt hurt, neither Manny or Floyd have ever given me a dime for anything so I'm not on either mans side. However I'm calling this shit down the middle. You and bigface? You two can't do that. Floyd can call out Pac, say he never said it and people overlook it. People can blame Pac for not signing years ago, whatever. We are talking about NOW. Floyd is NOT saying Manny won't agree to testing. Floyd is saying Manny won't take $40 million while he takes whatever he gets plus ALL of the pay per view money. What part about this don't you understand?
How is he the bigger draw if in their last three fights Pac has had more PPV buys, had sold out venues and is ranked #1 P4P?
Answer this question because I'm not saying Pac IS the biggest draw. What I'm saying is that Pac deserves a 50/50 split or it should 60-40 with 60 going to the winner or 55-45 with 55 going to the winner. So if you're going to say Floyd is the biggest draw, post something to back the claim. You said it now prove it. How is Floyd the bigger draw?
What the fuck is Floyd's class, nigga?
And Pacs two unavenged losses were early in his career when he was barely 100 fuckin pounds. The loss that came in 2005 was rectified by 2 more wins. He stopped the guy in 10 and then k.o.d him in the the 3rd round in the 3rd fight. So what the fuck are you talking about?
Now you sound like a fag. Floyd is not unbeatable. All it takes is one punch, from the right person at the right time and it's game over. You sound like a person who just started watching boxing since Friday Night Fights came back on. You need to go sit down son because you're making a fool of yourself. And he didn't lose his last fight to Marquez. Performed poorly? I'd say so, but it went down in the books as a wn just like Floyds fight against Castillo was a win. And before you take my words out of context and ask "why did you even mention Castillo, go back and R-E-A-D what the fuck I said and what I was responding to, Mr. Got Em'
How is he the bigger draw if in their last three fights Pac has had more PPV buys, had sold out venues and is ranked #1 P4P?
Answer this question because I'm not saying Pac IS the biggest draw. What I'm saying is that Pac deserves a 50/50 split or it should 60-40 with 60 going to the winner or 55-45 with 55 going to the winner. So if you're going to say Floyd is the biggest draw, post something to back the claim. You said it now prove it. How is Floyd the bigger draw?
What the fuck is Floyd's class, nigga?
And Pacs two unavenged losses were early in his career when he was barely 100 fuckin pounds. The loss that came in 2005 was rectified by 2 more wins. He stopped the guy in 10 and then k.o.d him in the the 3rd round in the 3rd fight. So what the fuck are you talking about?
Now you sound like a fag. Floyd is not unbeatable. All it takes is one punch, from the right person at the right time and it's game over. You sound like a person who just started watching boxing since Friday Night Fights came back on. You need to go sit down son because you're making a fool of yourself. And he didn't lose his last fight to Marquez. Performed poorly? I'd say so, but it went down in the books as a wn just like Floyds fight against Castillo was a win. And before you take my words out of context and ask "why did you even mention Castillo, go back and R-E-A-D what the fuck I said and what I was responding to, Mr. Got Em'
Leonard made less than Haglar in their fight.
With the Oscar and Trinidad fight, I think his purse was twice the size of Tito's. Then when they talked of a rematch, Oscar said he wouldn't do a split and said he would do a 70-30 split because he (Oscar) had just did 925k ppv buys against Mayorga.
So what is your point again?
With the Oscar and Trinidad fight, I think his purse was twice the size of Tito's. Then when they talked of a rematch, Oscar said he wouldn't do a split and said he would do a 70-30 split because he (Oscar) had just did 925k ppv buys against Mayorga.
So what is your point again?
Dude u sound butthurt more and more. Manny has ducked so many fighters in his career it aint even funny. Obviously Mayweather has never paid anyone a 50/50 split and he isnt about to start with Manny. Manny has lost multiple times no matter how u try to put it. Also I was given u credit for sayin Castillo may have beat Mayweather but my point was that was a long time ago meaning he hasnt come close to losing in yonders. However Manny just came very close to losing in just his last fight and a lot of people think he did lose and u cant say jack about that or that it was when he was 100 pounds! So why would Mayweather wanna give a dude he shouldve lost and perfoemed subparly a 50/50 split? I dont need to bring in numbers if u know boxing u should know what I am talking about. Mayweather is unbeaten and untarnished and is the face of boxing period! Deal with it nigga! Got Em!!
