Do you believe in the Power of Prayer?

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Do you believe in the power of prayer and faith?


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nhojsmith said:
or make a retarded child fly like an eagle
Bwahaha.

and will that god selectively listen to peoples cries for help granting and not granting answers to prayers like the wizard of oz, picking and choosing among his "equal" children, and the higher power might change the events of reality if he is in the mood for the day or if you kiss his ass enough like some low paid career failure substitute teacher seeking evidence that he is actually needed in society? no, i dont.
Hah.

Even for a dribble mouth Republican, this is good type.
 
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2-0-NINE said:
THE REASON I ASK THIS IS BECAUSE MY MOTHER WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER IN HER INTESTINES AND LIVER. IT WAS WATER OR FLUID AND THEY PRONOUNCED IT TERMINAL. THEY SAID SHE WAS GONNA DIE AND THAT ONLY CHEMO WOULD HELP HER. I PRAYED, I WENT TO CHURCH, I VOUCHED FOR JESUS EVERYDAY AND EVERY SITUATION I WENT THROUGH I ALWAYS VOUCHED FOR HIM(JESUS). TODAY I HAD GOOD NEWS, CONTRARY TO WHAT "THE BEST DOCTORS STOCKTON AND KAISER HAD" TO OFFER, LOL, AND AGAINST WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED SHE WAS HEALED. WELL HER TUMOR HAS GONE DOWN AND THE TRACES OF IT HAVE ALMOST BEEN NEUTRALIZED. IT'S A LONG STORY TO EXPLAIN, TROLL AND ONLY TWO FOLKS HERE KNOW WHAT WENT DOWN.

REGARDLESS IF YOU ARE AN ATHEIST, THEIST, OR AGNOSTIC, I BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF PRAYER, THE POWER OF FAITH, AND THE GRACE OF GOD. MAY ALL OF YOU GO IN PEACE!!!! GOD BLESS

it must be hard to be a doctor.....

this paragraph is an example of why....

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I believe $trongly in both GOD and PRAYER.... I live my life on the two.... In the life i lead itz all i have to go on everyday... I believe GOD him$elf haz kept me alive thi$ long i face illne$$ and a $ick mind everyday of my life... GOD aint turned on me .. I know he i$ ju$t waiting till thi$ lo$t $oul i$ found then he will take me...


^^^REAL TALK
 

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krazy said:
I believe $trongly in both GOD and PRAYER.... I live my life on the two.... In the life i lead itz all i have to go on everyday... I believe GOD him$elf haz kept me alive thi$ long i face illne$$ and a $ick mind everyday of my life... GOD aint turned on me .. I know he i$ ju$t waiting till thi$ lo$t $oul i$ found then he will take me...


^^^REAL TALK
and you believe this based on what?
 
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To continue this thread, to those that don't believe in the power of prayer/faith let me ask you this. Do you guys take chances in hopes that the chance you take will result in what you hope or expect to get? If so what makes that risk you take in hopes of getting what you want or need any different then our hopes/faith in our prayers being answered?
 
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There already has been studies that prayer doesn't do FUCK ALL. The only reason one should pray is to just strengthen his/her beliefs or self or whatever. It's a personal thing. Praying may help you, but it doesn't actually do anything.
 
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The Bible speaks of how Jesus prayed with such intensity he bled.
I will paraphrase from the Bible : When you pray, do so locked away so nobody can see you; those who pray so others can see them have their reward already.
 

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FreedomLost said:
The Bible speaks of how Jesus prayed with such intensity he bled.
I will paraphrase from the Bible : When you pray, do so locked away so nobody can see you; those who pray so others can see them have their reward already.
How are you so sure that what is written in the Bible is true??

The much more plausible hypothesis is that such stories in the Bible are designed to strengthen the faith of / brainwash naive followers of Christianity and they never really happened......
 
