FARANHEIT 9/11

[FunK-3-FivE]

I've seen his movie and I've been in combat, so I know more than most people on here that are quoting Michael Moore's movie. Like I said, FUCK BUSH, FUCK MICHAEL MOORE. They are both LIARS.

nah actually all the facts in the movie are true just read this paragraph from time magazine... the guy is thinking about making a $10,000 reward for anyone to prove any of the facts in the movie aren't true.

...He also hired the former chief of fact checking at the New Yorker magazine to comb the film for inaccuracies. "There's lots of disagreement with my analysis of these facts or my opinion based on the facts. But," he insists, "there is not a single factual error in the movie. I'm thinking of offering a $ 10,000 reward for anyone that can find a single fact that's wrong."

-Time Magazine / Richard Corliss, Reported by Desa Philadephia and Jeffrey Ressner/Los Angeles, Jackson Baker/Memphis, Betsy Rubiner/Des Moines and John F. Dickerson and Adam Zagorin/Washington, with other bureaus
July 12, 2004

 

[Diablo]

get your facts str8

I also forgot to point out that those Saudi flights didn't leave the U.S. until AFTER U.S. airspace was open, not like Moore tells it in his movie.

Alot of people are gettin this shit twisted...he explains it all on his website ...He NEVER said that....here's the link of all the "lies" and "bullshit facts" coming from farenheit 9/11.....all with clarification for people that got it twisted...

http://michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/statements/index.php?id=69

 

[JESTER]

<< i only read the first page but yall should read "the culture of fear" its a lil boring but it shows how the media manipulates people 2 believe anything and everything

 

[Old$chool]

nah actually all the facts in the movie are true just read this paragraph from time magazine... the guy is thinking about making a $10,000 reward for anyone to prove any of the facts in the movie aren't true.

...He also hired the former chief of fact checking at the New Yorker magazine to comb the film for inaccuracies. "There's lots of disagreement with my analysis of these facts or my opinion based on the facts. But," he insists, "there is not a single factual error in the movie. I'm thinking of offering a $ 10,000 reward for anyone that can find a single fact that's wrong."

-Time Magazine / Richard Corliss, Reported by Desa Philadephia and Jeffrey Ressner/Los Angeles, Jackson Baker/Memphis, Betsy Rubiner/Des Moines and John F. Dickerson and Adam Zagorin/Washington, with other bureaus
July 12, 2004

Of course he can offer his "reward" because of the way he worded his comments in his movie.
Point#1: In the movie, he comments that the "flights" left after th 13th-leading people to believe that the supposed flights left when US airspace was closed, when in fact US airspace was open on the 14th, which is technically "after the 13th..." You see, he neglects to tell the WHOLE fact, therfore insinuating that some "hidden" bullshit that supposedly went on.

He does this through the entire movie. Again, I'm NOT pro-bush, I'm anti-bullshit. I don't like the way Moore portrays himself as the truth-telling "common man" when he himself is an admitted fact-twister.

 

[Old$chool]

Alot of people are gettin this shit twisted...he explains it all on his website ...He NEVER said that....here's the link of all the "lies" and "bullshit facts" coming from farenheit 9/11.....all with clarification for people that got it twisted...

http://michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/statements/index.php?id=69

Of course he explains it all on his website. Funny though, how he won't go on any tv shows or any public forum because he'll be exposed for the fraud that he is if somone challenges him. He also won't do that because he won't be able to edit, re-edit, piece together his "facts" and twist the truth the way he can do with his own movie. And I find it funny how he's already changing what he was alluding to in his movie. Because according to that link, now he says that only ONE flight left on the 13th, once again contradicting what he says to begin with.

Since you posted up a link, I thought I'd post my own.

http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20040702.html

check that shit out, and here's another one where you can click on any of the Michael Moore links

http://www.spinsanity.org/topics/#MichaelMoore


Ya'll can believe Moore all you want, you're free to do so. But me, I don't believe either one of these muthafuckas. Both him and Bush are lying out their ass to make a buck.

 

[Old$chool]

<< i only read the first page but yall should read "the culture of fear" its a lil boring but it shows how the media manipulates people 2 believe anything and everything

My whole point exactly. The media does manipulate people into believing anything and everything. And Michael Moore belongs to that group since he IS the media as well. Like I said before, Moore and Bush, one in the same.

