Boxing schedule for the month of June

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2-0-Sixx said:
not now, in a year or two. I would always favor gamboa over anyone, you know that, but garcia IS very good and his potential is great.
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Yeah I know I was just fucking around with that. Garcia could probably compete with Gamboa even now. He's not very flashy but he's all around solid and can punch.




And yes, those are the rounds zbik won. There were other rounds when his punches weren't doing shit or were too far and in between and chavez's pure effective aggressiveness was winning him rounds.
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That's the thing I just didn't see 7 of those rounds with EFFECTIVE aggressiveness, just aggressiveness. Sure he did good body work but I just didn't see Zbik bothered by the punches as much as people would like to make it seem.


zbik fucked up by fighting chavez toe to toe in the later rounds and fighting julio's fight. if he kept doing what he was doing he would have pulled it off.
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I agree with he should've kept doing what he was doing but I thought he did enough to pull it off.



I really don't know why I'm even arguing I don't even like chavez and I think he's going to lose to Cotto (which is almost a done deal for October) or anyone else that is decent but I'm stating how I saw the fight. Close fight could have gone either way.
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Because what else is there to argue about? Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao in As The World Turns? It was a close fight I didn't think Zbik ran away with it but I find it much easier to give Zbik 7 rounds than JCC Jr. I'm not disgusted by the decision at all just don't agree with it.
 
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June 17
At Austin, Texas (ESPN2): Fernando Guerrero vs. TBA, 10 rounds, middleweights; Karim Mayfield vs. Steve Forbes, 10 rounds, welterweights

If anyone follows Guerrero, he's actually dropping down to LMW for the first time and fighting Grady Brewer on this card. Guerrero's looked pretty good at MW, hopefully he impresses against Brewer and gets moving towards a title shot.
 
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richard schaefer said they wanted to make the "best undercard ever!" for the floyd-ortiz fight but I seriously doubt they'll put canelo on the card because for one, he makes a lot of money and with Floyd taking 99% of the profit I doubt they could afford him and two they can headline canelo in california or mexico or even vegas and make a lot of money just off him so business wise I don't think they would do that.
 
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yup the only reason we bought the floyd vs moseley ppv cuz of canelo and the floyd vs marquez cuz of marquez,de la hoya vs floyd cuz of de la hoya and ......floyd a fucken phony give him a joshua clotey and a weak undercard lets see how much ppv he sell. he cant fight twice a year and do 1million plus ppvs everytime like manny....gotz to see it to belive it...oh and void cant even sell out the fucken arenas lol
 
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naner12 said:
June 17
At Austin, Texas (ESPN2): Fernando Guerrero vs. TBA, 10 rounds, middleweights; Karim Mayfield vs. Steve Forbes, 10 rounds, welterweights

If anyone follows Guerrero, he's actually dropping down to LMW for the first time and fighting Grady Brewer on this card. Guerrero's looked pretty good at MW, hopefully he impresses against Brewer and gets moving towards a title shot.
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that's a solid fight & card. And I like Guerrero better at 154, I have a feeling he'll be more powerful there. Brewer could give him some problems he's a solid vet. I remember him giving Lara some issues.
 
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Pirog's Promoter: 9 Months We've Tried To Get Martinez

Banner Promotions President Art Pelullo said, “I understand that Sergio Martinez is going to be fighting Darren Barker on October 1. I have known Lou DiBella, Martinez’ promoter, for over 20 years and we are personal friends. I have been in the fight business for over 25 years and I know how the business works.

“The Martinez camp never spoke to me about Dmitry Pirog. Clearly, they have no interest in the fight because it is a very dangerous fight for Martinez.

“I have been trying to make the Martinez fight for over nine months. I have talked to Lou, I have talked to Kery Davis, and I sent several emails to Ross Greenburg and Kery Davis about the fight.

“Dmitry is one of the top three middleweights in the world and had a spectacular knockout victory over Danny Jacobs last July to win the WBO middleweight world title. It seems like he’s being punished for winning.

“I have consistently told HBO over the last 11 months that Dmitry is ready, willing and able right now to fight anybody – incuding Sergio Martinez. We are quite sincere. Dmitry wants to come to America and fight the best fighters in the world.”
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Pirog's Promoter: 9 Months We've Tried To Get Martinez

Banner Promotions President Art Pelullo said, “I understand that Sergio Martinez is going to be fighting Darren Barker on October 1. I have known Lou DiBella, Martinez’ promoter, for over 20 years and we are personal friends. I have been in the fight business for over 25 years and I know how the business works.

“The Martinez camp never spoke to me about Dmitry Pirog. Clearly, they have no interest in the fight because it is a very dangerous fight for Martinez.

“I have been trying to make the Martinez fight for over nine months. I have talked to Lou, I have talked to Kery Davis, and I sent several emails to Ross Greenburg and Kery Davis about the fight.

“Dmitry is one of the top three middleweights in the world and had a spectacular knockout victory over Danny Jacobs last July to win the WBO middleweight world title. It seems like he’s being punished for winning.

“I have consistently told HBO over the last 11 months that Dmitry is ready, willing and able right now to fight anybody – incuding Sergio Martinez. We are quite sincere. Dmitry wants to come to America and fight the best fighters in the world.”
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Dmitry looked like crap in his last fight. He just needs to stay busy, put on great preformacnes in the ring, and the big fights will come to him.
 