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heres the thing, i believe in it highly. most people a see that do not believe in it are ones who dont understand it. you cant stop ones death with prayer, cause it might be his/her time to go. you cant pray without faith and expect shit to happen. you cant have greedy intentions when praying. when you pray for money, i assume you want it in large amounts. when you pray for money, and you have a friend that lends you 20$ to get out of a bad situation caused by a front or whatever, then i think that is somewhat religious intervention, because it gets you out of trouble ect..... another thing, you cant expect a prayer to be answered a certain way. i once heard a story where a man prayed to be saved due to the fact he was drowning in the ocean. when a response team of boats came to save his ass, he said "no, god will save me" when a helicopter came, he said the same thing, the man drowned obviously, because he expected shining angels to come and pull him out and fly him to safety. this story is not true, but is an example, it serves a very legit point as well. lastly, you cant just run to god when things go bad. what happens when you have that one friend that you know doesnt give a shit about you, but will always call when hes in a bad situation? you dont take him seriously, and as a resault of that, you dont answer his request. this same common sense logic works when thinking of reasons why god never seems to "work" for you. this in no way means you must be christian or whatever, because god doesnt care about what you name your faith, just have faith and actually give a shit about him even when your not in a situation you need to be bailed out of
 

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Pray to my God everyday, but he don't listen
The poverty bothers me; but mama's workin wonders in the kitchen
Listen I can hear her cryin in the bedroom
Prayin for money but never think she'd be dead soon
Am I wrong - for wishin I was somewhere else
I'm thirteen, can't feed myself
Can I blame daddy 'cause he left me; wish he would've helped me
Too much like him, so my mama don't love me
On my own at a early age - I'm gettin paid
and I'm strapped so I'll never be afraid
Where did I go astray? I'm hangin in the back streets
runnin with G's and dopefiends will they jack me?
Can't turn back, my eyes on the prize
I got nothin to lose, everybody gotta die
Say good-bye to the - bad guy
that one you fucked when you passed by
Buck buck (*gunshots*) from a Glock let the glass fly
Do or die walk a mile in my shoes
And you'd be crazy too

I thank the Lord for my many blessings
Though I'm stressin keep a vest for protection
from the barrel of a Smith & Wesson
And all my niggaz in the pen, here we go again
Ain't nothin seperatin us from a mack 10
Born in the ghetto as a hustler, older
Straight soldier, buckin at them bustaz
No matter how you try niggaz never die
We just retaliate with hate, then we multiply
See me strikin down the block hittin co'ners
Mobbin like a motherfucker livin like I wanna
Ain't no stoppin at the red lights - I'm sideways
Thug Life motherfucker criiime pays
Let the cops put they lights on - chase me nigga
Zig-zaggin through the freeway - race me nigga
In a high speed chase with the law
The realest motherfucker that you ever saw, I'm livin raw
'til they bury me don't worry me, I'm high
Livin like I ain't afraid to die (hahaha)
And you could walk a mile in my shoes
and you'd be crazy too

Ain't no escape from a deadly fate
And everyday there's a million black bodies put away
I'm startin' to lose hope; it seems everybody's on dope
Mama told me to leave cause she was broke
Sometimes I choke on the indo, creepin out the window
Alone on my own I'm a criminal
Got no love from the household, I'm out cold
On the streets screamin motherfuckin peace
I got nothin to lose, and somethin to prove, what do I do?
Live the Thug Life nigga stay true
I wonder when they, kill me, is there a Heaven for a real G
Lord forgive me if you feel me
Cause all my life I was dirt broke, with no hope
Lil' skinny motherfucker wantin dough
I hated cuttin suckers with my razor blade
but everyday it's a struggle to get major paid
Anyway it's so hard on a nigga in this city, no pity
And ain't no love for the scrubs that be buyin dubs
If you could walk a mile in my shoes you'd be crazy too
 
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#34
JLMACN said:
^^^no no no no....
Jesus wrote the bible himself..

you can not tell us otherwise!

:)
No one is bashing anyone in this thread the typical JLMACN shows up talking shit, the first shit talker. Anyways to answer ThaG's question if how the bible is true. The Jews had written the Torah and the Tanakh(The Whole old testament) before the scrolls or originals were scattered, maybe throughout the whole time the bible was written or the Diaspora. Anyways, a few of the original scrolls were found damaged and some were found whole. See dead sea scrolls for a better understanding. A good example is the book of Isaiah, the manuscripts are copies of the original, so as copies scholars are automatically going to question the authenticity of the book. Although many of the dead sea scrolls(or originals) were found in fragments. Look for the Masoretic texts, these are manuscripts or copies.

