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KIMBO'S FISTS BELONG IN BOXING RING

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June 2, 2008 -- AFTER watching Kimbo Slice in the main event of the nationally televised mixed martial arts card Saturday night at the Prudential Center in Newark, I came away with one over-riding thought: Too bad Kimbo isn't in boxing.
That's where he belongs instead of in the cage where he's been hyped as a mixed martial artist when he's really a brawler, who's better at trading punches than figuring out what to do with his back on the canvas.

The YouTube sensation, whose videos of beating up people in backyards have drawn 10 million unique hits, certainly has been marketed well by Gary Shaw's EliteXC. Kimbo put 8,033 people in the seats Saturday night and attracted millions who watched the first live MMA broadcast on CBS.

But despite defeating James Thompson of England on a third-round technical knockout, he was exposed as an MMA neophyte who would have little chance of defeating a credible heavyweight.
Thompson, who had lost six of his previous eight fights, kept the fight on the ground for the most part and had total control in the second round, landing several unanswered punches and elbows to Slice's head as the referee came close to stopping the bout.
"It was a tough fight," Slice said afterward. "[James] used his weight well. He kept me on the ground for a good little minute. He has a good ground-and-pound game. But I wasn't threatened by it. I kept letting the ref know 'I'm good.' I was just waiting for the right time to explode."


Truth is the fans were bored when Kimbo was on his back. They came to see him land a devastating punch like so many they'd seen on YouTube. It's why they roared when a right hook early in the third round split open Thompson's badly cauliflowered left ear.
"I was going to damage to that big ear," Slice said.
Blood rushed down Thompson's face as Slice landed a right uppercut, clearly dazing the Brit. The crowd cheered, and the referee quickly stopped the bout before any more damage could be done.
"I'm still a baby at the game," Slice said after only his third MMA fight. "I have a lot of room to grow. I know I won't be smoking as much."

Brett Rogers, who ran his heavyweight record to 7-0 with a first-round knockout on Saturday's undercard, called Slice's performance "garbage" at the post-fight press conference, causing a heated standoff between himself and Slice.
I wouldn't call it "garbage." It was mediocre and certainly not the best MMA has to offer. At age 34, Slice is being asked to learn all the disciplines of MMA, wrestling, jiu-jitsu, submission holds and striking without getting kicked in the face. It would have been easier if he stuck with boxing, where he could be portrayed as the next Mike Tyson. It would be an easier sell and more believable.
 
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yea Mayorga would make da fight fun N funny az fuck wit all da shit he talkz N i wouldnt mind seeing him fight Mosley cuz his style changed 4rm dat last fight wit Vargas he was more calm wit his punches but at da same time will try N knock ur head off
 
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June 2, 2008 -- AFTER watching Kimbo Slice in the main event of the nationally televised mixed martial arts card Saturday night at the Prudential Center in Newark, I came away with one over-riding thought: Too bad Kimbo isn't in boxing.
That's where he belongs instead of in the cage where he's been hyped as a mixed martial artist when he's really a brawler, who's better at trading punches than figuring out what to do with his back on the canvas.
No he shouldn't. He'd get eaten alive in a ring.
 
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lol Kimbo can barely go 1 round without getting tired. Hes a way overhyped fighter theres nothing else that can be said unless this last fight was just not the regular Kimbo
 
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What Golden Boy Wants Isn't What Boxing Needs


By Jake Donovan

If we are to believe Golden Boy Promotions, then not only is Miguel Cotto-Shane Mosley II the next must-see fight at welterweight, but also that many had Shane winning the first fight.

Yes, they actually said that.

There's certainly no shame in a promoter pining for one of his own fighters to score a lucrative title fight. Had Richard Schaefer limited his quotes on Setanta Sports to merely hoping for Mosley to once again face Cotto, nobody could really fault him. The future Hall of Famer hasn't fought since falling just short against the undefeated Puerto Rican last November. A cancelled PPV match against Zab Judah leaves him on the inactive roster for a few more months.

Simply put, Mosley needs to fight, since retirement isn't quite yet an option.

But there's a difference between a hard sell and flat out lying. Schaefer's latest comments regarding last November's bout are toeing the line, at best.

"[Last time] it was a very close fight."

Stop right there, and he perfectly describes the fight. Instead, he had to go there.

"Many of the ring observers felt that Shane won that fight."

