de la hoya vs Pacquiao, Dec. 6th [official]
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What the fuck does a pedigree have to do with fighting an un-winnable fight ?
Its the responsibility of a fighter's corner, more than anyone else to protect their fighter. Their responsibility is greater than the ref, the ringside physician, and even the fighter himself.
There was absolutely no reason to continue the fight, and if you know anything about boxing, you'll know the key to longevity is minimizing the physical damage you take in every and any fight.
You're implying that the valiant thing to do for Oscar and his corner was to continue fighting, and risk possible brain damage and other life altering injuries, to satisfy the need of some punk ass joe schmoe ass fan who thinks that Oscar should have been a 'man' and kept fighting...
Until when ?
Until he gets put in a coma from head injuries...?
Until the orbital bones in his face are broken, and beyond repair and loses his vision for life ?
Fuck that. He'll fight again because of his decision, and nothing should be taken from him.
Every great fighter takes a loss. The smart thing to do is to know when you've lost and be able to swallow your pride and accept that
Look at Freddie Roach for example; suffering from Parkinson's disease from taking all these blows to the head, and now he's got to live with that for the rest of his life.
Professional boxing is a very short career, and the time in a fighter's life after boxing is far longer and more important than losing a fight.
are you smoking rocks? longevity?
We are talking about OSCAR right? your talking like he just came in the game,dude is, if not,at the END of his career.
Comas for head injuries? Were we watching the same fight? Manny might have caused a coma if Oscar continued the last rounds? are you serious?
"theres absolutley no reason to finish the fight"
LMAO. I can think of two good reasons to finish it.there called BALLS.maybe one day you can grow a pair and understand where me and Tony are coming from.Its one thing to take a Loss,eveybody in the sport of boxing will take 'em.its how you do it is what fans respect.PERIOD.your boy showed no heart and this aint like the first time he has done this.save me this bullshit "he was doing it cause he didnt wanna risk further injury".He was out for the Pay Day it amazes me how naive you are not to see that
^^payday wasn't the only reason oscar took the fight. There is no doubt he trained very hard (made it to 145 pounds should tell you that), took the fight very seriously (highering legendary trainers Nacho and Dundee) and wanted to win badly (because oscar wanted more then anything to set up a match with Ricky Hatton).
Now I am beginning to think that maybe Oscar quit against Bernard Hopkins too.... I know it was a wicked body shot but I don't know now. At first, I was like there's no way he could have continued but now I question "could Oscar have continued". I mean it was a delayed reaction right? He just went down without trying to hold/clinch or anything... that's what fighters who are in trouble usually do.... they'll clinch until they recover.
I agree with 45park1904 it looks like Oscar was just out to take folks money man. He said he was going to "knock" Pacman out (to sell the fight to as many people as he can) and at the end of the fight it looked like Pacman wasn't even touched.... and for Oscar not to come out and not to "protest" his corners decision to stop the fight just confirms that Oscar quit and didn't show any kind of heart. He could have at least continued for the folks who coughed up the $54.99 to order the fight.
I agree with 45park1904 it looks like Oscar was just out to take folks money man. He said he was going to "knock" Pacman out (to sell the fight to as many people as he can) and at the end of the fight it looked like Pacman wasn't even touched.... and for Oscar not to come out and not to "protest" his corners decision to stop the fight just confirms that Oscar quit and didn't show any kind of heart. He could have at least continued for the folks who coughed up the $54.99 to order the fight.
I BEEN SAYING THIS ALL ALONG....ANYBODY WHO TAKES A LIVER SHOT LIKE THAT IS PRETTY MUCH NOT MOVING FOR A LITTLE WHILE, THAT SHITS LIKE A PINCHED NERVE THAT WONT LET YOU MOVE ANY OF YOUR BODY....OSCAR WAS FLOPPIN AROUND THE RING LIKE A FISH, GETTING ON HIS KNEES AND BEATING HIS GLOVES ON THE MAT LIKE A CHILD AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER WILD SHIT(I KNOW SOMEBODY GOT THE GIF OR A VIDEO)....PRIOR TO THAT FIGHT NOBODY HAD EVER TOUCHED UP HIS FACE LIKE B-HOP DID THE ROUNDS BEFORE HE WENT DOWN LIKE A WOMAN..HE KNEW IF HE CONTINUED HE WAS GONNA GET HIS ASS KNOCKED OUT SO HE TOOK EASY WAY OUT.....
