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Guzman eats a whole lot of punches. His defensive style is similar to Floyd's but he doesn't have the shoulder roll down as well, so he ends up eating a lot of straight punches. Also, he doesn't seem to pick a lot of shots off with his right hand.

He did look a bit rusty.

How did the fight end up ? I missed the end.
he normally doesn't eat punches at all. That was the first time I've seen him get staggered like I said. He normally dodges everything coming his way.

The fact is he's fought like twice in almost three years or something like that, so I think he's rusty. I would really like to see him stay active and fight again in the next few months and least 2 more times after that in 09.
 
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Valuev/Holyfield was a fairly boring fight and I'd never want to see it again .. that being said Holyfield won clean and got dicked. Valuev's corner was telling him in fucking english at the beginning of the last round that he needed a ko and his promoter looked like he had a bad case of hemorrhoids before the decision was read.
 
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Yahoo Sports best 8 boxing fights of this year.




8. Rogers Mtagwa vs. Tomas Villa

Date: Nov. 7

Significance: The bout was the main event of the card on the night that the announcement was made that Telefutura was canceling the “Solo Boxeo” series.

***SPOILER***
Outcome: Mtagwa won by technical knockout at 1:20 of the 10th round.

The fight: It was a brawl from beginning to end as the featherweights went at it hard. Villa, who was on a 12-fight winning streak, seemed to take control of the fight when he knocked Mtagwa down near the end of the ninth round. Mtagwa barely had enough steam to return to his corner. When the fight resumed in the 10th, Villa raced at him, but Mtagwa fired back and decked him. It was the first of three dramatic knockdowns in the final round that forced referee Rocky Burke to stop the fight and give the win to Mtagwa.


7. Kendall Holt vs. Ricardo Torres II


Date: July 5

Significance: Rematch of controversial Sept. 1, 2007, bout in Colombia, which Torres won by TKO to capture the WBO light welterweight title.


***SPOILER***
Outcome: Holt won by knockout at 1:01 of the first round.


The fight: Torres knocked Holt down twice in the first 40 seconds of the bout, as both men were trading wild shots. But as the heavy-hitting Torres was moving in for the finish, Holt tagged him with an overhand right that stunningly ended the fight. It’s the shortest bout on the list, but it was thrilling from the first bell to the last.



6. Joel Casamayor vs. Michael Katsidis



Date: March 22

Significance: Bout was for the Ring Magazine lightweight belt and the interim WBO lightweight belt. It also was a fight designed to showcase the up-and-coming Katsidis.


***SPOILER***
Outcome: Casamayor won by 10th round technical knockout.

The fight: If Katsidis thought the wily veteran Casamayor was willingly accepting of his role as a steppingstone, he was disabused of that notion early. Casamayor decked him twice in the first and nearly finished the fight. Gradually, Katsidis fought his way back into the bout over the next several rounds and floored Casamayor in the sixth. But Casamayor wouldn’t go and roared back to stop Katsidis in the 10th, handing him his first loss in 24 fights.


5. Tomasz Adamek vs. Steve Cunningham


Date: Dec. 11

Significance: The bout matched the world’s top two cruiserweights fighting for the Ring Magazine and IBF belts.


***SPOILER***
Outcome: Adamek won a split decision. Judges had it 115-112 and 116-110 for Adamek and 114-112 for Cunningham.

The fight: There was quality action from the beginning until the end, but Adamek pulled it out on the basis of his harder blows. He knocked Cunningham down three times and clearly landed the more significant shots. Cunningham was busier and was hopeful his activity level would pull it out, but he’d created too big of a hole for himself.


4. Jorge Arce vs. Rafael Concepcion


Date: Sept. 15

Significance: The fight was for the interim WBA super flyweight title, a bout the veteran Arce desperately needed to win to stay in the hunt for a big fight against Vic Darchinyan down the line.

***SPOILER***
Outcome: Arce won by technical knockout at the end of the ninth when Concepcion could not answer the bell for the 10th.

The fight: It was a toe-to-toe slugfest, with each man landing telling blows in just about every round. Arce kept up a sustained body attack, though, and that proved to be the difference as it sapped the strength from Concepcion. Arce poured it on in the ninth, but not only would Concepcion not go down, he kept fighting back. But Arce was too strong and Concepcion was unable to continue after the ninth.