Only if moral victories count for anything.

Many were surprised that Shane made the fight as close as it was, and that he finished strong to boot. Some – not many, but some – even had the fight a draw, while most – not the minority, but most – had Cotto winning a closer fight than was believed to be the case by at least two of the three judges.

What very few called for after the fight was a rematch. What most also seemed to agree on was, while the fight was closer than expected, it appeared that Shane fought as well as possibly could've been the case at this stage of his career. It was for that reason that talks of a rematch never surfaced by anyone beyond the Golden circle.

Not then, not now. Then again, the concept of what the people want (or don't want) has been considerably lost on Golden Boy Promotions this year.

There's no denying that the Los Angeles-based promotional outfit was far and away the sport's financial leader in 2007, serving as either lead or co-promoter in PPV events amassing more than 4.5 million buys and well over $200 million in revenue. More than half of that tally came from one event alone, Floyd Mayweather-Oscar de la Hoya I – as in, sequel to come, the first sign that 2008 was destined for a letdown following a strong ending to '07 and a blazing start early this year.

Golden Boy's need for a rematch is two-fold. Because part one ended in a split decision (blame Tom Kazmareck for that one) and that it wasn't the night of the jab, there is the belief that even an aging de la Hoya can improve upon that performance and be the first to defeat the mighty Money May.

The other reason is pure exploitation, really no different than any Hollywood blockbuster that exceeds its profit margin by a lot more than a little bit.

Aside from the May 5, 2007 event boring audiences to tears, what's most disserving about a rematch taking place in September is that it stands in the way of the one FIGHT atop everyone's must-see list in Mayweather-Cotto. Excusme: everyone except for Team Mayweather, and now Golden Boy Promotions.

"It sounds to me that [Mayweather and de la Hoya] both have their hands full, suggests Schaefer, "so I think it would be totally premature to discuss a Cotto-Mayweather fight."

In theory, he's correct. But considering that Cotto is scheduled to face Top 5 welterweight Antonio Margarito in July, wouldn't it be totally premature to discuss Cotto-Mosley II? Especially since you're the only one bringing up the possibility of a rematch?

Since we're on the subject of rematches, one that was actually in demand has instead fallen by the wayside.

Joel Casamayor, regarded by Ring magazine as their lightweight champion, had until close of business yesterday (June 3 – five business days) to decide whether or not he would accept a rematch with unified lightweight titlist Nate Campbell, as per the terms of a successful purse bid held last week in Puerto Rico. The Cuban was given five business days (a week to the rest of the world) from the point of the winning bid submission to either fight Campbell or forfeit his mandatory ranking.

This came after two months of stalling the Campbell camp, who had been calling for the fight really from the moment both fighters scored big upset wins over younger, undefeated lightweights in March. Campbell upended Juan Diaz two weeks before Casamayor recovered from one knockdown to score three of his own in dramatically stopping Michael Katsidis in one of the year's best fights.

The foundation for a rematch to their January 2003 battle began at the Casamayor-Katsidis post-fight presser, which Campbell attended but was eventually – and inexplicably – removed from the room for committing the heinous crime of calling out his old nemesis.

The rematch is a natural fit – Casamayor handed Campbell his first loss, and both are ranked atop the lightweight division today. Who claims the top spot depends on whom you ask.

Those who support Campbell also believed that Juan Diaz, who unified three of the four major alphabet titles before losing in March, had surpassed the inactive Casamayor.

Those who strictly honor lineage turn to the Cuban's win over Diego Corrales in October 2006, insisting that so long as the champ's still active (even though he's only fought twice since then), the title can only be won or lost in the ring, barring a permanent departure from the division or even the sport altogether.

No better way to settle the dispute than by having the two fight in the ring, right?

Nope.

Instead, Casamayor has decided to partake in what is rapidly becoming an exclusive Golden Boy lightweight tournament. The latest rumors have him fighting Juan Manuel Marquez in a PPV headliner that, quite frankly, has "postponement" written all over it. Prior to that, it was possibly accepting a fight against recent GBP-signed lightweight Juan Diaz in September.

What nobody believed would occur was the Campbell rematch – including Campbell himself. So much, that he accurately predicted how all of this would turn out two months ago. Way back then, he requested that Casamayor either accept or reject right then and there, so that both could move on with their careers.

