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@Jim-Beam- There really is no issue of things with EDJ hes a fake cat that doesnt get life. I just had to show him for what he was thats all. I could really care less about half these idiots posts. I just speak real and he just sits back and plays game I dont play around like that.

@EDJ-You talk alot of shit for someone who never does anything but run off at the mouth. Your a punk and thats all there is to it. So Save THAT DRAMA FOR YOUR MAMA punk.

@-Already Dead-My lyrics have substance and you dont like that do you because your fake as well, damn all these people hate me because I speak the truth.

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IM MY SELF. MOST MY FRIENDS GROWING UP WERE BLACK OR MEXICAN, MY WIFE IS PUERTO RICAN, MY INFLUENCE GROWING UP WAS THE SAME AS THERES AND WAS INFLUENCED BY THEM. VISE VERSA.

I DONT SAY THE N WORD LOL. NEVER HAVE NEVER WILL. MY FOLKS SAY IT TO ME BUT I AINT THE TYPE TO JUST THROW IT BACK NA MEAN.


EVERYONE I KNOW EXCEPTS ME FOR WHO I AM. AND KNOWS I AINT TRYING TO BE SOMEONE OR SOMETHING IM NOT.

OTHER EPOPLE THAT DONT KNOW ME HATE ME A THINK THAT IM A WIGGER. THEN HATE THE FACT IM WITH A CHICK WHO LOOKS BLACK THEY HATE THE FACT I AINT DRESSED LIKE A SCATER AND THEY HATE THE FACT THAT I DONT TALK LIKE IM A SURFER OR LIKE IM FROM HARVERED.


ITS WHAT EVER THOUGH IVE BEEN JUMPED AND HAD MY ASS BEAT BY A GROUP OF PEOPLE PLENTY OF TIMES JUST CAUSE I AINT THE TIPICAL WHITE CAT.

I AM WHO I AM AND I AINT EVER GONNA CHANGE THAT SHIT.
 

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^DO WHAT YOU DO.

EPIDEMIC,
YOU gOT QUITE A PERCEPTION. BUT WHENEVA OUR PATHS CROSS, DO WHAT YOU gOTTA DO. WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE. AS OF NOW, JUST SHUT THE FUK UP AND IF I'M THAT ANNOYIN' THEN PUT ME ON IgNORE.
 
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EDJ said:
AIN'T NOBODY ACCUSSIN' YOUR MAMA AND ALL YOUR KINFOLK OF SHIT CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THEM PERSONALLY. BUT I DO KNOW THAT WHEN SHIT HIT THE FAN(LIKE THE O.J CASE) NIggAS WILL BE ASSUMED gUILTY OFF TOP AND THAT'S WHEN THE CLOSET SHIT COMES OUT.
Yes you are accusing my mother of something. When you say WHITE people are ignorant, and society see's my mother as a WHITE human, you are calling her ignorant. Everything you say about a WHITE human, you are saying to the entire race. O.J. is no different than any person standing trial for a case like that. Does O.J. assume a guilty position when standing trial, yes he does. The thing is, so does every other WHITE and BROWN man in this world. When you come out in shackles wearing a red jump-suit, you assume being guilty. You can't seem to see past this happening to African Americans, and realize that it happens to EVERYONE.

EDJ said:
THAT'S THE THANg, YOU ASSUMIN' BROTHAS WANT WHITE PARTICIPATION. BROTHAS NEED TO OWN THEY OWN, AND NOT DEPEND ON THE WHITE MAN FOR SHIT. THAT WAY THE WHITEMAN CAN'T TELL HIM SHIT. SELF SUFFICIENCY IS A MUST IN THIS DAY AND AgE.
I AGREE.

Im not assuming anything, im just reflecting on the only BLACK voices that can be heard from afar. You may not want help, but BLACK leaders in this country are pleading for help from WHITE'S, especially those in power. Im saying that it is not going to do any good, unless the WHITE man is willing to listen and participate. You were right when you said that this is, for the most part, something that African Americans need to take into their own hands. However in this process of doing everything yourself, rather then integrate our communities, you will resegregate them into seperate, possibly large geographical area. If you invest and build into your own business and hire BLACKS (which is not wrong) then eventually you are going to attract more BLACKS to that area. I wonder if, eventually this country is going to be completely seperated by color.