You sound dumb as fuck. And lets say Manny has ducked fighters, what does that have to do with right now?
Hey, Genius, he lost three fights. Two were early in his career when he was barely 100 fuckin lbs. They were in like the 90's and shit. His last lost came in 2005. He fought the guy who beat him TWO MORE times. He STOPPED the guy in the 10th and in the 3rd fight he KNOCKED HIM OUT in the 3rd round.
And Manny's last loss was in 2005 when he was a featherweight. That was a couple of years after Floyds fight with Castillo in which Floyd was a junior welter. So his losses come in weight classes that aren't near where he is now and have like a 20 pound difference when compared to the class he and Floyd are in now.
Did he perform poorly? Yes, but what is it officially? A win. So you can't say "Oh I thought he lost so because I thought he lost I'm only giving him this amount" LOL!
Are you retarded? Seriously, are you retarded? In his last three fights he had more ppv buys. His last three venues were sold out and NONE of Floyds last three venues were. He is ranked P4P by RING and Floyd ISN'T.
You don't have the numbers to back your claim and you don't know shit about boxing.
I know he is unbeaten and untarnished and like I've said many times now, I take my hat off to Floyd. I'm not like you and some of the others I call this shit down the middle. I've said that a lot of this is Arums fault, that Pac should have just taken the test to shut Floyd up, that Arum was pimpin Pac and Pac should fire him and get this, that Floyd can BEAT Pac. So stop sounding like a fuckin fanboy and his personal salad tosser and come with some facts to back your shit up. You said he is the biggest draw, you need to prove it because the recent numbers don't show that.
Hey, Genius, he lost three fights. Two were early in his career when he was barely 100 fuckin lbs. They were in like the 90's and shit. His last lost came in 2005. He fought the guy who beat him TWO MORE times. He STOPPED the guy in the 10th and in the 3rd fight he KNOCKED HIM OUT in the 3rd round.
And Manny's last loss was in 2005 when he was a featherweight. That was a couple of years after Floyds fight with Castillo in which Floyd was a junior welter. So his losses come in weight classes that aren't near where he is now and have like a 20 pound difference when compared to the class he and Floyd are in now.
Did he perform poorly? Yes, but what is it officially? A win. So you can't say "Oh I thought he lost so because I thought he lost I'm only giving him this amount" LOL!
Are you retarded? Seriously, are you retarded? In his last three fights he had more ppv buys. His last three venues were sold out and NONE of Floyds last three venues were. He is ranked P4P by RING and Floyd ISN'T.
You don't have the numbers to back your claim and you don't know shit about boxing.
I know he is unbeaten and untarnished and like I've said many times now, I take my hat off to Floyd. I'm not like you and some of the others I call this shit down the middle. I've said that a lot of this is Arums fault, that Pac should have just taken the test to shut Floyd up, that Arum was pimpin Pac and Pac should fire him and get this, that Floyd can BEAT Pac. So stop sounding like a fuckin fanboy and his personal salad tosser and come with some facts to back your shit up. You said he is the biggest draw, you need to prove it because the recent numbers don't show that.
He ducked Mosley for years and it wasnt until Floyd beat him that Pac wanted the fight and thats a fact. He has been ducking Martinez for forever. He ducked Bradley for a while until now. Im sure u know of all of this. he is a ducker and fights cats when he thinks its time. Simple as that. Got Em!!
Dude after all that typing u still missed the whole point! U comparing Manny's last loss to a fight in which u thought Floyd lost but he in fact won. That right there ends the discussion and makes my point. U discounting me saying Marquez beat Manny this last fight because Manny scored the victory but yet u keep acting like Floyd actually lost to Castillo when in fact he didnt. It dont add up pimp! Got Em!!
Dude after all that typing u still missed the whole point! U comparing Manny's last loss to a fight in which u thought Floyd lost but he in fact won. That right there ends the discussion and makes my point. U discounting me saying Marquez beat Manny this last fight because Manny scored the victory but yet u keep acting like Floyd actually lost to Castillo when in fact he didnt. It dont add up pimp! Got Em!!