 

[ROB RIZE]

MAN ALL I GOTTA SAY IS http://www.rockthevote.org/

 

[Diablo]

My whole point exactly. The media does manipulate people into believing anything and everything. And Michael Moore belongs to that group since he IS the media as well. Like I said before, Moore and Bush, one in the same.

lol CUMMON now.....Moore and Bush; one in the same ??? I highly doubt Moore or any of his friends ever had anything to do with the mass murder of thousands of people...Bush on the other hand....well...hmmm

Even if Moore stretches his shit out, I don't see it hurting anybody but the government...so why do you care??? I'd rather have a million people "brainwashed" by Michael Moore than to have 1000 brainwashed Bush fanatics....like i said, EVEN if all the man did was lie out of his ass (whatever), what bad will come of it except for the masses on earth to open their eyes and minds to a government that has been fucking them with no vaseline ???? i just don't see the harm....better that people are open eyed and cautions than running around like scared rats of fears that the American media plants in them.....

 

[MENTAL ILLNESS]

MAN........FUCK BUSH!

 

[Old$chool]

lol CUMMON now.....Moore and Bush; one in the same ??? I highly doubt Moore or any of his friends ever had anything to do with the mass murder of thousands of people...Bush on the other hand....well...hmmm

Even if Moore stretches his shit out, I don't see it hurting anybody but the government...so why do you care??? I'd rather have a million people "brainwashed" by Michael Moore than to have 1000 brainwashed Bush fanatics....like i said, EVEN if all the man did was lie out of his ass (whatever), what bad will come of it except for the masses on earth to open their eyes and minds to a government that has been fucking them with no vaseline ???? i just don't see the harm....better that people are open eyed and cautions than running around like scared rats of fears that the American media plants in them.....

I'm starting to sound like a broken record, again, Moore isn't telling us anything that we don't already know. He's not opening anyone's eyes. Are you trying to tell me that until his movie came out, no one questioned the government? That no one knew that Bush and Cheney were lying? And if you think that Moore's gonna change the mind of Bush supporters, you're diluding yourself. This movie was made to make Moore more millions and that's the bottom line. And you're taking my post out of context. Bush and Moore one in the same is saying that they're both liars who are profitting off of the war. I never said anything more than that. Bush and his friends are connected to mass murdering thousands of people? Again, you're going on the words of Moore, who has been debunked and has gone on record as to changing his shit around and staging and lying and editing his movies. And you don't see Moore's lying hurting anyone? It's hurting the very cause that he's supposedly fighting for when his facts don't hold any water. It makes us all look like conspiracy freaks. Moor's a liar, just as much as Bush.

 

[Old$chool]

Your trippin because I seen him on hella tv show's and news shows and he was shiting on the reporters trying to get attitudes with him.... Its the other way around the reporters DONT want him on there show's because he makes them look bad.

You've seen him on HELLA shows shitting on reporters? Funny, the few shows I've seen him on when he's questioned, he back peddles and gets angry. He repeats the same bullshit he posts on his website. He never backs up his shit with actual, whole facts. Did you even read any of the links I provided? ALL of his movies are full of deceptive "facts" and misleading information. When reporters check him on it what does he do? He goes on his website and posts his mistakes, yet he claims that he hires all of these "fact-checkers." Then why has he admittedly changed and altered shit in his movies when he gets caught? He's changed shit on the DVD release of "Bowling for Columbine" after getting called on it. Are you denying that he hasn't done this? He states shit on his own website. How can you honestly question one side without questioning the other. You all say you don't wanna get brainwashed, yet you're hanging on every word that Moore says. Does he represent the "truth?" No.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

Bush is a straight up tool that does not give two fucks about anyone making less than 100k a year. Anyone who supports Bush is beyond blind. In his entire presidency, he has not done one thing well. Nothing.

 

[MENTAL ILLNESS]

FUCK BUSH AND IF YOU SUPPORT HIM...FUCK YOU TOO!

 

[NoR CaL LoCC]

I SUPPORT BUSH SO FUCK YOU

THESE 2 POSTS ABOVE ME WERE THE STUPIDEST FUCKIN POSTS EVER

BUSH HASNT DONE ANYTHING? HAHA

I CANT EVEN RESPOND

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

Yea "locc"...you real down with the "streets" of Petaluma....supporting joke ass Bush. Racist ass gavacho mothafucka go home blood.

 

[MENTAL ILLNESS]

ALRIGHT NOR CAL JOKE...ANYTIME YOU WANNA SEE ME COME OUT TO STOCKTON AND GO TO LOUIS PARK...ASK FOR N-SANE AND WE'LL SEE WHO FUCKS WHO! DONT LET BITCH ASS BUSH BE THE REASON! FUCK BUSH!