EDJ said:
I REMEMBER YOU SAID SOMETHIN' ALONg THOSE LINES. BUT THE THANg IS THAT YOU TRYIN' TO MAKE IT YOUR BUSINESS WHEN IT AIN'T. ALL YOU COULD DO IS HELP THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU. IF A MUTHA-FUKA DON'T WANT YOUR HELP THEN MOVE ON. IT'S LIKE THE SAYIN' gOES, "YOU CAN TAKE A HORSE TO THE WATER BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE THE MUTHA-FUKA DRINK IT". AND IN YOUR INSTANCE, WHAT COMMON gROUND DO YOU HAVE WITH THE BLAK MAN SO HE CAN SEE WHAT YOU TRYIN' TO DO? DOES HIS SELF RESPECT LET HIM AKNOWLEDgE YOUR gUIDANCE? WHAT VALIDATES THAT? YOU TRYIN' TO BASH IN THE PROBLEMS HE KNOWS EXIST WITH A SOLUTION THAT AIN'T FEASIBLE IN HIS DOME AND AIN'T gONNA BRINg RESULTS BUT SET YOU MORE APART.
BRILLIANT.

Your absolutely right. I don't hold much common ground with any BLACK man, which makes it hard for me to explain certain views of mine. I guess the only thing that a person in my position can offer an African American who knows nothing about me, is true insight on the WHITE mentality. Many young BLACK minds are influenced by speakers of their own culture, who often mislead them into believeing certain things about WHITE people that are simply not true. If Jesse Jackson would teach people that there is a difference between a WHITE man and a GERMAN AMERICAN, that would be one less thing I have to say. African Americans want "WHITE" people to stop looking at them as a THUG, GANGSTA, or a CRIMINAL, while I want BLACK people to stop looking at WHITE people as those who would make such stereotypes.

EDJ said:
SOMEBODY TRYIN' TO BRINg SOLUTIONS WITH CLOSET RACIST AND WHITE SUPREMIST VIEWS ARE QUESTIONABLE FROM JUMP CAUSE YOUR INTEgRITY IS IN QUESTION.
That is the problem. Thoughts of "Closet Racism" and "White Supremacy" are the BLACK reactions to a WHITE man speaking out on racial issues concerning African Americans. Racist? Nah man, far from it... If I didn't care so much about the African American culture, I wouldn't be typing this. Im not going to sit here, and listen to BLACK leaders, and say "OK" "YOUR RIGHT" "LETS DO IT" -- because a lot of these leaders are selfish, caring only about themselves and their position of power, telling every black man what he wants to hear.

EDJ said:
THEN WHY AIN'T THERE A BLAK CORPORATE STRUCTURE?
Because BLACKS are not investing properly. The biggest influence over the African American population are hip-hop artists, who send the message of smokin weed (large BLACK popluation in prisons), buying expensive material items (lack of investments), and sex (high STD rates amongst BLACKS); I can pick out a hundred different songs to back this up. Now please understand that this is not ALL of hip-hop, but a big portion of mainstream artists are sending these messages. You can't deny that BLACK people follow the trends set by entertainers in this industry. Everything from the spreewell rims to words like "THUR" are picked up and spread like a disease in these young minds. Now, there is nothing wrong, not in the slightest, with buying expensive things or picking up new slang, but when you have to ask a question that may or may not be DIRECTLY caused by these influences, you have to place some focus on it. If you can't stop the messages, maybe we can change the way people interpret them.

EDJ said:
WHY ARE A LOT OF BLAK MEN IN JAILS?
I really don't like that question, because I hate giving the answer that is so obvious. There are so many BLACK men in jail, because there are so many of them committing crimes. You need to dig to the root of the problem and ask why they feel they must commit those crimes.

When a black man robs a bank, you read in the tabloids "Isaac, a black man, robbed a bank today...". But the message that isn't being sent or taught is that Isaac robbed that bank because he couldn't find a job and his family barley had enough money to put food on the table. Does that justify robbing a bank? Certainly not, he should do the time. But if we want to stop crime, and slow the increasing BLACK prison population, we must go to the source.