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I have no idea who Darren Barker is, I see this as a wasted fight for Sergio Martinez. But what does Dmitry bring to the table? He brings nothing at all to the table for Martinez he's just like Barker no one knows him. Dmitry needs to stay busy and let his prefornances make the fight for him.
 
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See that belt around his waist? He brings a unification bout.



Sergio Martinez could pick up that belt, along with the Ring belt he currently has, instead of constantly getting fucked in the ass by the WBC, who stripped him of his WBC 154 pound title with the reasoning of 'this isn't the henry armstrong era, you can only be champion in one weight class, not two, choose one' then as a gift they stripped him of his WBC 160 pound title, in which they handed over to julio cesar chavez jr. who they promised martinez would get a crack at and in the mean time they gave martinez the worthless "diamond belt.' Of course after Chavez beat Zbik, Martinez then elected to fight Chavez and the WBC told him, 'not right now.'

LOL. So like I said, martinez can continue getting dicked around by the WBC who obviously are protecting Chavez jr. and want to feed him bum after bum (talk is his next opponent will be Peter Manfredo), or he can go a head and pick up another belt and try to get bigger and better fights.

No brainer imo.

Martinez is also currently the #2 pound 4 pound fighter in the world. IMO this is not what is expected from the #2 fighter in the world. I would understand if he was fighting a lower ranked guy if that guy had a big name and it was a big money fight, but it's darren fuckin barker lol.
 
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man, that was meant to be posted in the 'boxing thread.' my bad on the fuck up.

Anyways, highly touted and quickly rising prospect Austin Trout fought the other day (I didn't see it but read he wasn't too impressive and should have been knocked down late in the fight (ref ruled a slip)) but maybe this is why:




Sources: Austin Trout Fails His Post-Fight Drug Test

By Rick Reeno

BoxingScene.com has been advised by several strong Mexican sources that WBA "regular" junior middleweight champion Austin Trout (23-0, 13KOs) failed a post-fight drug test for last Saturday's fight with David "Destroyer" Lopez (40-13, 23KOs). Trout won a twelve round decision over Lopez in San Luis Potosi, Mexico.

Reportedly, Trout tested positive for marijuana. The fight is likely going to end up as a no-contest. I've heard Lopez's promoter, Hector Garcia, is in the process of sending a letter to the WBA to request an immediate rematch and/or Trout being stripped and Lopez getting a direct shot for the vacant title.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
See that belt around his waist? He brings a unification bout.



Sergio Martinez could pick up that belt, along with the Ring belt he currently has, instead of constantly getting fucked in the ass by the WBC, who stripped him of his WBC 154 pound title with the reasoning of 'this isn't the henry armstrong era, you can only be champion in one weight class, not two, choose one' then as a gift they stripped him of his WBC 160 pound title, in which they handed over to julio cesar chavez jr. who they promised martinez would get a crack at and in the mean time they gave martinez the worthless "diamond belt.' Of course after Chavez beat Zbik, Martinez then elected to fight Chavez and the WBC told him, 'not right now.'

LOL. So like I said, martinez can continue getting dicked around by the WBC who obviously are protecting Chavez jr. and want to feed him bum after bum (talk is his next opponent will be Peter Manfredo), or he can go a head and pick up another belt and try to get bigger and better fights.

No brainer imo.

Martinez is also currently the #2 pound 4 pound fighter in the world. IMO this is not what is expected from the #2 fighter in the world. I would understand if he was fighting a lower ranked guy if that guy had a big name and it was a big money fight, but it's darren fuckin barker lol.
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Titles don't matter big money fights matter. There are no big money fights at Middle weight. Strum is not big in the US and he's fine with fighting bums in Germany, and Chavez Jr will fight nothing but bums. Martinez needs to move to 168lb, if he wants a big money fight. He's too big for Manny and Mayweather so he needs to stop chasing those fights.
 
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how is fighting Darren Barker going to lead to big money fights though? The ratings on HBO will be shit. At the very least by winning the WBO title he could get mandatory fights that the WBO would actually enforce, unlike the WBC who obviously aren't doing him any favors nor are they following their own rules.

Unifying the belts will also force big money fights, just like Bernard Hopkins had to do. Hopkins couldn't get big money fights so what did he do? Collect all the belts so he had to be dealt with.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
how is fighting Darren Barker going to lead to big money fights though? The ratings on HBO will be shit. At the very least by winning the WBO title he could get mandatory fights that the WBO would actually enforce, unlike the WBC who obviously aren't doing him any favors nor are they following their own rules.

Unifying the belts will also force big money fights, just like Bernard Hopkins had to do. Hopkins couldn't get big money fights so what did he do? Collect all the belts so he had to be dealt with.
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Maybe you forgot what said to begin with Darren Barker is a waste of Martinez's time. Unifying the 160 belts means nothing. If Martinez wants a big fight he better move up 8 pounds to get it at 168lb. B-Hop is 175lb no way in the world he can make 160 again. Strum and Chavez Jr are the big 160lb fights, and both of those guys only fight bums. Either move down to 154lb or move up to 168lb for a big payday.
 
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