Naturally, Team Casamayor wasn't in any hurry to oblige. Casamayor explored other options and held out for a purse bid that was honestly never going to produce a satisfactory outcome no matter how much the amount.

Golden Boy certainly didn't think much of the fight, in fact indirectly revealing how little Casamayor is worth to them in offering a bid that would've earned each fighter less than $300,000 for a rematch that will now most likely never happen.

Some have suggested that Campbell could always fight Jose Armando Santa Cruz while giving the rematch time to marinate and Casamayor the chance to make some coin late in his career.

Again, a situation where something sounds good in theory but is paper thin in reality. Both fighters are in their mid-30's and, even while coming off of career-resurrecting wins, are closer to the twilight then their respective primes.

Besides, why is momentum necessary for a "champion" to defend against his top contender? Call me crazy, but that should be the standard, and not the exception.

Say what you want about the alphabets, but the concept of mandatory challengers is a sound one when properly implemented. The problem is, such is rarely the case with the alphabets.

As made clear by their actions in recent months, it appears that such will also rarely be the case in the foreseeable future of Golden Boy Promotions.

Jake Donovan is a member of the Boxing Writers Association of America and the Tennessee Boxing Advisory Board. Comments/questions can be submitted to [email protected].


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woah, hope this is true. these would all be dope ass fights:

Boxingconfidential.com is reporting that a mid-October pay-per-view bout between Joel Casamayor and Juan Manuel Marquez is being planned by Golden Boy, which would then leave Juan Diaz to face Michael Katsidis in September in Houston, Texas.

With all this, Nate Campbell's new WBO mandatory would be Joan Guzman.

For all this talk of Campbell-Casamayor and just who is the real ruler of the lightweight division, I don't think anyone can argue that these are some pretty good fights that are taking place in what is a very fertile division.

With Manny Pacquiao entering the mix (and I do expect him to best WBC titlist David Diaz at the end of the month) things should get only more interesting.
 
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WED NIGHT FIGHTS TONIGHT ON ESPN


James Moore Ready To Rumble on June 4 on ESPN 2's Wednesday Night Fights

Undefeated junior middleweight James Moore, a native of County Wicklow, Ireland, who fights out of Queens, New York, weighed in at a slim and ready 154 pounds for his eight round bout against hard-punching Gabriel Rosado, 152 ½, of Philadelphia. The two will open the show on the June 4 installment of ESPN 2’s Wednesday Night Fights from the Aviator Sports Complex in Brooklyn, NY. Moore is 15-0 (10 KOS), while Rosado boasts a record of 9-2 (6 KOS)..

In the main event Yusaf Mack, 24-2-2 (15 KOS), of Philadelphia takes on Daniel Judah, 22-2-3 (10 KOS), of Brooklyn. At stake will be the vacant NABA light heavyweight title. The show is being promoted by Winky Wright Promotions, in association with Thomas Gallagher Productions. Wright was in attendance for the weigh-in and will also be at the show.

Mack and Judah weighed in first. Both came in on weight, but Judah and his chief cheerleader, a character named Crocodile who used to tell anyone within earshot how tough Mike Tyson was in Tyson’s waning days, began cursing loudly at Mack. There was a lot of profanity and name calling that began with the word mother. At one point Mack challenged Judah to a winner take all bout.

Moore and Rosado patiently waited to get on the scales, then politely shook hands and wished each other well. “You want hear any of that from me,” said Moore. Rosado couldn’t have agreed more.

What they did disagree on was the outcome of their own fight. Both realize how important a victory on ESPN 2 is to their careers, and both looked locked, loaded and ready to go.

“It’s his hometown, so I know everyone will be cheering for him and booing me,” said the 22-year-old Rosado. “But once I get in the ring, I get in my zone and nothing bothers me. I think the booing will just fuel me up.

“Moore has a basic style,” he continued. “It’s one, two, hook to the body. I’ll just use my faster feet and hands and take away whatever he has. This is an eight-rounder on ESPN. If I win, a lot of doors will open.”

“I really don’t know much about him, other than he is very strong, tough and aggressive,” said Moore. “This fight is as important to him as it is to me, so I expect him to be at his best. He will come out blazing, so I’ll have to be at my best. I’m in good shape, so I’m ready for anything.”