Isaac must sell drugs because he has no money. He has no money because he can't get a job. He can't get a job because he has no education. He has no education--WHY?

EDJ said:
WHY ARE gHETTOS STILL IN EXISTENCE?
Because there is a lack of money circulating throughout the city. If you slap a brand new grocery store in the heart of compton (opportunity) the question becomes, is Jack going to rob it, or put in an application. You must prepare the minds of those in the ghetto before you can restore it. The people living in these ghetto's must WANT to break free from the poverty the plagues it. Is Jack going to stop selling drugs, and make 1/3 of what he was making, by working legally in a grocery store? In order to change the poverty situation it takes two parts.

1. The people who inhabit the ghettos must be willing and ready for change.
2. The people who have the power to change, must take advantage and build anew.
 
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I'll add:

I read another study on African Immigrants and economic success. A "black" person from the Caribbeans, (identifies black) or from the mainstream continent of Africa is likely to hold more jobs than an American black person, (2 on average), is likely to spend less money on frills and entertainment, and is more likely to send their kids to college.

I first wondered about this when i met my girl's friend Mysaqwe (Damn I can't even pronounce the name) from Kenya. Her folks came here broke, but busted their ass, and continue to bust their ass workin to put their family in a nice house in a good neighborhood and put her though college.

Remember the "In Living Color" skits about Jamaicans with 30 jobs? Ever watch Comic View, the way they make fun of white people who try to overachieve at work?

She gets the same shit from black people 1. cause she dresses like a skater sometimes 2. she uses proper english, some slang, but mostly speaks in an intelligent manner, and 3. busts her ass at work. The black girls at her work straight up hate her because she makes them look bad.

Walkin down the street with me, her, and my girl who is mixed, black folks will straight up be like "Oh look at her, oh you better than us huh" oh this and that bla bla just goin on, and she is straight up black. Midnight dark skin, very african features, tall as fuck, etc. It ain't like she could be called high yellow or some shit.

Anyways she will turn around and be like "you know what mothafucka I am better than you, I do my job, I go to school, I handle my shit."

And she does...the girl don't fuck around. She gets nothing but shit for this. Constant shit. Crabs in a bucket. It's true, half the time when black people work hard, speak proper english, don't wear FUBU, etc., other black people will jump on them, calling them whitewashed and whatever.

How many times have u seen black women in six hundred dollar outfits drivin a one thousand dollar car? You can't tell me when you spend so much of your money on entertainment that you are being beat down back to the ghetto.

No white man forces grown black men to get 20 inch rims, or Sean John sweatsuits, Gucci glasses and LV bags for the females. No white person forces black people to drop out of college. No white person forces black people to be half-ass workers on purpose.

My old manager who was Mex used to have to fire black employees all the fuckin time. Either from getting in fights with customers, comin in late over and over again, being rude as fuck to customers, or refusing to help out until the head manager comes and suggests it. "Oh that's not in my job description." Ok, whatever. Compare this with the "geeky white people" who are like "Ok, sir, lemme help you with that..." Or to a coworker like "oh you need help...ok".

My manager used to be like (not in front of no black people but) "Damn do you wanna be black, or do you wanna work here?" And that statement has some truth to it, unfortunately. What would happen if the U.S. government gave 1 in 5 black people 20,000 dollars? Where would it go? How much would be invested, or used as a down payment for say, a house, or to pay off debt, or to purchase a small business, or a stake in a financial institution?

White racism accounts for most of the black situation today, probably 90, 95 percent. White people don't force black folks to spend money on entertainment, or do a half ass job at work and still expect employment, promotions, etc. I bet you almost all white people here who have ever worked at a job knew at least one black person who either didn't try at all or did a half ass job, yet got promoted above them, or didn't get fired.
Yet we go by the white standard, we are reprimanded even sometimes fired for the shit we do that is less than that of most of the black employees. Even my old work, that was very racially mixed, mostly Mexican, got investigated because of their policy of firing black people often. My manager himself was like "I don't give a fuck what race you are, you work, or you be held accountable."