3. Antonio Margarito vs. Miguel Cotto


Date: July 26

Significance: Bout was for the WBA welterweight title and was a highly anticipated match between two of the game’s best offensive fighters.

Outcome: Margarito won by technical knockout in the 11th round when Cotto’s corner saved him as the Mexican was delivering a savage beating.

The fight: Cotto won the early rounds with his boxing, but it was telling that he was moving and circling as much as he was. Margarito stalked relentlessly and frequently forced Cotto to the ropes. Once there, they traded furiously, but Margarito was stronger and gave better than he got. He also showed an incredible chin. He began to bloody Cotto by the seventh and just pummeled him over the final two rounds.


2. Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez II


Date: March 15

Significance: The bout was for the WBC super featherweight title, but it was also a match of two of the four best pound-for-pound fighters in the world. It was a rematch of their brutal 2004 draw.

Outcome: Pacquiao won a split decision in a very close fight. Judges scored it 115-112 and 114-113 for Pacquiao and 115-112 for Marquez.

The fight: The action was manic from start to finish. Marquez seemed to hurt Pacquiao in the second round, but Pacquiao floored Marquez in the third. There were few slow spots, as they simply fired hard shots at each other all night. Marquez had a slight edge in punches landed (172 to 157) and had a fairly significant advantage in connect percentage (34 to 25), but Pacquiao’s blows seemed to do more damage and that was the difference in a very close match.





1. Israel Vazquez vs. Rafael Marquez III



Significance: The bout was the third in a series, with the 2007 bout earning the nod as the Yahoo! Sports Fight of the Year. They were competing for Marquez’s WBC super bantamweight title and the Ring Magazine championship.

Outcome: Vazquez won by split decision. Judges had it 114-111 and 113-112 for Vazquez and 114-111 for Marquez.

The fight: The pace was fast and the blows were hard and accurate. Vazquez was decked in the fourth and Marquez went down in the final seconds of the 12th. Vazquez seemed to be the stronger man and appeared to hurt Marquez more than Marquez hurt him. The crowd was heavily into it and roared at deafening levels throughout.

Why it’s the 2008 Yahoo! Sports Fight of the Year: Any one of the eight bouts could have won. But these are two of the top 10 pound-for-pound fighters in the world who went at each other with a ferocity rarely seen. There were many ebbs and flows in the fight and when it was over, no one was certain who’d won. The only thing certain was that everyone wanted to see a fourth fight between the two.
 
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JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ VS JUAN DIAZ CONFIRMED




Lightweight world champion Juan Manuel Marquez and former unified titleholder Juan Diaz signed Monday to meet in a much anticipated fight.

They'll meet for Marquez's title Feb. 28 in the main event of an HBO "World Championship Boxing" card at the Toyota Center in Houston, Diaz's hometown.

Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer has been working on the fight for weeks and finally closed with the fighters.

"The loser of this fight won't really be a loser because it's going to be such an unbelievable fight," Schaefer said of a bout that matches fighters who are regularly in crowd-pleasing matches. "And the winner has a tremendous opportunity to move into an even bigger fight, maybe to move up [in weight] to fight the winner of Ricky Hatton-Manny Pacquiao or even Floyd Mayweather if he decides to come back."

Marquez (49-4-1, 36 KOs), a former featherweight and junior lightweight titleholder, will be making the first defense of the championship he claimed when he knocked out Joel Casamayor in the 11th round on Sept. 13 in his first bout at 135 pounds.

"Juan Diaz is a talented young fighter with a bright future," Marquez said. "But this is still my time and I am not about to let Diaz take my belt away from me."

Diaz (34-1, 17 KOs), 25, lost his three alphabet belts to Nate Campbell in March but bounced back for a decision victory against Michael Katsidis at the Toyota Center on Sept. 6.

"Juan Manuel is one of the greats in the game and it's an honor to fight him, but I will be victorious," Diaz said.

Marquez, 35, had been reluctant to fight Diaz in Houston but Schaefer said, "We made it worth his while."

Schaefer also said that Texas officials agreed to use neutral judges for the bout.