 

[ROB RIZE]

I SUPPORT BUSH SO FUCK YOU

THESE 2 POSTS ABOVE ME WERE THE STUPIDEST FUCKIN POSTS EVER

BUSH HASNT DONE ANYTHING? HAHA

I CANT EVEN RESPOND

man your hella bloind . hes the FUCKIN DEVIL NO OTHER PRES HAS BEEN AS SCANDOLOUS. IF BUSH GETS RE ELECTED I THINK HES GONNA ...WELL I DONT HAVE TO SAY IT.YALL KNOW WHATS GONNA HAPPEN.
FUCK BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Old$chool]

I’m not brainwashed by anybody I just happen to agree with Moore "BUSH IS AN ASSHOLE" Why should I care if more made millions that’s his right and I think he earned it unlike some of these politicians who get in power and set the whole game up to rob the world no matter what way you look at it there coming up some way and some how and we get higher gas price's a fake energy crisis cut educational programs.

Are you a Republican?

Wow. We keep going in circles. Am I a Republican? If that question is to me, you should already know the answer to that if you've read any of my posts correctly. But let me repeat, I'm NOT a Republican, I'm NOT a Democrat, I'm NOT a Bush supporter, I'm NOT a Moore supporter. I'm an ex-Marine who's been in combat in the first Gulf War and in Kosovo during Clinton's administration. I've seen what goes on in other countries and I've seen and heard the lies that both parties have said, including Moore-the Democrat. He's a liar just like Bush, plain and simple. To tell you the truth, I've been of fan of Moore's work. i enjoy his movies. I've seen them all from "Roger and Me" in 89' to "Fahrenheit 9/11" but I've also known that he misleads his audience and twists facts around in order to get his point across. I can appreciate what he's trying to say and do, but he's going about it the wrong way. He should do some serious fact-checking before he makes his accusations because like it or not, believe or not, the fact is that he has several errors in ALL of his films and he is very much so, part of the media. Did any of you even click on the links I provided? They tear apart a lot of his so-called "facts." And the organization that runs that website attacks EVERYONE, including BUSH and CLINTON and every politician you can think of. They fact-check all their shit in order to expose the deceit that ALL politicicans, including MOORE, exclaim.

Here they are again:

http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20040702.html

http://www.spinsanity.org/topics/#MichaelMoore


Check those out and THEN tell me Moore's not full of shit. Don't be afraid to find out the truth. Just click and read.

 

[Diablo]

Are you trying to tell me that until his movie came out, no one questioned the government? That no one knew that Bush and Cheney were lying?

hell nah, but it reached those people that don't hear shit or know about shit unless it's on a tv screen....so many people turned pro-bush just after 9/11 and believing any damn thing the media put out there

This movie was made to make Moore more millions and that's the bottom line.

maybe...but the oil business was all filled up :dead:

Bush and his friends are connected to mass murdering thousands of people? Again, you're going on the words of Moore, who has been debunked and has gone on record as to changing his shit around and staging and lying and editing his movies.

lol i been saying that before i even knew who Moore was....i already have my views on all of this, Moore is not gonna give me a revelation....

And you don't see Moore's lying hurting anyone? It's hurting the very cause that he's supposedly fighting for when his facts don't hold any water.

Moore's "lies" will never result in the deployment of thousands of troops on foreign soil, killing innocent families & their children....again , i don't see the harm...you're making it sound like the movie has no validity to it AT ALL...it's the bigger picture and message i care about...if he can open peoples' eyes to the corruption, i'm happier...not for him, but for the people that were still in the dark about some things.

Moor's a liar, just as much as Bush

i just don't see the comparison at all....it's not an even one

 

[NoR CaL LoCC]

OK LET ME STATE THIS SHIT AGAIN

THE DECLINE IN OUR ECONOMY STARTED UNDER CLINTON SO WHAT DID BUSH DO IN HIS 4 YEAR TERM? BUILD THE ECONOMY BACK UP

WHAT ELSE DID BUSH DO? TOOK DOWN A TERRORFUL REGIME, A LEADER THAT USED WMD ON HIS OWN PEOPLE, IT DOESNT MATTER IF IT WAS AN EXCUSE IF HE MEANT TO DO IT OR WHATEVER HE STILL FUCKIN DID IT

HE HAS KEPT GAS PRICES REASONABLY LOW SINCE WE WENT TO IRAQ HELPED THEM SET UP A GOVERNMENT AND STRUCK A GOOD DEAL WITH GAS PRICES

YO GROW UP DUDE, U HELLA WANNA FIGHT? THAT CHILDISH SHIT, IVE ALREADY BEEN TO JAIL AND I AINT TRYNA GO BACK, YA DUDE SEE WHERE BEIN A HARD ASS MUTHAFUCKIN THUGS GETS U IN LIFE
WHAT U GONNA DO GET DRUNK EVERYNIGHT AND GO OUT LOOKIN FOR FIGHTS SEE WHERE THAT SHIT MY UNCLE DID THAT SHIT AND HE GOT CAUGHT SLIPPIN I AINT GOIN DOWN THAT PATH GROW THE FUCK UP