The higher-ups had a talk with him, and so, we hired some more black employees. And guess what? They did a shitty ass job. Am I racist for saying this? No. It's exactly what happened.

And even if wanna say white racism accounts for all of it, that doesn't help the black race today. What is going to be necssary is a mentality of change within the community. This is going to be the first milestone. Black folks who don't challenge white people with white guilt or blame their situation on their actions are the ones who are most respected by white people, simply because many black folks who want payouts are in the same mentality of the workers at my old work. They want it, they don't wanna work for it or reach for it.

It's like the ghetto is in your head, and it ain't leavin. You have to mentally leave poverty before it works out in real life. Clockin in at 9:05 and leavin at 3:50, and workin just hard enough that you don't get fired is ghetto. Buyin Air Jordans when you work at McDonalds is ghetto. Havin 16 kids is ghetto. Unless you can get past this, you ain't goin anywhere. Work hard, and people will see and appreciate that. Ten dollars earned goes farther than one hundred dollars recieved, because it's about character and personal drive.

A man who had to claw his way up to the top of the mountain is going to appreciate the view. A man who is lifted up by a crane, in a ez chair, watchin a TV and set on top won't give a fuck. White America recognizes this, that money or support without direction will just fizzle out. A river with no banks is a pond. And right now, black america for the most part is not taking direction.
 
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Of course. I'm not sayin all black people are lazy.

Even you know the concept of

1. "the black dollar"-needed money going to useless expenditures.

2. "the ghetto-inspired work ethic" Doing just enough not to get fired. I am not saying all black people are lazy in this way. But a good amount of black people from disadvantaged situations have this similar work characteristic. You can't really deny or sugarcoat that...anyone who has been in a position to observe multiple racial demographics at work notes this. It just isn't said out loud.

3. Not stopping pregnancy. Having more children than your means can support. Self-explanatory.

4. Not taking advantage of low-cost and free community resources such as Adult Education, Community College, Scholarships, etc. Many black people know of these options, and many simply don't take advantage for one reason or another.

Regardless of the prevalence or power of white racism, there are variables in the equation that black people can change. And just as you said, black folks have to be self-reliant, these are the obstacles to self-reliance. I could be the most racist motherfucker ever, but there are still some things that are in the hands of people in disaffected situations.

If you don't agree with this, and white racism and only white racism is the 100 percent cause of the black problems in America, then places like San Francisco, which is very forward-minded and progressive, would have half the percentage of poor black people then say a place in Alabama with a racist white population. But the reality is the percentage of inner-city poverty in proportion to black people is not extremely different in different places.

And just as socially and economically successful black families exist from Coast to Coast, under every circumstance and in every environment, the steps which black folks can take to better themselves are basically the same across the board.
 

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NITRO THE gURU,
YOU STRESSED, "Yes you are accusing my mother of something. When you say WHITE people are ignorant, and society see's my mother as a WHITE human, you are calling her ignorant. Everything you say about a WHITE human, you are saying to the entire race. O.J. is no different than any person standing trial for a case like that. Does O.J. assume a guilty position when standing trial, yes he does. The thing is, so does every other WHITE and BROWN man in this world. When you come out in shackles wearing a red jump-suit, you assume being guilty. You can't seem to see past this happening to African Americans, and realize that it happens to EVERYONE."