"That is what convinced Marquez to go there," Schaefer said.

"This fight between Marquez and Diaz will shake the lightweight division to its core and truly determine the best 135-pounder in the world," said Golden Boy president Oscar De La Hoya. "As a fan, I can't wait to see this fight."

Schaefer said he is working to finalize the HBO co-feature between Top Rank-promoted featherweight titleholder Steven Luevano (36-1-1, 15 KOs) and Houston's Rocky Juarez (28-4, 20 KOs), the mandatory challenger.

Aside from an even matchup on paper, Luevano-Juarez has a built in storyline -- Juarez defeated him in the U.S. Olympic trials to secure a spot in the 2000 Sydney Games, where he went on to win a silver medal.

Schaefer said he had already made a deal with Juarez and has an agreement with Top Rank's Bob Arum.

"Now, it's up to Bob to convince [Luevano manager] Cameron [Dunkin] and Luevano to take it," Schaefer said. "I hope Bob can convince them."

If Luevano-Juarez is finalized, Schaefer said Texas officials had also agreed to use neutral judges for the bout.

Luevano has defended his title four times. Juarez, who would drop from junior lightweight to featherweight, rebounded from a loss to Marquez to stop former junior lightweight titleholder Jorge Barrios in the 11th round on the Diaz-Katsidis undercard.

Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for ESPN.com.
 
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Pacquiao vs. Cotto is Possible, Says Evangelista


By Mark Vester

After Manny Pacquiao stopped Oscar De La Hoya on December 6 in Las Vegas, many began to ponder how Pacquiao would do against some of the top welterweights in the division. One name the continues to come up is former two division champion Miguel Cotto. Cotto is considered a small welterweight and moved up from 140-pounds, where Pacquiao will now campaign. The two fighters are similiar in height and share the same reach at 67-inches. Both fighters are also under contract with the same promotional company, Top Rank.

Evangelista Cotto, trainer and uncle of Miguel, does not think the idea is absurd and doesn't rule it out as a possible fight for 2009. Pacquiao is scheduled to face Ricky Hatton on May 2. Should Pacquiao come off with a win, the "mega-fight" options are not exactly stacked. If Floyd Mayweather Jr. unretires, then Pacquiao has another mega-fight, but if Floyd decides to stay away from the sport - the options come down to a trilogy with Juan Manuel Marquez or someone along the lines of a Miguel Cotto.

Cotto has a fight scheduled against Michael Jennings for the vacant WBO welterweight title on February 21 in New York. He then has a June rematch with Antonio Margarito [unless plans change]. Evangelista plans to sit back with Miguel and see how things progress before they rule out the possibility of a Pacquiao encounter.

"I wouldn't doubt it [the fight happening]. Anything is possible. We are going to have to see what happens," Evangelista told ESTO.

Meanwhile Cotto is preparing for his fight with Jennings and plans to kick his camp into high gear next week.

"I am back to my usual work. I had a problem in my back, but that is something temporary that comes and goes. Everything is going good. The fight date is February 21 and there is sufficient time. We are working well to get there in perfect condition," Cotto said.
 
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I honestly don't see Cotto getting past Margarito in their rematch.


That would be the only way I could see him getting a shot at Pacquiao.

Cotto fought the perfect fight, his game plan was great, he boxed well, and he did as much as he could, physically.

I don't see the rematch going any different.

Cotto hit Margarito with everything but the stool, and Tony didn't even blink.
 
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^^^If Cotto could last all 12 rounds he could win. He was winning the fight up until the very end, I think it was tied, then got KO'd. He never really was a great 12 round fighter though, even against Mosley he faded late. His stamina needs improvement, although it might not matter much with the relentless pressure from margarito and body shots.

I agree though, I don't think he gets past Margarito. He's just too big and strong for cotto (margarito really is more of a 154 or 160 pound fighter).

But that doesn't necessarily mean the fight cant happen. I really feel like Pacman/mayweather will happen after pacman KO's ricky hatton. It has to. So, win or lose, he could still fight cotto 2010.
 