Who? Floyd? Yes, a lot of people say that.
How is this a fact? Do you have any evidence showing that Pacs interest in fighting Shane only happened when Shane lost to Floyd?
This right here is proof you don't know shit about boxing.
See above or read naner12's post.
This is not true. Lets go back to what you originally said:
I then respond by telling you that his three losse were early in his career, when he wasn't even on ppv and that he fought the last guy who gave him an official loss TWO MORE TIMES and STOPPED him in the 10th in the second fight and K.O.'d him in the 3rd round in the third fight. I then tell you
So this wasn't to compare Manny's last loss to a fight I though Flowd lost. It was shown because YOU said Floyd has never come close to losing a fight, dummy.
Fool, where in this thread have you seen me say that Floyd lost that fight?
What doesn't add up? The fact that Pac has better PPV numbers in his last three fights, sold out his last three venues, is ranked P4P by ring and can't get a 50-50? Yeah, you're right.
You can't say he lost his last fight when it went down as a win and use your OPINION of his last fight as something to hold against him when negotiating. Now if he lost, yes that changes everything but he got the W and the PPV numbers are there.
Floyd doesn't want the fight.
How is this a fact? Do you have any evidence showing that Pacs interest in fighting Shane only happened when Shane lost to Floyd?
This right here is proof you don't know shit about boxing.
See above or read naner12's post.
This is not true. Lets go back to what you originally said:
I then respond by telling you that his three losse were early in his career, when he wasn't even on ppv and that he fought the last guy who gave him an official loss TWO MORE TIMES and STOPPED him in the 10th in the second fight and K.O.'d him in the 3rd round in the third fight. I then tell you
So this wasn't to compare Manny's last loss to a fight I though Flowd lost. It was shown because YOU said Floyd has never come close to losing a fight, dummy.
Fool, where in this thread have you seen me say that Floyd lost that fight?
What doesn't add up? The fact that Pac has better PPV numbers in his last three fights, sold out his last three venues, is ranked P4P by ring and can't get a 50-50? Yeah, you're right.
You can't say he lost his last fight when it went down as a win and use your OPINION of his last fight as something to hold against him when negotiating. Now if he lost, yes that changes everything but he got the W and the PPV numbers are there.
Floyd doesn't want the fight.
Dude we can go on an on about these two fighters and we arent gonna change each others mind. If and until they fight whats the point. We got people on both sides which is understandable and we all have our own opinions. I cant keep repeating what I think just like yourself. The convo will get stale. Lets just agree to disagree and leave it at that. Bottomline is they are probably the two best fighters (along with Martinez) and I think May is still the bigger draw and a bit more popular and should call the shots as far as the money goes. he could be a little more flexible with Manny but I still dont agree with 50/50. Other than that I aint gonna go back and fourth with insults as it adds nuthin to the debate. Floyd may have possibly lost one fight in some peoples minds while Manny has lost 6 fights in a lot of peoples minds including the 3 fights against Marquez. Thats way to many close fights to be considered the same class as Mayweather in my book. Got Em!!
Blah blah blah. This is the kind of nonsense I am talking about. U bring nuthin to the debate and just yap your dicksucker! Atleast Heresy can bring sumthin the to the debate. learn about it scrub! Got Em!!
Blah blah blah. This is the kind of nonsense I am talking about. U bring nuthin to the debate and just yap your dicksucker! Atleast Heresy can bring sumthin the to the debate. learn about it scrub! Got Em!!
Ur history is whack. Tito was never on a ppv before oscar.
And as a matter of fact Leonard gave hagler more money in exchange fora larger ring and a 12 round fight instead of 15.
And here we have floyd who wants to dictate the date, the venue, OSTs AND 100% of the ppv. Smh. Floyd will never ever be a leonard.
And as a matter of fact Leonard gave hagler more money in exchange fora larger ring and a 12 round fight instead of 15.
And here we have floyd who wants to dictate the date, the venue, OSTs AND 100% of the ppv. Smh. Floyd will never ever be a leonard.