I DID NOT SAY "ALL" WHITE PEOPLE ARE IgNORANT. HELL, I DIDN'T EVEN SAY WHITE PEOPLE WAS IgNORANT AT ALL. I DON'T KNOW EVERY WHITE PERSON IN THIS WORLD. SO DON'T TRY TO BREAK IT ON DOWN LIKE I'M TRYIN' TO BELITTLE YOUR PEOPLE. ASK WHAT I MEANT IN THE INSTANCE THAT I STRESSED IT WITH THE WORDS I USED.
AND THAT'S BULLSHIT ABOUT O.J AND N-E OTHA PERSON OF COLOR. THE LAW STATES THAT YOU'RE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN gUILTY BUT LIFE AND ACTUALITY DONE SHOWED US DIFFERENT. YOU'RE gUILTY TIL PROVEN INNOCENT. IF O.J WAS WHITE HE WOULDN'T OF WENT THRU ALL THAT HE WENT THRU. THAT'S JUST HOW THIS SOCIETY IS SET UP. HE LUKY HE HAD MONEY, OR HE WOULD'VE BEEN IN A HOLE THAT HE COULDN'T OF gOT OUT OF. AND WHAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE A HARD TIME DEALIN' WITH IS THAT HE gOT OFF CAUSE OF HIS SCRILL AND HE SET THE TONE FOR OTHAS TO SEE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Im not assuming anything, im just reflecting on the only BLACK voices that can be heard from afar. You may not want help, but BLACK leaders in this country are pleading for help from WHITE'S, especially those in power. Im saying that it is not going to do any good, unless the WHITE man is willing to listen and participate. You were right when you said that this is, for the most part, something that African Americans need to take into their own hands. However in this process of doing everything yourself, rather then integrate our communities, you will resegregate them into seperate, possibly large geographical area. If you invest and build into your own business and hire BLACKS (which is not wrong) then eventually you are going to attract more BLACKS to that area. I wonder if, eventually this country is going to be completely seperated by color."

THAT'S WHY THESE BUBBLE gUM LEADERS ARE A JOKE. WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU SEEN A BLAK LEADER ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE? AND IT AIN'T LIKE BROTHAS NEED A LEADER. WE NEED PEOPLE TO SHOW INSTEAD OF TALK. WE NEED SOMEONE TO SHOW THE WAY, TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE. AND IN THE PROCESS IF THANgS RESEgREgATE, THAN IT IS WHAT IT IS. I AIN'T SAYIN' INTEgRATION IS A BAD THANg, I'M STRESSIN' THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT SELF AND LEARN TO INTERACT BETTER BEFORE WE INTERACT WITH OTHAS AND HATE "US".

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Your absolutely right. I don't hold much common ground with any BLACK man, which makes it hard for me to explain certain views of mine. I guess the only thing that a person in my position can offer an African American who knows nothing about me, is true insight on the WHITE mentality. Many young BLACK minds are influenced by speakers of their own culture, who often mislead them into believeing certain things about WHITE people that are simply not true. If Jesse Jackson would teach people that there is a difference between a WHITE man and a GERMAN AMERICAN, that would be one less thing I have to say. African Americans want "WHITE" people to stop looking at them as a THUG, GANGSTA, or a CRIMINAL, while I want BLACK people to stop looking at WHITE people as those who would make such stereotypes."

WHAT IS THIS WHITE MENTALITY YOU SPEAK ABOUT? AND KNOWIN' THE DIFFERENCES OF THE WHITE CULTURES/SUBCULTURES IS IRRELEVANT CAUSE WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, IT'S ALL THE SAME FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. IT AIN'T LIKE I'M gONNA INDULgE IN SUCH. IT'S LIKE WHAT SOLO SPOKE ON. EVERY ANgLO CULTURE THAT CAME TO AMERIKKKA gOT THAT WHITE SUPREMACIST ATTITUDE AND LOgIC AFTERWARD. AND FOR THE MOST PART, MOST WHITE PEOPLE HAVE NEgATIVE STEREOTYPES ABOUT BLAK FOLK. THAT CAN'T BE DENIED. IF IT AIN'T BEHIND THEY BAK, IT'S IN THE CLOSET.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "That is the problem. Thoughts of "Closet Racism" and "White Supremacy" are the BLACK reactions to a WHITE man speaking out on racial issues concerning African Americans. Racist? Nah man, far from it... If I didn't care so much about the African American culture, I wouldn't be typing this. Im not going to sit here, and listen to BLACK leaders, and say "OK" "YOUR RIGHT" "LETS DO IT" -- because a lot of these leaders are selfish, caring only about themselves and their position of power, telling every black man what he wants to hear."