“We’re not taking this guy for granted but those two losses means he knows how to lose already,” said Harry Keitt, Moore’s trainer. “We’re going to introduce him to one more loss on Wednesday night.”

The Aviator Sports Complex is located on Flatbush Avenue, just south of the Belt Parkway, Exit 11S, Brooklyn, NY 11234. Doors will open at 7:00 P.M. and the first bout will be at 8:00 P.M.

For tickets call Gleason’s Gym at 718-797-2872. For tickets and sponsorship opportunities contact Tommy Gallagher at 917-774-3517.
 
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The Ghost returns to haunt Boardwalk Hall yet again - Pavlik v Lockett

By Mike Cassell - The Philadelphia Boxing Report - When I asked Philadelphia middleweight legend Bernard Hopkins what he thought of Kelly “The Ghost” Pavlik (33-0, 29 KOs), last year, his reply was simply, “don’t believe the hype”. Well, I’m sorry Bernard, I’m believing, buying, and getting in line for some more, when it comes to Kelly Pavlik. On Saturday night, Pavlik returns to the Jersey Shore to defend his WBC 160lb belt against one of Enzo Calzaghe’s best. No not his son, but another slugger from Wales named Gary Lockett (30-1, 21 KOs). Boardwalk Hall is the place where 20,000 screaming fans watched Pavlik climb from the canvas in a very “Rocky Balboa” like moment, to totally destroy Jermaine Taylor last year, the man who beat one of Philadelphia’s toughest, tough guys Bernard Hopkins twice. He met Taylor again in February of this year, and thoroughly outpointed him in a fight that showcased Pavlik’s amazing ring generalship..

Pavlik’s alias is the Ghost, which is very poignant, because none of the top middleweight names really want anything to do with him. Like a slew of Top Rank fighters, even as champion, he is very low key, and seems to fly under the radar. Top Rank has the best talent in the world, but little is being done to acknowledge that fact. It is one of the reasons Miguel Cotto will fight his stable mate Antonio Margarito this year. Nobody else with a pedigree wants anything to do with them. Kelly Pavlik may have to wait for guys like Winky Wright, Bernard Hopkins, Joe Calzaghe, Antonio Tarver and Roy Jones to make the big money. In the meantime, Pavlik is recognized as the best young middleweight in the world, and soon dodging him will not be an option. This fight with Lockett will be a warm up for a possible match with Joe Calzaghe. Lockett’s trainer Enzo Calzaghe may be using this fight to get a good look at what his son will have to face. If Joe Calzaghe wants to be considered one of the best, he will have to take a detour through Boardwalk Hall.

KEEP THE CLICKER CLOSE.

If you get really tired of watching Pavlik walk through Lockett, which is going to happen. Showtime television is going put on a pretty good show when Carlos Quintana (25-1, 19 KOs) will meet the man he upset earlier this year Paul Williams (33-1, 24 KOs). Williams was considered the unique freak, sporting an 82” reach and was being called by some, a guaranteed lock to do some great things. Quintana embarrassed Williams the last time out, beating him in a convincing decision. Quintana’s only loss was to Miguel Cotto in 2006. Cotto destroyed him with a knockout body punch. After Quintana clearly beat Williams, HBO’s Max Kellerman asked the question. If Quintana is this good, how great is Miguel Cotto? Answer; really freaking good Max.

You can also catch Sergio Mora (20-0-1, 5 KOs) of the former Contender series, take on the talented but lately injury plagued, Vernon Forrest. (40-2, 29 KOs) This will only be as good as Forrest makes it. If he runs around like he did against Ike Quartey, it could be a boring night. So “Punch FORREST, PUNCH”!
 
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Bernard Hopkins Willing To Fight Again If It's Against The "Right Opponent" - I.E Jon

04.06.08 - By James Slater: Golden Boy Promotion's Richard Schaefer has been talking quite frequently with Setanta Sports just recently. Aside from giving his opinion on what fighters like Miguel Cotto and Floyd Mayweather should do in the future, Schaefer also spoke about what the future may hold in store for 43-year-old legend Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins..

Though a lot of fight fans expected B-Hop to hang 'em up after losing to Joe Calzaghe last time out back in April, it seems Hopkins has not quite made up his mind yet. Wanting to go out a winner, naturally, the former middleweight and light-heavyweight king would consider one more fight, against what Schaefer refers to as the "right opponent."