I'm not talking about Oscar in particular. But if every fighter thought the way you and Tony do, there wouldn't be these fighters with these long illustrious careers.
You're basically saying that a fighter should continue to take a brutal beating for the sake of his 'BALLS'
Like I said, it was his corner who made the decision, and its their job to override when a fighter chooses to have these 'BALLS' you speak of. So even if Oscar wanted to continue, they wouldn't have let them.
Did you see the fight ?
Who threw in the towel ? It sure as hell wasn't Oscar, though he didn't disagree with it either.
Google Duk Koo Kim and Ray Mancini and see why the argument you and Tony are making is idiotic !
And any fighter who steps into the ring has 'BALLS' mayne. Not just the ones who are too dumb to know when to stop while they're ahead.
You're basically saying that a fighter should continue to take a brutal beating for the sake of his 'BALLS'
Like I said, it was his corner who made the decision, and its their job to override when a fighter chooses to have these 'BALLS' you speak of. So even if Oscar wanted to continue, they wouldn't have let them.
Did you see the fight ?
Who threw in the towel ? It sure as hell wasn't Oscar, though he didn't disagree with it either.
Google Duk Koo Kim and Ray Mancini and see why the argument you and Tony are making is idiotic !
And any fighter who steps into the ring has 'BALLS' mayne. Not just the ones who are too dumb to know when to stop while they're ahead.
there is no shame in throwing the towel if you're getting your ass handed to you. I mean being Macho and brave is one thing, being stupid is another. Now I'm not saying Oscar would have died or got brain damaged, but I think it's clear he had absolutely nothing left and his corner made the right decision. He didn't even have a punchers chance and was definitely on the verge of being knocked out. However I do think he could have continued another round...maybe (lol I just wanted to see oscar get knocked down tbh)
Has everyone seen the Cotto/Margarito fight. Do you think what Cotto did was cowardly? I certainly don't because he had absolutely nothing left and he lives to fight another day and avenge his loss. Nothing wrong with that imo.
Has everyone seen the Cotto/Margarito fight. Do you think what Cotto did was cowardly? I certainly don't because he had absolutely nothing left and he lives to fight another day and avenge his loss. Nothing wrong with that imo.
Well where's Bernard Hopkins when you need him? Have you see what Bernard has said about McNabb?
Man we're not looking idiotic by saying "Oscar" robbed or conned folks which he did. RIP to Duk Koo Kim but did he sell the fight like Oscar did? We're not saying Oscar should have gotten whipped til he died, but he should have shown more heart by going for the knockout and giving fight fans their money worth. Did he even try to "knock" Pacman out like he said during the 24/7 series?
Man we're not looking idiotic by saying "Oscar" robbed or conned folks which he did. RIP to Duk Koo Kim but did he sell the fight like Oscar did? We're not saying Oscar should have gotten whipped til he died, but he should have shown more heart by going for the knockout and giving fight fans their money worth. Did he even try to "knock" Pacman out like he said during the 24/7 series?
But come on man this is the "Golden" Boy who has fought Sugar Shane, Trinidad, Quartey, Hopkins, I mean he's been in there with much heavier punchers than Pacquio. I don't think Oscar had to quit man.... he should have went for the knockout like a real champ but he quit on his stool like a chump.
Yeah I seen the Margarito/Cotto fight... now Cotto went out like a warrior compared to De La Hoya.
Yeah I seen the Margarito/Cotto fight... now Cotto went out like a warrior compared to De La Hoya.