THAT'S THE THANg, YOUR INTEgRITY IS IN QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOUR MIND SET IS ON. ALL I COULD DO IS CALL IT LIKE I SEE IT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Because BLACKS are not investing properly. The biggest influence over the African American population are hip-hop artists, who send the message of smokin weed (large BLACK popluation in prisons), buying expensive material items (lack of investments), and sex (high STD rates amongst BLACKS); I can pick out a hundred different songs to back this up. Now please understand that this is not ALL of hip-hop, but a big portion of mainstream artists are sending these messages. You can't deny that BLACK people follow the trends set by entertainers in this industry. Everything from the spreewell rims to words like "THUR" are picked up and spread like a disease in these young minds. Now, there is nothing wrong, not in the slightest, with buying expensive things or picking up new slang, but when you have to ask a question that may or may not be DIRECTLY caused by these influences, you have to place some focus on it. If you can't stop the messages, maybe we can change the way people interpret them."

THE MEDIA IS A BIg PROBLEM. T.V TEACHES YOUNgSTAS SHIT WHILE PARENTS DON'T DEDICATE TIME. AND IN THE BLAK COMMUNITY, THE SHIT INTENSIFIES CAUSE OF FUCCED OFF FAMILY STRUCTURES, FUCCED OFF ENVIRONMENTS, AND OTHA SHIT THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE CYCLES WE LIVE AND DEAL WITH. BUT I DO AgREE WITH THE MESSAgES AND INTERPRETATION OF SUCH.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I really don't like that question, because I hate giving the answer that is so obvious. There are so many BLACK men in jail, because there are so many of them committing crimes. You need to dig to the root of the problem and ask why they feel they must commit those crimes."

NOT ONLY THAT, BUT BIAS LAWS ARE MADE. LOOK AT THE LEgISLATORS. IT'S EASIER TO MAKE BIAS LAWS AND gET FOO'S OFF THE STREET THEN TO DEDICATE TIME TO UNDA-STAND THE CIRCUMSTANCES. MUTHA-FUKAS WOULD RATHER INVEST MONEY IN PRISONS(PRIVATE CORPORATIONS AT THAT) THEN TO BUILD SCHOOLS AND PAY TEACHERS MORE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "When a black man robs a bank, you read in the tabloids "Isaac, a black man, robbed a bank today...". But the message that isn't being sent or taught is that Isaac robbed that bank because he couldn't find a job and his family barley had enough money to put food on the table. Does that justify robbing a bank? Certainly not, he should do the time. But if we want to stop crime, and slow the increasing BLACK prison population, we must go to the source."

YES WE DO.

Isaac must sell drugs because he has no money. He has no money because he can't get a job. He can't get a job because he has no education. He has no education--WHY?"

THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN A LOT OF INSTANCES. WHAT IF I DO HAVE THE EDUCATION? DOES THAT MEAN I HAVE A JOB? DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY gIVE ME A JOB? FIFTY-FIRST OF ALL, THE OPPORTUNITIES HAVE TO BE THERE. XCONDLY, THE WILL TO WORK HAS TO BE THERE. IT'S NOT ABOUT A DEgREE BUT ABOUT YOUR HUSTLE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Because there is a lack of money circulating throughout the city. If you slap a brand new grocery store in the heart of compton (opportunity) the question becomes, is Jack going to rob it, or put in an application. You must prepare the minds of those in the ghetto before you can restore it. The people living in these ghetto's must WANT to break free from the poverty the plagues it. Is Jack going to stop selling drugs, and make 1/3 of what he was making, by working legally in a grocery store? In order to change the poverty situation it takes two parts.

1. The people who inhabit the ghettos must be willing and ready for change.
2. The people who have the power to change, must take advantage and build anew."

THAT'S IF YOU WANNA REBUILD THE gHETTO. MOST PEOPLE gET OUT CAUSE SITUATIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES ARE CREATED THAT OVERWHELM THE ENVIRONMENT, AND IF YOU STAY, YOU WILL gET SUCCED IN. BUT IF THE OPPORTUNITIES EXIST THEN THE SITUATIONS CHANgE, gRADUALLY.
 

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ALREADY DEAD,

THEM FOUR THANgS AIN'T gENERAL KNOWLEDgE OF THE PROBLEMS. IT AIN'T THAT EASY TO JUST LABEL SHIT AND FIgURE THAT IT HAPPENS IN ALL BLAK COMMUNITIES.

EVERY SITUATION IS DIFFERENT.
 