Speaking with Setanta, the Golden Boy exec had the following to say.

"Bernard Hopkins had such a legendary career," Schaefer said. "For him to come back in the ring it would have to be another legendary night. Against a fighter who really adds to his legacy. He is [already] a Hall of Famer, no doubt about it. If the right fights comes along, Bernard indicated to me that he would be open to entertain another fight. When I say the right opponent that might be against a Roy Jones or a Tito Trinidad. It would really have to be something that adds to his legacy."

Would a Hopkins-Trinidad II or a Hopkins-Jones II sell? Sure. Would wins over either guy necessarily add to Hopkins' legacy? That much is debatable. Beating up Felix Trinidad for a second time would do little to add to B-Hop's reputation. Let's face it, Tito should be long retired by this stage in his life. Losing consecutively to Winky Wright and then Jones, the Puerto Rican would almost certainly suffer the same fate were he to go back in with Hopkins.

A return with the man who beat him way back in 1993 would be something slightly different for Bernard, however. Gaining revenge over a rival who has beaten you is always something worth achieving when you're the proud fighter from Philly that Hopkins is. Both seemingly pretty much evenly matched now at the veteran stage of their careers, a Hopkins-Jones return just might grab some fan attention. Not only that, but it would also offer Hopkins the chance to go out a winner while at the same time avenging a loss that has always bothered him.

What may actually prove tougher than what the prospective fight itself would be, though, is the getting of Roy Jones' signature on the contract. Getting back in with Hopkins, a fighter who has more left than he does at present, would likely be too big a risk for R.J.
 
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David Haye has turned down the offer of a fight with Matt Skelton and said he would "rather retire from boxing" than work with promoter Frank Warren again.

Warren offered Haye £600,000 to fight Commonwealth champion Skelton, 40, in the autumn, but cruiserweight king Haye called the offer "derisory".

"I'll make at least double Warren's figure in my next fight," said Haye.

"Skelton's the most boring heavyweight in the world. Thanks, but I'm not in boxing to hand out pensions."

London's Haye, 27, destroyed Wales' Enzo Maccarinelli in March to become the undisputed cruiserweight champion and plans to have two fights against top-10 ranked heavyweights before challenging IBF and WBO champion Wladimir Klitschko in 2009.

Haye, whose Hayemaker Promotions has signed a deal to stage his next four fights at London's O2 Arena and who wants to fight former undisputed heavyweight king Hasim Rahman in the autumn, also accused Warren of being "obsessed" with him.

"How much more charity are [Warren's promotional outfit] Sports Network willing to offer me?" said Haye, who has 21 wins from 22 fights.

"They already gift-wrapped Enzo Maccarinelli for me to obliterate in a couple of rounds and now they want to wheel out the company's granddad on his Stannah stair-lift for a beating.

"Frank Warren's obsessed with me. He should stop throwing me handouts and either donate the money to a more worthwhile charity or get his own house in order.

"We thank Frank Warren for sacrificing Maccarinelli, but we'd feel immense guilt if we took any more free money from Sports Network. I have a hard enough time sleeping at night as it is."

Haye is determined to press on with his plans to fight Klitschko and shake up the heavyweight division.

"Right now [heavyweight boxing] is a disgrace," Haye said last week at a news conference to announce a link-up between Hayemaker Promotions and Setanta Sports.

"I've met Wladimir Klitschko, who is universally recognised as the best heavyweight, and said to his face that there is no other fight out there that people are interested in.

"He half agreed but he has two mandatories in the way. I told him to get those guys out of the way.

"After that there is no reason why we can't get it on. He said I don't have a good ranking, but I told him not to worry about that. He said that if I'm ranked high enough there's no reason why it can't happen."
 
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I like Haye and think dude is exciting but the above is bullshit. Skelton is a legit heavyweight and would be a good indicator of what Haye would be capable of at heavy. He's right Wlad does have mandatories he has to get through so why not take a fight instead of waiting for Wlad? Make some noise in the ring ..
 
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I'll have to peep that out. The article I posted I just finished reading, really good. They are painting him so much the same way they did Boom Boom Mancini, it's crazy. Mainly about him not leaving Youngstown when everyone else did, hard working class guy, down to earth, "just being kelly," being the pride of youngstown, lifting the spirits of youngstown, etc. all that was the same things they said building up mancini.