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WBA TO REVIEW VALUEV VS HOLYFIELD FIGHT

FightNews has learned that the WBA Championship Committee has ordered a panel of judges to review the contest between WBA heavyweight champion Nicolay Valuev and Evander Holyfield, for the WBA Heavyweight title, held December 20th in Switzerland. The source stated that the WBA is taking this action “Due to the respect for the opinion of the fans and the media.” Valuev (50-1, 34 KOs) retained his title with a majority decision over legendary ex-champion Holyfield (42-10-2, 27 KOs). Scores were 114-114, 115-114, and 116-112. After the decision was announced, Holyfield received applause from Swiss crowd, while Valuev was notably booed. The WBA Championship Committee will issue a decision in the following weeks.
 
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DE LA HOYA VS CHAVEZ JR?

According to several press reports Mexico and Puerto Rico, a bout between Oscar De La Hoya and unbeaten "Son of the Legend" Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (38-0-1, 29 KOs) is a possibility for May at the 100,000-deat Azteca Stadium in Mexico City. Oscar twice defeated Julio's father, Julio Cesar Chavez in 1996 and 1998, making a compelling story line if the bout were to happen.
 
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FightNews has learned that the WBA Championship Committee has ordered a panel of judges to review the contest between WBA heavyweight champion Nicolay Valuev and Evander Holyfield, for the WBA Heavyweight title, held December 20th in Switzerland. The source stated that the WBA is taking this action “Due to the respect for the opinion of the fans and the media.” Valuev (50-1, 34 KOs) retained his title with a majority decision over legendary ex-champion Holyfield (42-10-2, 27 KOs). Scores were 114-114, 115-114, and 116-112. After the decision was announced, Holyfield received applause from Swiss crowd, while Valuev was notably booed. The WBA Championship Committee will issue a decision in the following weeks.
If the decision is overturned, I wonder if I can beg Bodog to give me my money.

I put a bill on Evander at 6/1 and would really like for them to pay my my fucking $700 (or at least give me my $100 back).

I doubt casinos or online books do that though, considering the people who bet on Valuev already breaded out.


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Anyone here box for fun?

I have a heavy bag and speed bag. Tryin to get back into doing boxing workouts just for kicks and to get in shape. I did it like 4 years ago and it got me in great shape. Hella fun too.
 
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Anyone here box for fun?

I have a heavy bag and speed bag. Tryin to get back into doing boxing workouts just for kicks and to get in shape. I did it like 4 years ago and it got me in great shape. Hella fun too.
i waz boxing for like 2yearz but i fell off N started fuckin around in da streetz but when i was doin it waz fun az fuck N it taught me hella shit i really loved it N itz sumthing ive been wanting 2 get back into but i dnt know any of any gymz around here in da 510
 
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Wladimir Klitschko vs. Chris Arreola is Close For May 16


By Brent Matteo Alderson

Henry Ramirez, Chris Arreola’s trainer, informed BoxingScene.com over the weekend that a fight with Wladimir Klitschko is in the final stages of negotiations, “It’s a done deal. Behind the scenes everything has been agreed upon, we just need to cross the T’s and dot the I’s before it goes public, but we’re excited about it. I got the final word today and it looks like May 16 is the date.”

The WBO/IBF Heavyweight title fight between Wladimir Klitschko (52-3) and Chris Arreola (26-0) is a highly anticipated matchup between two good punchers, but a number of observers have expressed considerable doubts about Arreola’s chances against the former 1996 Olympic Gold Medalist.

Nigel Collins, the Editor and Chief of Ring Magazine stated “In terms of his prospects of winning the title, it doesn’t bold well for him that he was almost stopped in the first round and just stood there and took so many punches from a fighter like Travis Walker,” and another astute member of the boxing fraternity opined that “Arreola needs more seasoning, if they go after him now, they would be cashing out.”

Ramirez doesn’t agree with that assessment, “You don’t turn down a title fight, you just don’t. And do you think Chris will have a better chance against Klitschko in two years? Chris is motivated for this fight and he’s going to weigh between 235 to 240 and we’re coming to win it. Chris is going after Wladimir, he’s not going to stink the place out like Rahman. You know what Alderson, I won’t say who but someone from Top Rank told me that if Chris wins the title that there is going to be line of guys waiting to suck his d--k and he told me he would be the first one in line and you can print that!”