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Of course it is an extremely multi-faceted and complex issue. One solution, idea, viewpoint, etc., is not gonna solve or even explain everyone's problems.

The thing I would like to stress, though, is those choices/factors are often very relevant to the situation of lower-class African Americans today.

Of course all black problems aren't going to be reduced to or explained by a list of 4 points.

It is my belief, though, that those are large variables in the equation, variables people are able to change or exercise control over.

Are you saying then, that if the Black community was on point in all 4 of those cases nothing at all would change? The situation would not imrpove?
 
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I'm not sayin shit would be one hundred percent coo, but there would be a big difference in the current state of black America.

Yea, our shit is fucked up, but it could be worse. Aside from a few European nations, ain't no better place to live than America, financially, politically, technologically one of the most advanced and propsperous countries in the world.

Racism exists here, but if there is any place to succeed regardless, it is the US...

The average black man today is farther away from the white man financially than back in 1963 when the civil rights laws were passed.

White racism has decreased since then...no two ways about it. You never see no mothafucka sayin "nigger" or "negro" on TV or radio. Racist hostility out in the open is all but dead, except in some backwoods ass places like Idaho.

Black people now play a large role in TV, radio, government, and media in general. Regardless of the fact that black ownership of large media networks and conglomerates is basically nonexistent, black culture is shaping up to be a powerful force in our society, whether in mainstream cultural influence or more specifized sectors such as hip-hop/r&b.

As far as media and government clout goes, black people hold more power overall than Latinos, who actually are a larger minority. Interracial dating is nothing like the scandal it once was. The black man white america once feared is now golfing, passing bills, dating our daughters, giving political commentary, and running companies. (The rate of Black CEOs is on a rise)

If any time is the time for Black people to seize opportunities, it is now, and much more can be achieved through self-realization than calling on white america or pointing at the ghetto going "look at this, look at this". The rest of the US knows the situation, but they need evidence that funds, monies, reperation payments, etc. will go to good use.
 
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Posted by EDJ
THAT'S WHY THESE BUBBLE gUM LEADERS ARE A JOKE. WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU SEEN A BLAK LEADER ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE? AND IT AIN'T LIKE BROTHAS NEED A LEADER. WE NEED PEOPLE TO SHOW INSTEAD OF TALK. WE NEED SOMEONE TO SHOW THE WAY, TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE. AND IN THE PROCESS IF THANgS RESEgREgATE, THAN IT IS WHAT IT IS. I AIN'T SAYIN' INTEgRATION IS A BAD THANg, I'M STRESSIN' THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT SELF AND LEARN TO INTERACT BETTER BEFORE WE INTERACT WITH OTHAS AND HATE "US".
I agree with this 110 percent. Sharpton, especially Jackson, are both extremely insufficient leaders. Jackson has been called on multiple grounds including fraud, character issues, and using his Rainbow coalition to pressure money into his own pocket.

He's basically just an ambulance chaser for racism. When he hears of a situation, he flies out, organizes a march, and basks in the spotlight, without affecting any real change. EVeryone sees this "Civil Rights Leader Jesse Jackson" in the headlines, but they ignore the actual story.

When was the last time Jackson or Sharpton took one solid issue and ran with it? Never. They basically go with whatever cause will advance them at the time.
 

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CANADA SOUND LIKE A COO' PLACE.

BUT TELL ME THIS ALREADY DEAD,
YOU INITIALLY MADE YOUR CHOICE TO BE IN THE ARYAN BROTHAHOOD IF YOU WERE TO BE LOCCED UP FOR SECURITY REASONS. WHO WOULD YOU TALK TO ABOUT THIS SHIT IN THE CLINK?
 
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Theres a whole different atmosphere out in Canada. Not alot of racism if any, little or no crime, etc.

And who would I talk to? Nobody from AB, shit. From what I gathered, gang membership is not always the only option. I'd go with the shit as a last resort. If there was a non racist white gang then whatever but I'm not gonna hop skip and jump to the Brotherhood automatically...lmao

Way I see it I ain't no chester, probly won't be no rapist, I got size on my side and shit and Ill sqwab all day so I'm not worried. The pinta ain't no place I'm tryin to go anyways, so the shit don't really bother me.