Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Juan Manuel Marquez in the Works for July 18th

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May 13, 2002
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lol floyd is sneaky.

Floyd apparently never agreed to that weight and 144 NEVER APPEARED in HIS contract for the fight, 144 was only in Marquez' contract.

So Floyd Mayweather wasn't just playing a game when he refused to divulge the contracted weights. We had confirmation from Keith Kizer of the Nevada State Athletic Commission yesterday that Juan Manuel Marquez, for one, was contracted to weigh 144. But although he came in under that, at a generally solid 142 -- even though it did look as if just a tiny bit of that weight was, shall we say, spare -- Mayweather weighed in at a ripped and lean 146. We'll have to do some digging, but they must have had two separate weight agreements.


http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/fightcred/blog?id=4462628

and this from the ringtv.com

Since the fight was made in May of this year, there has been speculation as to how much the fighters were contracted to weighin.

The Mayweather camp maintained that it was a welterweight bout with the usual 147-pound limit, while Golden Boy Promotions, the promoter for Saturday's fight, claimed that the fighters agreed to a 144-pound catchweight.

Obviously, Team Mayweather was right. It is not known if the Mayweather side agreed to pay Team Marquez any bonus/penalty money for every pound that Mayweather came in over 144 pounds. According to Keith Kizer of the Nevada State Athletic Commission there is no such agreement.
 
Feb 23, 2006
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Yea oscar looked piss when they anounce 146 u could tell all of golden boy promotions where talking about the weight. Fuck floyd it suppose to be at 144 that's why nobody likes his bitch ass an never will
 
May 6, 2002
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I don't understand how there could be 2 separate contracts. I would assume they both sign the same one. Total slip up on behalf of Marquez's team if they did fall through a hole like that.

Can't really blame PBF though. His catch was 147 and he stuck to it.
I can't believe Marquez was even able to pick up that much weight in that much time, cleanly. It's much harder for a boxer as well since they burn so much. He must have been eating at least 3500-4000 calories a day.
 
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Mayweather loses $300K per pound

LAS VEGAS -- Floyd Mayweather Jr. weighed in at 146 pounds on Friday afternoon, two pounds heavier than the weight stipulated in the contract for his comeback fight against lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez on Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

The excess weight will cost Mayweather $300,000 per pound, meaning Marquez will get an additional $600,000 on top of his $3.2 million guarantee, a source told ESPN.com. Mayweather's minimum guarantee is $10 million, a figure likely to dramatically increase after the pay-per-view receipts are counted.

Marquez, who has never fought heavier than 135 pounds, comfortably made 142 pounds, two less than the 144-pound contract weight.

At Mayweather's request, nobody would speak publicly about the contract weight throughout the promotion that kicked off in early May and continued into the fall when the fight was postponed from July 18 because of a Mayweather rib injury.

However, several sources with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com all along that the contract maximum weight was 144 pounds, three less than the 147-pound welterweight maximum.

But after Friday's weigh-in, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer finally addressed the issue, telling ESPN.com, "The fight was contracted as a welterweight fight with an agreed upon weight of 144 pounds. However, there were pre-negotiated weight penalties built in."

Schaefer would not disclose the dollar figure, but another source with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com that the penalty was $300,000 per pound if either fighter was overweight.

According to the source, the Marquez camp knew Wednesday night that Mayweather would not make weight because Mayweather's team made overtures to Golden Boy Promotions in an effort to have Marquez agree to change weight on the bout agreements to be filed with the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

However, Marquez's contract had already been filed reading 144 pounds, according to commission executive director Keith Kizer. But Kizer said the bout agreement was retrieved from the commission by Golden Boy Promotions and changed to 147 with Marquez initialing it.

Mayweather's contract with 147 pounds was not filed with the commission until minutes before the weigh-in. Kizer said it was supposed to be filed on Wednesday.

Kizer said the Mayweather camp asked to file it Thursday and he said OK, but that deadline also came and went.

"We were very unhappy with the lateness of Mr. Mayweather's contract," Kizer said.

Kizer said that had the bout agreements not been changed to 147, Mayweather would have faced a fine from the commission in addition to whatever penalty he had agreed to pay Marquez. For being two pounds overweight, Kizer said the penalty would have been 10 percent of his purse, or $1 million. Had he been three pounds over (147 pounds), the figure would have jumped to a 20 percent fine.

Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer.
 
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I wonder if Mayweather had a hard time making 146 and then just said fuck it, I'll just pay the 600k. Teddy Atlas made a good point on FNF tonight where he said we don't know what mayweathers weight was going into training camp and it's possible the weight was falling off as quickly as they anticipated, so they were like fuck it.

Either that or he wanted the 2 pound advantage, which seems kinda pointless anyway being he's the bigger man regardless.

At the end $5.6 million will be takin out of his earnings (600k to marquez and $5 million to the IRS).
 
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I can't believe Marquez was even able to pick up that much weight in that much time, cleanly. It's much harder for a boxer as well since they burn so much. He must have been eating at least 3500-4000 calories a day.
Why though? It's just like pacquiao, they are just fighting closer to their walking around weight. When Pacquiao fought at 130 pounds, he would weigh in around 142 on fight night. Now he's fighting at 140 and he weighing in around 142. lol
 
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Shady shit by Team Mayweather.

Glad he's getting his ass taxed for that bitch move. Look he's already got a huge advantage fighting the champion of a weight class 12 pounds below the division he fights in.

Although I don't think it will make a big difference in the fight, as Mayweather is not the type of fighter who physically imposes his size on people, but the fact is that you've got to give up some advantages to make the fight more fair.

People already look at this fight and see Floyd as kind of a pussy for not fighting a real welterweight, this only makes things worse.


I hope Marquez knocks him out! War Dinamita!
 
May 6, 2002
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Why though? It's just like pacquiao, they are just fighting closer to their walking around weight. When Pacquiao fought at 130 pounds, he would weigh in around 142 on fight night. Now he's fighting at 140 and he weighing in around 142. lol
That's true looking at it that way. I just dont think they would want to come in as their walking weight though, since that's some fat and water. I would want to exchange the fat for muscle and ease up on the water retention. Plus Marquez just jumped a class a year ago, now he's jumping another class and a half. That's 12 pounds of pure muscle that he put on in a year, which is very difficult to do. Props to both of them though. I guess that's why they are the professionals.

It's going to be very interesting to see what they weigh in as tomorrow.

Looking forward to the fight. Not looking forward to Mayweathers loud mouth post fight comments...
 
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rofl I go to the store to buy some brews for today and I hear some dumbass telling his friend how it's sooo unfair they are deducting money from Mayweather's purse because of "excess weight". lol fairweather fans are funny.