To make my digression short, scholars put the scrolls found of Isaiah side to side with the Hebrew Manuscripts, and guess what? The original hebrew scrolls along with the masoretic texts were indistinguishable. As close as it gets, al dente or close to perfect. The only thing that people will use as an excuse is the use of modern day language, but there was no mistake in the indistinguishable texts. Could stories written down and passed down generation to generations, called false, then later to be confirmed be a coincidence? I don't think so. I highly suggest you look more into the masoretic texts and the correlation between them and the dead sea scrolls.

The Links I gave you should suffice in terms of the information you would need. But knowing wikipedia you should also do your own study.
 
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#35
I don't get why people are so negative about something that doesn’t even exist to them? Shit I don't believe in Santa Clause but I don't slander him, because he is not real to me. Most of you guys just want a reaction out of people. Prayer is very real, I don’t have any proof that it is. But I have stories that I was actually a part of, but I’m sure you guys don’t want to hear my about my fantasy land. So I won’t go there.
 
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XxtraManish said:
What is the point of God having a divine plan if any asshole can just wish for something and change the course of the plan?
Whose to say your prayer being answered is guaranteed? It's not always a given and people will see this as hypocrisy on the part of God. ThaG made a good point, people pray and they still die. Can I easily say I have more faith, can I easily say that I was chosen to have my prayers answered, certainly but I will not do so because I have my own reasons, but I do believe there are times when your prayers are answered and when they are not.

Living a life in total faith is a big leap, but living in faith doesn't mean that you should remain stagnant and watch as the Lord does everything for you. You've heard the saying God helps those who help themselves, I disagree with that cliche but I do agree to some extent. If you ask God to help you financially, do you expect him to send you a check for a million dollars? Or from a more realistic standpoint, he'll created opportunities for you and it's left up to you to excel and get to where you need in life to make that money. I think that's more rational then just sitting down on the siccness and waiting for a check or miracle to happen when you plan on not doing shit.

But I will tell you this, I know people that have prayed and worked their asses of only to be disappointed and give up on prayer and faith. Then there are some that never gave up and they either got what they prayed for due to their patients or never got what they prayed for but still lived in faith. God is a give and take here people. Don't hate God, don't hate the faith, don't hate the people, but hate yourself for being so miserable.
 
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No one is bashing anyone in this thread the typical JLMACN shows up talking shit, the first shit talker.
In the words of your God...

"Throw a rock into a pack of wolves, and the first the howles, is the one that got hit"...

I wasnt bashing anyone imparticular, but yet you found a way to take my words and turn them against yourself. If the shoe fits, wear it and dont complain about the way it looks.

I don't get why people are so negative about something that doesn’t even exist to them? Shit I don't believe in Santa Clause but I don't slander him, because he is not real to me. Most of you guys just want a reaction out of people. Prayer is very real, I don’t have any proof that it is. But I have stories that I was actually a part of, but I’m sure you guys don’t want to hear my about my fantasy land. So I won’t go there.
How do you know Santa Clause isnt real? I am positive with my whole heart he is real, why do you bash people that believe in Santa Clause and say he isnt real!!!!!?

I dont have any proof he is real, I just know he is!

Now, how does that sound?




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JLMACN said:
In the words of your God...

"Throw a rock into a pack of wolves, and the first the howles, is the one that got hit"...

I wasnt bashing anyone imparticular, but yet you found a way to take my words and turn them against yourself. If the shoe fits, wear it and dont complain about the way it looks.
Don't act like you weren't trying to bash anyone c'mon cut that shit out man. This is very typical of you foo.
 
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#40
I dont like the theory or prayer...

I like the theory of meditation though.

Meditation seems like a form of becoming in-tune with YOURSELF, not asking someone that aint there for help and forgiveness of your bad actions.

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